<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd"><channel><title><![CDATA[Talking Back with Andrew Fagan]]></title><description><![CDATA[Smart thinking for a complex and damaged world. <br/><br/><a href="https://andrewfagan.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast">andrewfagan.substack.com</a>]]></description><link>https://andrewfagan.substack.com/podcast</link><generator>Substack</generator><lastBuildDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2026 12:22:50 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/5957795.rss" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><author><![CDATA[Andrew Fagan]]></author><copyright><![CDATA[Andrew Fagan]]></copyright><language><![CDATA[en]]></language><webMaster><![CDATA[andrewfagan@substack.com]]></webMaster><itunes:new-feed-url>https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/5957795.rss</itunes:new-feed-url><itunes:author>Andrew Fagan</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Testing and challenging the outer limits of conventional thinking.</itunes:subtitle><itunes:type>episodic</itunes:type><itunes:owner><itunes:name>Andrew Fagan</itunes:name><itunes:email>andrewfagan@substack.com</itunes:email></itunes:owner><itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit><itunes:category text="Society &amp; Culture"><itunes:category text="Philosophy"/></itunes:category><itunes:category text="Government"/><itunes:image href="https://substackcdn.com/feed/podcast/5957795/bcfeea0b1e965675ae5a3ae8803b44e2.jpg"/><item><title><![CDATA[Israel, Genocide and the Human Rights Project]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>How should progressives, liberals and human rights defenders respond to the actions of the current Israeli government in Gaza, the West Bank, Lebanon and the wider region?</p><p>What has become of the human rights project when so many of its defenders do not call out gross human rights violations and alleged genocide?</p> <br/><br/>Get full access to Andrew’s Substack at <a href="https://andrewfagan.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">andrewfagan.substack.com/subscribe</a>]]></description><link>https://andrewfagan.substack.com/p/israel-genocide-and-the-human-rights</link><guid isPermaLink="false">substack:post:194505589</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Talking Back with Andrew Fagan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2026 12:37:55 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/194505589/fa9c0f0b402c2fbb26bb1789163d2063.mp3" length="18262458" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Talking Back with Andrew Fagan</itunes:author><itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>1522</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://substackcdn.com/feed/podcast/5957795/post/194505589/bcfeea0b1e965675ae5a3ae8803b44e2.jpg"/></item><item><title><![CDATA[The Zombification of the Middle-Class]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Are you middle-class, or do you aspire to become middle-class? If so, you really should listen to this!</p><p>For my novel on this topic, <em>Scaling the Ladder, </em>check out this <a target="_blank" href="https://www.amazon.co.uk/Scaling-Ladder-Upwards-ANDREW-FAGAN/dp/B0GFDT4T4J/ref=sr_1_1?crid=11O1N1H8K28QK&#38;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.hH44MH2knhPpreYUSi35nA.YckmxDR5hBx81kY6ehtSRCIAz6XXWYghvsPWC3pXVg0&#38;dib_tag=se&#38;keywords=andrew+fagan+scaling+the+ladder&#38;qid=1775822423&#38;sprefix=%2Caps%2C460&#38;sr=8-1">link</a>. </p><p></p> <br/><br/>Get full access to Andrew’s Substack at <a href="https://andrewfagan.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">andrewfagan.substack.com/subscribe</a>]]></description><link>https://andrewfagan.substack.com/p/the-zombification-of-the-middle-class</link><guid isPermaLink="false">substack:post:193782375</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Talking Back with Andrew Fagan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2026 12:30:07 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/193782375/7be3bf972e03c34b800cadf87af3f8e8.mp3" length="20927261" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Talking Back with Andrew Fagan</itunes:author><itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>1744</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://substackcdn.com/feed/podcast/5957795/post/193782375/4771c5e8f2a6e05da212aff054c35b02.jpg"/></item><item><title><![CDATA[Will the Culture Wars Be the End of All of Us?]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p> <br/><br/>Get full access to Andrew’s Substack at <a href="https://andrewfagan.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">andrewfagan.substack.com/subscribe</a>]]></description><link>https://andrewfagan.substack.com/p/will-the-culture-wars-be-the-end</link><guid isPermaLink="false">substack:post:189879231</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Talking Back with Andrew Fagan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2026 14:51:16 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/189879231/d11cabc61b788ca64c4e699697b0be7b.mp3" length="48134828" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Talking Back with Andrew Fagan</itunes:author><itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>3008</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://substackcdn.com/feed/podcast/5957795/post/189879231/bcfeea0b1e965675ae5a3ae8803b44e2.jpg"/></item><item><title><![CDATA[Not Fit To Clean My Car: Part Three]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>What are the costs of poor leadership and bad management in the workplace?</p><p>How have league tables distorted education?</p><p>What can we begin to do to rod ourselves of poor leadership and bad management?</p> <br/><br/>Get full access to Andrew’s Substack at <a href="https://andrewfagan.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">andrewfagan.substack.com/subscribe</a>]]></description><link>https://andrewfagan.substack.com/p/not-fit-to-clean-my-car-part-three</link><guid isPermaLink="false">substack:post:187279227</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Talking Back with Andrew Fagan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2026 07:50:02 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/187279227/b8e928bc027d9b5d69b8e7636b90c085.mp3" length="15314591" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Talking Back with Andrew Fagan</itunes:author><itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>1276</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://substackcdn.com/feed/podcast/5957795/post/187279227/bcfeea0b1e965675ae5a3ae8803b44e2.jpg"/></item><item><title><![CDATA[Not Fit To Clean My Car: Part Two]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Do the great and the good still exist? </p><p>What do the Epstein Files reveal about leadership in our world? </p><p>What do the wealthy and the powerful actually believe in?</p><p></p> <br/><br/>Get full access to Andrew’s Substack at <a href="https://andrewfagan.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">andrewfagan.substack.com/subscribe</a>]]></description><link>https://andrewfagan.substack.com/p/not-fit-to-clean-my-car-part-two</link><guid isPermaLink="false">substack:post:186965671</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Talking Back with Andrew Fagan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2026 13:53:13 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/186965671/cc915eba046091da212d78fb3b540eed.mp3" length="13468884" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Talking Back with Andrew Fagan</itunes:author><itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>1122</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://substackcdn.com/feed/podcast/5957795/post/186965671/bcfeea0b1e965675ae5a3ae8803b44e2.jpg"/></item><item><title><![CDATA[Not Fit to Clean My Car – Reflections on Leadership and Management ]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p> <br/><br/>Get full access to Andrew’s Substack at <a href="https://andrewfagan.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">andrewfagan.substack.com/subscribe</a>]]></description><link>https://andrewfagan.substack.com/p/not-fit-to-clean-my-car-reflections</link><guid isPermaLink="false">substack:post:186178835</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Talking Back with Andrew Fagan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2026 11:10:15 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/186178835/07804341a93056dff53f09d7bb7b1769.mp3" length="12092440" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Talking Back with Andrew Fagan</itunes:author><itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>1008</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://substackcdn.com/feed/podcast/5957795/post/186178835/bcfeea0b1e965675ae5a3ae8803b44e2.jpg"/></item><item><title><![CDATA[Against the Gentrification of Space and Mind]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p> <br/><br/>Get full access to Andrew’s Substack at <a href="https://andrewfagan.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">andrewfagan.substack.com/subscribe</a>]]></description><link>https://andrewfagan.substack.com/p/against-the-gentrification-of-space</link><guid isPermaLink="false">substack:post:184198578</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Talking Back with Andrew Fagan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2026 12:54:58 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/184198578/ff4e8ed832d58d47495dc603020028ad.mp3" length="24506141" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Talking Back with Andrew Fagan</itunes:author><itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>2042</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://substackcdn.com/feed/podcast/5957795/post/184198578/bcfeea0b1e965675ae5a3ae8803b44e2.jpg"/></item><item><title><![CDATA[Announcing my new novel: Scaling the Ladder]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>This episode introduces you to the publication of my first novel, <em>Scaling the Ladder. </em>It includes my reading two sample chapters from my novel. Hope you enjoy it!</p><p>You can purchase Scaling the Ladder <a target="_blank" href="https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0GF8MJSLZ/ref=sr_1_1?crid=SIFQIUO70SG8&#38;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.HKkAcjsSxQ9BzQGcNinacg.clykyXvfA3IfbOvUGvUbOpuZO1Vq_p9VkQIo_9YlWEg&#38;dib_tag=se&#38;keywords=andrew+fagan+scaling+the+ladder&#38;qid=1767784916&#38;sprefix=%2Caps%2C100&#38;sr=8-1">here</a>: </p><p>Here's a link to my latest journal article, published in <em>Constellations. </em><a target="_blank" href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/1467-8675.70028"><em>https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/1467-8675.70028</em></a></p><p></p> <br/><br/>Get full access to Andrew’s Substack at <a href="https://andrewfagan.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">andrewfagan.substack.com/subscribe</a>]]></description><link>https://andrewfagan.substack.com/p/announcing-my-new-novel-scaling-the</link><guid isPermaLink="false">substack:post:183775662</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Talking Back with Andrew Fagan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2026 09:28:48 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/183775662/660a81b2937d06892bc6278392a7a861.mp3" length="14251303" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Talking Back with Andrew Fagan</itunes:author><itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>1188</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://substackcdn.com/feed/podcast/5957795/post/183775662/bcfeea0b1e965675ae5a3ae8803b44e2.jpg"/></item><item><title><![CDATA[Have Progressives Run Out of Road?]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>What is the alternative to MAGA and authoritarian nationalism? </p><p>What remains of liberal progressivism today? </p><p>Where does the arc of history bend and is it towards justice?</p><p>How did it all go so wrong?</p><p>Some further reading:</p><p>Andrew Fagan, ‘Taking Class Seriously’, <em>Human Rights Quarterly</em>, Vol. 45, No. 2, (2023) pp. 260-282.</p><p>Andrew Fagan, ‘The Gentrification of Human Rights’, <em>Human Rights Quarterly</em>, Vol. 41, No. 2, (2019), 283-308. </p><p>Nancy Fraser, <em>How Our System is Devouring Democracy, Care, and the Planet and What We Can Do About It.</em> (2022)</p> <br/><br/>Get full access to Andrew’s Substack at <a href="https://andrewfagan.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">andrewfagan.substack.com/subscribe</a>]]></description><link>https://andrewfagan.substack.com/p/the-death-of-progressivism</link><guid isPermaLink="false">substack:post:174230864</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Talking Back with Andrew Fagan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2025 07:02:00 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/174230864/1e50226f1fc869f89d0b204bb5999da3.mp3" length="13464182" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Talking Back with Andrew Fagan</itunes:author><itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>1122</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://substackcdn.com/feed/podcast/5957795/post/174230864/ad1738a8374ef5faa891cf5d590258b2.jpg"/></item><item><title><![CDATA[Who is the True Champion of the British White Working Class?]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Who really leads the Far-right in the UK. Nigel Farage or Tommy Robinson? </p><p>Why are so many British white working class people apparently increasingly drawn towards a rising form of authoritarian nationalism?</p><p>Who is to blame for the state we’re in?</p> <br/><br/>Get full access to Andrew’s Substack at <a href="https://andrewfagan.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">andrewfagan.substack.com/subscribe</a>]]></description><link>https://andrewfagan.substack.com/p/who-is-the-true-champion-of-the-british</link><guid isPermaLink="false">substack:post:173768102</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Talking Back with Andrew Fagan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2025 07:01:00 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/173768102/d0218553a94c38d7787ad38719e9df4e.mp3" length="14833103" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Talking Back with Andrew Fagan</itunes:author><itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>1236</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://substackcdn.com/feed/podcast/5957795/post/173768102/10cab57c8e264ae9eab5eae35dff5b3b.jpg"/></item><item><title><![CDATA[Are international law and human rights dead and buried?]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Do international law and human rights continue to have a point in a world this broken? </p><p>This week’s episode addresses this crucial question to coincide with the annual gathering of UN General Assembly, in New York.</p><p>For a clear and concise intro to human rights see Andrew Clapham’s Human Rights: a Very Short Introduction (OUP, 2015).</p><p>For my analysis of the gentrification of human rights see my 2019 article published by Human Rights Quarterly. Available <a target="_blank" href="https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/The-Gentrification-of-Human-Rights-Fagan/7bde5268ac7b0395d22c5d56ea5d855812e685fe">here</a>. </p> <br/><br/>Get full access to Andrew’s Substack at <a href="https://andrewfagan.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">andrewfagan.substack.com/subscribe</a>]]></description><link>https://andrewfagan.substack.com/p/are-international-law-and-human-rights</link><guid isPermaLink="false">substack:post:172661100</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Talking Back with Andrew Fagan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2025 07:01:00 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/172661100/59d01bcfb2a051269dd5eeb0521e68e8.mp3" length="16087920" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Talking Back with Andrew Fagan</itunes:author><itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>1341</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://substackcdn.com/feed/podcast/5957795/post/172661100/fe0815bd178d4fa81463792f4940951a.jpg"/></item><item><title><![CDATA[Meet the brains behind US authoritarian nationalism]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Hazony’s book is shaping the MAGA movement as it becomes increasingly ideological. Is it any good? Should we take it seriously? Is the pen truly and still mightier than the sword? </p><p>Does our tribal politics make us all stupid?</p><p>In this week’s episode I engage with this important work.  </p><p></p><p></p> <br/><br/>Get full access to Andrew’s Substack at <a href="https://andrewfagan.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">andrewfagan.substack.com/subscribe</a>]]></description><link>https://andrewfagan.substack.com/p/meet-the-brains-behind-us-authoritarian</link><guid isPermaLink="false">substack:post:172361338</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Talking Back with Andrew Fagan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2025 07:05:00 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/172361338/88806dcaec5da71a2d362a14aaba49f9.mp3" length="23460720" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Talking Back with Andrew Fagan</itunes:author><itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>1955</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://substackcdn.com/feed/podcast/5957795/post/172361338/b77e53d611ec92c15c602bbc5312c4e3.jpg"/></item><item><title><![CDATA[Engaging white straight males in the culture wars and authoritarian populism. Why bother? Part two.]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>For a more academic literature on social class and injustice see my 'Taking Social Class Seriously', published by <em>Human Rights Quarterly. </em>Available <a target="_blank" href="https://muse.jhu.edu/pub/1/article/892618/pdf">here.</a></p><p>You might also want to check out a policy paper I wrote and was published by the Fabian Society. Available <a target="_blank" href="https://fabians.org.uk/publication/fair-and-free/">here</a>.</p><p>For a highly informative site which records extreme poverty as a human rights violation check out <a target="_blank" href="https://www.ohchr.org/en/special-procedures/sr-poverty">this </a>UN page.</p><p>One of the best academic critiques of identity politics' neglect of social class is Walter Benn Michaels' <em>The Trouble With Diversity: How we Learned to Love Identity and Ignore Inequality. </em>(2016).</p><p>Still a relevant and insightful study of how a neglect of class increases electoral support for the Right in the US see Arlie Russell Hochshild <em>Strangers in their own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right </em>(2016)</p> <br/><br/>Get full access to Andrew’s Substack at <a href="https://andrewfagan.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">andrewfagan.substack.com/subscribe</a>]]></description><link>https://andrewfagan.substack.com/p/engaging-white-straight-males-in-115</link><guid isPermaLink="false">substack:post:171547499</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Talking Back with Andrew Fagan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2025 08:01:00 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/171547499/f906f505826c3cd059ef388d206b5477.mp3" length="17104502" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Talking Back with Andrew Fagan</itunes:author><itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>1425</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://substackcdn.com/feed/podcast/5957795/post/171547499/bcfeea0b1e965675ae5a3ae8803b44e2.jpg"/></item><item><title><![CDATA[Engaging white straight males in the culture wars and authoritarian populism. Why bother? Part one]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>This is the first part of a two-parter in which I engage with a key group in the culture wars and authoritarian populism. Are white, straight male as a group generally and necessarily conservative and lost to any genuine form of radical political project?</p> <br/><br/>Get full access to Andrew’s Substack at <a href="https://andrewfagan.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">andrewfagan.substack.com/subscribe</a>]]></description><link>https://andrewfagan.substack.com/p/engaging-white-straight-males-in</link><guid isPermaLink="false">substack:post:171372086</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Talking Back with Andrew Fagan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2025 06:03:47 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/171372086/f5f62e43cc27c44fc4740cdc2ee47db8.mp3" length="14497377" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Talking Back with Andrew Fagan</itunes:author><itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>1208</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://substackcdn.com/feed/podcast/5957795/post/171372086/bb988d604d8b73cb993040a390d41b5c.jpg"/></item></channel></rss>