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In Chinese philosophy, for the Taoist, the universe is fundamentally unknowable and yet, holding the paradox, we can come to know it better and glimpse the Way in experiences Japanese traditions call satori. 

In more European oriented philosophy, Socrates is famous for the idea that 'all we can know is that we do not know' though his life is itself a way through the unknown.

The reason this paradox is at the heart of our search for meaning is because within parameters of the unknown, there are unknowns which are desirable and those which are not. Here, we find ways to orient towards more desirable unknowns for our living planet, and in so doing, ride the paradox of trying to know what is unknowable, or what is only knowable if it occurs.

Hosted by Andrea Hiott.
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Here, we find ways to orient towards a healthier overall window.</itunes:subtitle><itunes:type>episodic</itunes:type><itunes:owner><itunes:name>Desirable Unknown</itunes:name><itunes:email>movement@ecologicalmotoring.com</itunes:email></itunes:owner><itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit><itunes:category text="Education"><itunes:category text="Self-Improvement"/></itunes:category><itunes:category text="Society &amp; Culture"><itunes:category text="Philosophy"/></itunes:category><itunes:image href="https://substackcdn.com/feed/podcast/4029777/2924f9023593ed3defbfbc4703754650.jpg"/><item><title><![CDATA[Doughnut Economics with Andrew Fanning]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Economics for Everyone: Exploring the Doughnut Model with Andrew Fanning</p><p>Andrea hosts Andrew Fanning so as to delve into the transformative principles of doughnut economics. Andrew discusses the impactful work of Kate Raworth and their work together at the Doughnut Economics Action Lab (DEAL), focusing on the need to shift from traditional 20th-century economic models to a more holistic approach that prioritizes sustainability and social equity. This episode explores why economics matters, how the doughnut model redefines economic goals, and the importance of visualizing data to inspire change. Andrew also shares his personal journey into ecological economics and the critical research he leads in reshaping our understanding of global economic systems.</p><p>#ecological #economics #donut #doughnuteconomics #kateraworth #andrewfanning #andreahiott</p><p>00:00 Introduction and Excitement</p><p>00:21 Understanding the Doughnut Model</p><p>00:57 21st Century Economics vs. Traditional Models</p><p>02:31 Circular Flow Model and Its Limitations</p><p>06:10 Ecological Economics and Herman Daly's Influence</p><p>22:36 The Doughnut's Visual Framework</p><p>31:06 Challenges and Future Directions</p><p>36:46 Diving into Ecological Economics</p><p>37:11 Understanding the Difference: Ecological vs. Environmental Economics</p><p>14:16 Personal Journey: From Economics to Ecological Economics</p><p>41:03 Cultural Influences and Early Life Experiences</p><p>45:31 Academic Pursuits and Discovering Ecological Economics</p><p>50:12 The Impact of Ecological Economics</p><p>50:45 Career Path and Contributions to Ecological Economics</p><p>01:01:46 The Role of Visualization in Ecological Economics</p><p>01:10:55 Final Thoughts and Reflections</p><p>The 7 principles of doughnut economics: https://pg-online.leeds.ac.uk/blogs/what-is-doughnut-economics/</p><p>Compensation for Atmospheric Appropriation with Jason Hickel:</p><p>https://www.nature.com/articles/s41893-023-01130-8</p><p>Kate Raworth: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kate_Raworth</p><p>The Doughnut Economics Book: https://www.amazon.com/Doughnut-Economics-Seven-21st-Century-Economist/dp/1603586741</p><p>Good Life for All: https://goodlife.leeds.ac.uk/national-snapshots/countries/</p><p>Tipping Point Podcast: https://tippingpoint-podcast.com/</p><p>Doughnut Economic Action Lab (DEAL): https://doughnuteconomics.org/</p><p>Eleanor Ostrom: https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/economic-sciences/2009/ostrom/facts/</p><p>Rachel Carson: https://www.womenshistory.org/education-resources/biographies/rachel-carson</p><p>Herman Daly: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herman_Daly</p><p>Economics of Coming Spaceship Earth paper: http://arachnid.biosci.utexas.edu/courses/THOC/Readings/Boulding_SpaceshipEarth.pdf</p> <br/><br/>This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit <a href="https://desirableunknown.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_1">desirableunknown.substack.com</a>]]></description><link>https://desirableunknown.substack.com/p/doughnut-economics-with-andrew-fanning</link><guid isPermaLink="false">substack:post:156539894</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Ecological Motoring Initiative]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 05 Feb 2025 17:01:52 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/156539894/fa81accb48f3c6eefd98e61b95d5ac04.mp3" length="55801094" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Ecological Motoring Initiative</itunes:author><itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>4650</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://substackcdn.com/feed/podcast/4029777/post/156539894/2924f9023593ed3defbfbc4703754650.jpg"/></item></channel></rss>