<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd"><channel><title><![CDATA[The Third Order]]></title><description><![CDATA[Just a human asking AI how businesses & industries might evolve — speculating on the downstream consequences of AI. <br/><br/><a href="https://thethirdorder.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast">thethirdorder.substack.com</a>]]></description><link>https://thethirdorder.substack.com/podcast</link><generator>Substack</generator><lastBuildDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2026 02:46:47 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/8393922.rss" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><author><![CDATA[Cathy Zhao]]></author><copyright><![CDATA[Cathy Zhao]]></copyright><language><![CDATA[en]]></language><webMaster><![CDATA[thethirdorder@substack.com]]></webMaster><itunes:new-feed-url>https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/8393922.rss</itunes:new-feed-url><itunes:author>Cathy Zhao</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Human asking AI how it will reshape industries &amp; businesses; together making speculations on the downstream consequences - who wins, who loses, and what breaks.</itunes:subtitle><itunes:type>episodic</itunes:type><itunes:owner><itunes:name>Cathy Zhao</itunes:name><itunes:email>thethirdorder@substack.com</itunes:email></itunes:owner><itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit><itunes:category text="Technology"/><itunes:category text="Business"/><itunes:image href="https://substackcdn.com/feed/podcast/8393922/0179694280a6cdbd695fee3bda8c3128.jpg"/><item><title><![CDATA[Neither the Model Nor the Wrapper. Where AI Value Actually Accrues.]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>73 companies launched the same PDF chat tool in one week. None of them will survive. But neither will most foundation model providers. So where does value in AI actually end up?  </p><p>In this episode: why the “models vs. wrappers” debate is the wrong frame, what the Intel–Microsoft and AWS–SaaS transitions tell us about AI’s future, and why the real moat isn’t the model or the app—it’s the proprietary data and workflow integration that compound with every customer interaction.  </p><p>Read the full post: <a target="_blank" href="https://substack.com/@thethirdorder">https://substack.com/@thethirdorder</a></p> <br/><br/>This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit <a href="https://thethirdorder.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_1">thethirdorder.substack.com</a>]]></description><link>https://thethirdorder.substack.com/p/neither-the-model-nor-the-wrapper</link><guid isPermaLink="false">substack:post:192487355</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Cathy Zhao]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2026 08:22:31 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/192487355/7ead537e07174f69f0aa9f4ebe3d7926.mp3" length="16448190" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Cathy Zhao</itunes:author><itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>1371</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://substackcdn.com/feed/podcast/8393922/post/192487355/0179694280a6cdbd695fee3bda8c3128.jpg"/></item><item><title><![CDATA[AI Makes Experience More Valuable — and Harder to Get]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>AI is making experienced professionals more valuable than ever—and simultaneously destroying the path that produces them.  </p><p>In this episode: the codified vs. tacit knowledge divide reshaping every career, why the “winners” of AI are more fragile than they look, the mentorship paradox that punishes knowledge transfer, why degrees no longer differentiate, and the institutional memory crisis coming for every organisation that cut its junior pipeline.  </p><p>Read the full post: <a target="_blank" href="https://substack.com/@thethirdorder">https://substack.com/@thethirdorder</a></p> <br/><br/>This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit <a href="https://thethirdorder.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_1">thethirdorder.substack.com</a>]]></description><link>https://thethirdorder.substack.com/p/ai-makes-experience-more-valuable</link><guid isPermaLink="false">substack:post:192195560</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Cathy Zhao]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2026 11:42:20 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/192195560/1253df91637e4772a91960ea75a07212.mp3" length="16144751" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Cathy Zhao</itunes:author><itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>1345</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://substackcdn.com/feed/podcast/8393922/post/192195560/0179694280a6cdbd695fee3bda8c3128.jpg"/></item><item><title><![CDATA[The Deskilling Trap: When AI Makes Doctors Worse at Being Doctors]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>AI diagnostics just became the #1 patient safety concern in healthcare—not because AI is bad at diagnosis, but because it’s good enough to make humans stop practising the skills the system still needs.  </p><p>In this episode: the ECRI report that put AI at the top of its safety list, the colonoscopy study showing doctors getting worse after relying on AI, why ‘never-skilling’ is more dangerous than deskilling, and the paradox at the heart of every industry deploying AI—better average outcomes, worse tail-risk fragility.  </p><p>Read the full post: <a target="_blank" href="https://substack.com/@thethirdorder">https://substack.com/@thethirdorder</a></p><p></p><p> </p> <br/><br/>This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit <a href="https://thethirdorder.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_1">thethirdorder.substack.com</a>]]></description><link>https://thethirdorder.substack.com/p/the-deskilling-trap-when-ai-makes</link><guid isPermaLink="false">substack:post:192080182</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Cathy Zhao]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2026 10:53:37 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/192080182/54cff07277c44de16d40ff4a00bd9fbb.mp3" length="11927648" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Cathy Zhao</itunes:author><itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>994</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://substackcdn.com/feed/podcast/8393922/post/192080182/0179694280a6cdbd695fee3bda8c3128.jpg"/></item><item><title><![CDATA[The Billable Hour Was Never About Time. AI Just Proved It.]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>The billable hour has survived every technology wave for fifty years. AI might be the one that finally kills it—not because it makes work faster, but because it exposes what the billable hour actually was: a hedge against uncertainty, not a measure of value.</p><p>In this episode: why 70% of lawyers now use AI but most firms have no plan for what it means for pricing, the efficiency paradox that punishes productive lawyers, the client power shift that’s coming faster than firms expect, and why the real product of a law firm was never time — it was certainty.  </p><p>Read the full post: <a target="_blank" href="https://substack.com/@thethirdorder">https://substack.com/@thethirdorder</a></p> <br/><br/>This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit <a href="https://thethirdorder.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_1">thethirdorder.substack.com</a>]]></description><link>https://thethirdorder.substack.com/p/the-billable-hour-was-never-about</link><guid isPermaLink="false">substack:post:191959020</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Cathy Zhao]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2026 09:08:32 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/191959020/9a0a04850e61f3ea39118146a7eb21f7.mp3" length="13397819" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Cathy Zhao</itunes:author><itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>1116</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://substackcdn.com/feed/podcast/8393922/post/191959020/0179694280a6cdbd695fee3bda8c3128.jpg"/></item><item><title><![CDATA[The Seed Corn Problem: AI Is Eating the Bottom of the Career Ladder]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>AI isn't just eliminating entry-level jobs — it's destroying the apprenticeship pipeline through which every industry produces its future senior talent.</p><p>In this episode: Jensen Huang's 100:1 agent-to-human vision at GTC, the Stanford study showing a 20% employment decline for junior developers, why the manufacturing skilled-trades crisis is about to repeat in white-collar industries, and the question nobody's answering — if AI replaces the work that trains the next generation, where do senior leaders come from?</p><p>Read the full post: <a target="_blank" href="https://substack.com/@thethirdorder">https://substack.com/@thethirdorder</a></p> <br/><br/>This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit <a href="https://thethirdorder.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_1">thethirdorder.substack.com</a>]]></description><link>https://thethirdorder.substack.com/p/the-seed-corn-problem-ai-is-eating</link><guid isPermaLink="false">substack:post:191853771</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Cathy Zhao]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2026 12:17:46 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/191853771/76dabd5731a4497834f6fca2e2c871b5.mp3" length="14539788" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Cathy Zhao</itunes:author><itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>1212</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://substackcdn.com/feed/podcast/8393922/post/191853771/0179694280a6cdbd695fee3bda8c3128.jpg"/></item></channel></rss>