Heterodorx

Episode 199: Miracle Patient

Nina Paley — Wed, 15 Jul 2026 20:00:28 GMT

What’s it like to survive Stage 4 abdominal cancer? The Dorx interviewed Alasdair over a year ago, shortly after he learned he was an immunotherapy “miracle patient.” But we never released that episode, partly because Nina cried about her own problems. Here Nina and Alasdair attempt to re-create April 2025 (not May, as Nina incorrectly asserts) and cover most of the same topics: emergency surgery, chemotherapy, heart failure, asking Dr Google, the woman across the infusion table, tuning out of genderworld, and robot litter boxes. All with less drama and more propriety!

But is that a good thing? Should Nina release the spiked episode, which she has since listened to, despite Alasdair’s protestations? Tell us in the comments!

Links:

When Sons Become Daughters by Angus Fox: https://quillette.com/tag/when-sons-become-daughters/

Alasdair interviewed by Benjamin Boyce:

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Episode 198: Alasdair Gunn Fills Cori's Royal Sandals

Nina Paley — Mon, 29 Jun 2026 18:35:25 GMT

With Cori on indefinite hiatus, gender critical statistics aggregator, writer, designer, miracle cancer survivor, and friend o’ the pod’ Alasdair Gunn humbly offers to serve in his absence. We discuss why we don’t want to discuss gender. According to our recording platform’s AI assistant, we also talk about:

* 00:00 - Introduction to the podcast’s themes and hosts

* 02:00 - Discussion on gender podcasts and societal fixation

* 05:46 - Reflections on aging, identity, and the concept of “crone”

* 08:10 - The social and political landscape of pride events and gender activism

* 12:49 - Society’s treatment of political figures and societal change

* 16:37 - Observations on youth, right-wing cringe, and political identity

* 20:18 - Personal anecdotes about pets and animal behavior

* 25:22 - Critique of education and societal control

* 30:45 - Personal health crises, autoimmune diseases, and medical treatment

* 40:03 - Reflections on raising children and social conditioning

* 48:36 - The societal response to activism and political protests

* 52:37 - The influence of societal narratives and the importance of saying no

* 60:12 - The history of communism, anarchism, and the personal stories of relatives

* 66:00 - Advances in medicine and personal health management

* 70:39 - The reality of living after life-threatening health crises

* 76:10 - The importance of respecting host, John Corey, and future guest planning

* 82:52 - Insights into Rene Girard’s work on scapegoating and societal myths

We miss you John Corey! But with replacements like Alasdair Gunn and Riverside’s Large Language Model, we continue on.

Resources:

* The Anatomy of Revolution by Crane Brinton

* Emma Goldman: Living My Life

* Rene Girard - The Scapegoat

* Nigel Farage | Twitter

* Oswald Mosley

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Episode 196: The Squeaky Wheel Gets The Avocado Oil

Nina Paley — Fri, 05 Jun 2026 20:59:37 GMT

Heterodorx is on indefinite hiatus while one of us goes through some Life Stuff He Can’t Talk About. But here’s a recording from early April, released today, June 5. So much has already changed! For example, Nina’s favorite nutrition shake, Soylent, is no longer available. SAD! We also discuss vegans, vegetarians, having to eat meat when you don’t want it, a canceled (and then uncanceled) YouTuber, Spirit Island, house-moving helicopters and other Homo wner content, and greatly exaggerating reports of our death.

Links:

NinaPaley cancels the Vagina Museum: https://4w.pub/nina-paley-cancels-the-vagina-museum/

Spirit Island Archive: https://www.youtube.com/post/UgkxDPRFpq-C3zd9_DhKA-j5IWCpnABOcuYy

FBoy Island: https://tv.apple.com/us/show/fboy-island/umc.cmc.6pvj6bxzk3vtisbuz0c8lg19f

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Episode 195: Natalists, Outliers, and MAID for Podcasters with Meghan Daum

Nina Paley — Fri, 24 Apr 2026 18:19:30 GMT

Writer, podcaster, teacher, thinker, public discourser, and friend of the pod’ Megan Daum joins the Dorx to discuss 80’s music trivia. After which we talk about natalism: pro, anti, soft anti-, demi-, and a-. How wrong was Paul Ehrlich? Is the Demographic Transition Theory true? How has our understanding of (over)population changed? Are people better off having kids? Who will wipe our butts when we get old? What wallpaper goes with suicide? Were we really that clever and interesting in our 20’s, or just cute? And most importantly, WHAT IF??

Links:

The Unspeakeasy podcast: https://www.theunspeakablepodcast.com/

Unspeakeasy Retreats & Workshops: https://theunspeakeasy.com/

J. Geils Band: Centerfold

Peter and the Wolf

Unspekeasy Lionel Shriver interview: https://www.theunspeakablepodcast.com/p/lionel-shrivers-most-problematic

Nina’s abandoned late 1990’s/early 2000 antinatalist documentary Thank You For Not Breeding:

Selfish, Shallow, and Self-Absorbed: https://www.meghandaum.com/selfish-shallow-self-absorbed

Paul Ehrlich: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-026-00939-5

Demographic Transition Theory: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11618374/

Virginia Abernethy - Population Politics: https://www.routledge.com/Population-Politics-The-Choices-That-Shape-Our-Future/Abernethy-Hardin/p/book/9780765806031

Deluded and Immature by Nina (contains all the things I wanted to say on this podcast but didn’t): https://ninapaley.com/2022/10/04/deluded-and-immature/

The Baby Boon by Elinor Burkett: https://archive.org/details/babyboonhowfamil0000burk

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Episode 194: Veganism and Apostates

Nina Paley — Sun, 19 Apr 2026 18:44:44 GMT

After talking about health as we always do because we’re old, we pivot to diet — specifically veganism. Cori, who has never cared about animal rights, gamely steel-mans an argument in favor, while Nina, whose bleeding heart has caused anemia and possibly brittle bones, fearfully argues against. Along the way we cover tribes, rituals, purity, CRISPR, evolution, Lierre Keith, lactose tolerance, lactation intolerance, the Bible, abattoirs, eggs, nuts, Jordan Peterson, cults, The Liberation Pledge, and how Nina accidentally killed a bat when she was 17.

Since recording this on Passover 2026 (release delay 85% Cori’s fault) Nina worked through more of her apostasy, first writing The Law of Conservation of Evil and then Vegan Appreciation Day. She’s done now.

Links:

The Vegetarian Myth by Lierre Keith: https://www.lierrekeith.com/book-ex_the-vegetarian-myth.php

Soylent (Creamy Chocolate is the only good flavor): https://www.amazon.com/Soylent-Chocolate-Protein-Replacement-Bottles/dp/B08H6FB43L?th=1

Nina’s Fecebook solicitation: https://www.facebook.com/nina.paley/posts/pfbid0EcMpKSUVyGm6356iEw8VeJXzRJhSP5X3YyVZkDKrUAVrMrYC4oUR3fMriQ8vA2xtl

Nina’s poll on Spinster: https://spinster.xyz/@ninapaley/posts/B4tQFS5G2srXYSm1Lc

Nina’s poll on Twitter:

Jordan Peterson’s Lion Diet: https://liondiet.com/the-diet-updated-march-2018/

The Liberation Pledge: https://veganfta.com/blog/2022/11/16/what-is-the-liberation-pledge-and-how-hard-is-it/

Vegan TERFFles (out of stock) (password: vegan): https://store.ninapaley.com/product/vegan-terffles/

Vegan Appreciation Day: https://ninapaley.com/2026/04/09/vegan-appreciation-day/

The Law of Conservation of Evil: https://ninapaley.com/2026/04/04/the-law-of-conservation-of-evil/

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Episode 193: Ex X; X, Why?

Nina Paley — Wed, 01 Apr 2026 15:41:32 GMT

After obligatory discussion of the weather and other old people stuff, Cori lulls Nina to sleep with tales of AI: training software developers to use Claude Code, how one set of commands yielded 20 results, and other top-tier content. Then he relates his entire social media history from college onwards, culminating in his decision to leave X 2 weeks ago. Nina recalls her incarcerations in Fecebook Jail but can’t remember what funny intro she was gonna use this week. Plus: ramen shivs, Twitter fights, the algorithm and the app, titration, vegan Terffles, and more!

Links:

XX-XY Athletic Wear: https://www.xx-xyathletics.com/

Sora AI generated cat videos:

Sora: https://sora.chatgpt.com/

Grok Imagine: https://grok.com/imagine

Anheiser-Busch Superbowl ad:

Lierre Keith’s The Vegetarian Myth: https://www.amazon.com/Vegetarian-Myth-Food-Justice-Sustainability/dp/1604860804

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Episode 192: Bicycle Dreams

Nina Paley — Fri, 27 Mar 2026 21:00:34 GMT

Recording shortly before Cori deletes his X account, the Dorx discuss chometz, pre-Pesach purging, and locking breakfast cereal in the basement. Nina feels “more Zionist than usual” and Cori criticizes Israel. Then Nina nerds out on recumbent bike history and describes the DREAM BIKE she is finally designing, dropping names like Craig Calfee, Gardner Martin, Fast Freddy Markham, Tom Teesdale, and AD Carson, while only hinting at frame-builder she’s collaborating with, Davis Carver. Cori wakes up from his nap and recalls searching “Death Before Detransition” on BlueSky, finding an unhinged rant by a “Silence-of-the-Lambs-level crazy” trans-identified male and likely future mass shooter (audio included). Plus: the Troon-to-Jew Pipeline, front- and back-end geometries, connecting supply chains with a jackshaft, Joscha Bach, Detransition Awareness Day, LiDAR, and Cori’s Substack. Jesus!

Links:

Cori’s Substack: https://substack.com/@corinnacohn

Nina’s dream bike blog page: https://ninapaley.com/jackalope-in-progress/

Gone to Soldiers by Marge Piercy: https://margepiercy.com/gone-to-soldiers

Champaign in the Bible: https://www.biblegateway.com/resources/encyclopedia-of-the-bible/Champaign

The Economist: “At Last, A Just War” by Yair Lapid: https://www.economist.com/by-invitation/2026/03/01/at-last-a-just-war

Michigan synagogue attack: https://bridgemi.com/michigan-government/michigan-synagogue-attack-police-respond-to-shots-fired-truck-crash/

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Episode 191: Iran So Far Away

Nina Paley — Wed, 18 Mar 2026 19:17:06 GMT

Nina is a Certified Food Handler, Cori is a Certified Ball Handler, and “bureaucracy just hasn’t been done right yet”. We helplessly learn about learned helplessness and why our episodes are so few and far between. Plus anomia (anomic aphasia), lesbian comedians, Robby Hoffman, rumination, and Iran. Why is the Islamic regime firing on its neighbors? Is this the beginning of World War 3? Is Nina emerging from cancellation? Why is Cori boycotting, divesting from and sanctioning NYC? If you can make it through all the distracting cat antics, you might hear some answers!

Links:

Iran So Far Away:

Food Handler Certification: https://aaafoodhandler.com/illinois/food-handler-card/

Disabling Impairments cards: https://store.ninapaley.com/product/disabling-impairments/

Discount card sets: https://store.ninapaley.com/product/playing-cards-double-decker/

Local non-woke bike shop: https://bakersbikes.com/

Robby Hoffman “No Backsies!”

Janet McNamera: Not Smart Enough:

Our Zartosht Soltani interview:

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Episode 190: The Thaw

Nina Paley — Fri, 06 Mar 2026 16:47:44 GMT

Nina gets invited to an animation festival for the first time in years, turning her world upside-down. Then we discuss the Great Mail-Order Terffles Experiment, which by the time of this writing (2 weeks after our recording, because Cori’s depression delays his editing even more than usual) has successfully concluded. Next we talk about the mounting list of trans mass shooters, and the desire of wikipedia editors to suppress it. Also guns, Reddit, aspirational truthiness, New York City, bike helmets, memory loss, and of course CATS and HEALTH ISSUES. Czech it out!

Links:

Wikipedia editors try to suppress a list of Trans Mass Shooters: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2026_March_3#Category:Mass_shootings_by_transgender_individuals

I’ve Got A Little List:

Trans Rhode Island shooter: https://www.aol.com/articles/rhode-island-shooter-revealed-divorced-145701661.html

Paranoid American interviews Nina about AI:

Terffles: https://store.ninapaley.com/product/terffles/ (password: yum)

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Episode 189: (Potential) Panic at the Farmer's Market!

Nina Paley — Wed, 25 Feb 2026 01:19:55 GMT

Nina weighs the pros and cons of offering her delicious chocolate Terffles at the local Farmer’s Market, while Cori is motivated by lulz. Is it a chocolate thing, or a gender thing? Which wins: love, humor, or domination? Can Cori work on the Sabbath? How can 2 things be true?? Plus: social climate change, Tranndies, just another trans male mass murderer, sex-denying journalists, cats, and the weather.

We recorded this over 10 days ago, and since then Nina launched and completed this brief Terffles-by-Mail experiment: https://store.ninapaley.com/product/terffles/(Link password: “yum”)That batch are literally in the mail now, making their way to their USA destinations.

Links:

Istanbul (Not Constantinople):

Too Darn Hot:

Art Coop “No TERFs” sign: https://www.news-gazette.com/opinion/columns/jim-dey-terf-battle-in-urbana-averted/article_cdf7ecd4-2e0d-5759-84b7-fbbe653de2a5.html

Men’s Pocky: https://candycritic.org/pockyformen.htm

Carole Hooven calls out journalists lying about murderer’s sex:

Pusslims: https://x.com/_Islamicat

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Episode 188: The Trouble with Terffles

Nina Paley — Sat, 14 Feb 2026 01:20:20 GMT

After Nina “sings” the theme song to The Electric Company and Cori talks about his cats, we discuss last week’s news: gender-critical lawyer Glenna Goldis’s hiring by the FTC post-firing by NY State Attorney General Letitia James, and detransitioner Fox Varian’s $2M lawsuit victory. Living up to our promise of quality content, we look up things on the Internet while recording. Then it’s time to talk Terffles: artisanal chocolates handmade (not handmaiden!) by a canceled TERF witch but inclusive of everyone. Will the Urbana Farmer’s Market accept Nina’s delicious Amaretto Amarena Amazeballs? Plus: “The age of Free Software is ending,” DEI parasites, PaleGray Labs, team names for a cat Cute-Off, Cory’s real name, and more!

Links:

Glenna Goldis hired by FTC: https://www.dailywire.com/news/trump-admin-hires-glenna-goldis-lawyer-fired-by-letitia-james

Fox Varian $2M lawsuit: https://www.economist.com/united-states/2026/02/06/lawsuits-over-transgender-medicine-for-minors-could-be-huge

Benjamin Ryan, journalist: http://www.benryan.net/

ASPS Statement: https://www.plasticsurgery.org/documents/health-policy/positions/2026-gender-surgery-children-adolescents.pdf

AMA statement: https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2026-02-06/american-medical-association-says-gender-surgeries-for-minors-should-wait

The Banality of Stupid (2017): https://ninapaley.com/2017/03/23/the-banality-of-stupid/

Hannah Ahrendt: https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/tag/banality-of-evil

Informed Dissent podcast: https://informeddissentpodcast.substack.com/

The Lunduke Journal: https://lunduke.com/

Rhapsody in Blue

Virtuoso tap dancing:

Disabling Impairments cards: https://store.ninapaley.com/product/disabling-impairments/

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Episode 187: Women Have Too Much Baggage

Nina Paley — Thu, 05 Feb 2026 21:19:26 GMT

Enjoy a full hour of Cori and Nina at their best: arguing about attribution, pretending the male co-host is the “designated feminist,” and snarking about various current events. Cori asserts women, old people, and the disabled shouldn’t be on airplanes, and Nina, who is all 3 of those things, does her part. We read aloud an inane comment on our last episode that calls us “a genocide-supporting podcast.” Plus: Jo Freeman, Peggy McIntosh, Max Blumenthal, “self-hating Jews”, ICE vs Border Patrol, Jo Freeman, civil disobedience, buffoonery, policing, a ladyfinger in the face of the pope, Jo Freeman, misogyny, misandry, and Jo Freeman.

Finally, a Listener Challenge: write a one-paragraph Anglican sermon about misogyny. Please leave yours in the comments!

Links:

Jo Freeman: https://www.jofreeman.com/

Peggy McIntosh: https://www.wcwonline.org/Active-Researchers/peggy-mcintosh-phd

Kim K’s Komment: https://heterodorx.substack.com/p/episode-186-whats-happening-in-iran/comment/206704453

The GrayZone: https://thegrayzone.com/

Max Blumenthal: https://thegrayzone.com/author/max-blumenthal/

Alex Pretti: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Alex_Pretti

Renee Good: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Ren%C3%A9e_Good

cat on trampoline video (is it AI or not?):

Civil Disboedience: https://blogs.law.columbia.edu/uprising1313/files/2017/10/Civil-Disobedience-by-Henry-David-Thoreau.pdf

Malcolm X: https://www.malcolmx.com/biography/

Dame Sarah Mulally: https://www.archbishopofcanterbury.org/about/sarah-mullally

Ladyfingers: https://baranbakery.com/savoiardi-biscuits-homemade-lady-fingers/

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Episode 186: What's Happening In Iran? With Zartosht Soltani

Nina Paley — Wed, 28 Jan 2026 20:16:39 GMT

The Dorx try to understand recent events in the Area Formerly Known As Persia by interrogating animator-cartoonist-painter-comic book creator Zartosht Soltani, who grew up there before moving to New York City. What’s causing the uprisings? What outcomes are possible? What’s it like being jailed in Iran? Zartosht has personal experience with the latter, which he’s channeled into his new comic book DEEV. He also observes that America is becoming more like his former country in alarming ways. Plus: useful vs useless idiots, American vs Iranian communists, “only 3,000,” extremist families, nepotism, learning English in bars, and liberation through painting.

Links:

Zartosht Soltani: https://www.zartoshtsoltani.com/

Deev comic: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FKQV4438

Useful Idiots: https://www.reddit.com/r/agedlikemilk/comments/1q3lnko/iranian_students_celebrate_the_victory_of_the/

Rita Panahi savages Whoopee Goldberg

Jo Freeman essay on trashing: https://www.jofreeman.com/joreen/trashing.htm

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Episode 185: GO BILLS!

Nina Paley — Wed, 24 Dec 2025 18:14:31 GMT

Hanukkah is over, but we still have plenty to say about candles, miracles, and commemorating atrocities. We offer our respective reviews of 2025, and Cori talks more about his joylessness, depression, and identifying with “victim groups.” Nina reports progress on her SSDI Blue Book playing card illustrations, including a transgender Jack (“LadyJack”) and Queen Prostate Cancer. Is Down Syndrome progressive? Does Cori “feel Jewish” yet? What should we watch on TV? Do we have any listeners left? Whatever the question, the answer is increasingly: GO BILLS!

Links:

True Blue Lou sung by Annette Hanshaw:

Bondi Beach Hanukkah massacre: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cqjg22rey0lo

Chuck Schumer: Go Bills!

Rob Reiner murder: https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/celebrities/2025/12/23/rob-reiner-wife-michele-death-certificates-memorial-service/87899544007/

The 12 Days of Christmas: https://www.almanac.com/what-are-12-days-christmas

SF Hillel arson: https://sfdistrictattorney.org/man-charged-with-arson-in-connection-to-fire-at-san-francisco-hillel/

Jewish men attacked on NYC subway

Cori’s pic on X in front of a giant menorah:

Nina’s 2025 Year In review: https://ninapaley.com/2025/12/19/my-2025-year-in-review/

Nina’s SSDI Blue Book illustrations - Queens: https://spinster.xyz/@ninapaley/posts/B1W5HfREevhkTfdyt6

& Jacks: https://spinster.xyz/@ninapaley/posts/B1HQIvEmaTyLQwrNJI

Pluribus: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt22202452/

House of Lies: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1797404/?ref_=fn_t_1

Severance: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11280740/?ref_=fn_t_1

Naked Gun: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3402138/?ref_=fn_t_1

PHQ9: https://share.google/PO5J3OAtPMRCLGKVJ

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Episode 184: Alcophobia, or “Oh God Not This Again”

Nina Paley — Fri, 12 Dec 2025 17:00:42 GMT

After learning about Nina’s inability to whistle and Cori’s interest in Sharia Enthusiast meetups, the Dorx return to the tired old subjects of gender and online drama. That stupid blue dress comes up again, while a cancellation mob forms on “our side”, at least as bad as the old cancellation mobs on “their side” that got “us” here in the first place. Will it ever end? (No.) How do you say ‘b******t’ in French? (‘Connerie,’ according to Google Translate.) What is the #1 most common stupid mistake young people make? (Tell us in the comments!) Plus: incinerated balls, personality-disordered cliques, shopping at Aldi, the virtue of self-awareness, and George & Ira Gershwin. Fascinatin’!

Links:

Nina juggles Cori’s phantom balls: https://x.com/ayeshadequeiroz/status/1995916753050988751

Phil Illy at the Genspect conference: https://shannonthrace.substack.com/p/genspect-and-agpgate

Nina’s Mimi & Eunice comic strip repost: https://x.com/ninapaley/status/1995499736955261412

Sex is Real, People are Weird: https://store.ninapaley.com/product/terf-tranny-alliance-pin/

Cori calls out callouts: https://x.com/heterodorx/status/1995729240877080773

Our Brianna Wu episodes: https://heterodorx.com/podcast/episodes-134-135-is-brianna-wu-based/

The Art Coop (potential site of TERF-n-TrannyCon): https://www.news-gazette.com/opinion/columns/jim-dey-terf-battle-in-urbana-averted/article_cdf7ecd4-2e0d-5759-84b7-fbbe653de2a5.html

The music of George & Ira Gershwin

Fascinating Rhythm

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Episode 183: Podcasting from Purgatory

Nina Paley — Fri, 28 Nov 2025 18:31:10 GMT

Cori is acutely depressed, so we discuss his inner world, psychic bodies, primal wounds, and spiritual maladies. We also answer some Listener Questions: is it OK to be tired of TERFing? What are our favorite cat memories? What is Cori’s latest forecast for the future? It’s a far cry from our energetic gender days, but we’re still surviving, which is sometimes the best we can hope for.

Links:

Cori interviews Nina when she was depressed: https://heterodorx.substack.com/p/episode-164-ninas-brain-breaks-itself

Tish Hyman at Minnesota prison protest: https://x.com/listen2tish/status/1990310036703478079

Wieiner vs Hyman:

Erin Reed, LOLcow: https://kiwifarms.st/threads/erin-reed-anthony-reed-ii-erininthemorn-erininthemorning-erininthenight-_supernovasky_-beholderseye-realitybias-anonymousrabbit.112364/page-888#post-22970899

Sita Sings the Blues: https://sitasingstheblues.com/watch.html

Seder Masochism: https://sedermasochism.com/download/

Apocalypse Animated: https://apocalypseanimated.com/

Nina’s SSDI Blue Book illustrations-in-progress: https://ninapaley.com/2025/11/28/ssdi-blue-book-cards-in-progress/

This Land Is Mine:

Nina’s store: https://store.ninapaley.com/

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Episode 182: Hayek's Road To Serfdom

Nina Paley — Thu, 13 Nov 2025 14:16:54 GMT

You begged us to stop talking about gender, and start talking about economics. So by popular demand we just made up, the Dorx discuss F.A. Hayek’s The Road To Serfdom for an hour. Collectivism! Individualism! Planned economies! Marx! Socialism, Communism, and Capitalism! Power! Competition! If that doesn’t thrill you or make you fall asleep, we also mention fleas and liquid crystals.

Although we answer your not-actually-existent pleas to talk economics, we failed to answer your Listener Questions. Next time, my little turtledoves! Feel free to leave more in the comments.

Links:

The Road to Serfdom by F.A. Hayek: https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.46585

Condensed Reader’s Digest version: https://cdn.mises.org/Road%20to%20serfdom.pdf

F.A. Hayek: https://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/bios/Hayek.html

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Episode 181: College Republicans and Chloe Cole

Nina Paley — Mon, 27 Oct 2025 01:51:14 GMT

Cori enters the ranks of the Truly Old by discussing his fascinating medical problems, including depression, vasovagal response, blood tests, and his severely impaired endocrine system. Nina attends a Chloe Cole talk hosted by ISU College Republicans and hears chants for free hormones outside and Christian prayers inside. Is finding Jesus really the solution? Is Cori depressed, or supernatural? Will our podcasts be retarded forever? Plus: Low-Dose Naltrexone, Nina’s body temperature, Christian Nationalism, and KITTENS!

Links:

Chloe Cole ISU talk:

https://www.videtteonline.com/news/campus/illinois-state-university-college-republicans-host-anti-trans-activist-chloe-cole/article_a2391090-fb6d-4ee2-ad01-97f942a062ed.html

Ben Appel — Cis White Gay: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Cis-White-Gay/Ben-Appel/9781637586280

Young Republicans leaked chat: https://www.politico.com/news/2025/10/14/private-chat-among-young-gop-club-members-00592146

Our interview with Katie Herzog: https://heterodorx.substack.com/p/episode-176-katie-herzog-drinks-her

Herzog’s Drink Your Way Sober: https://www.drinkyourwaysober.com/

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Episode 180: Fresh Convert vs Tired Agnostic

Nina Paley — Sun, 19 Oct 2025 16:42:14 GMT

Recorded during the High Holy Days, after catching up on sensitivity, innocence, hard surfaces, insect bites, and fasting, Cori attempts to school Nina in who is and is not “really Jewish,” obnoxious as only a fresh convert can be. So we get into a long-winded discussion about faith, culture, foundational literature, the Torah, contradictions, G*d’s face vs backside, the Ramayana, and more. Finally we circle back to Genspect’s 2025 conference and how tired Nina is of manipulating people through empathy. Was Nina’s father a Jew? Are atheists really shallow? Why is Cori suddenly trying to be “Good”? And to whom is he referring when he mentions animal control and getting arrested? That’s at least one mystery that won’t be revealed in this vaguecast.

Links:

Greta Thunburg forced to sit on hard surfaces: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/oct/04/greta-thunberg-israel-gaza-sweden

Book of Job: https://www.amazon.com/Job-Translation-Edward-L-Greenstein/dp/0300162340

Many Ramayanas: https://www.jstor.org/stable/jj.5973087

Dennis Praeger debate clip: https://x.com/WyattCatarina/status/1974632909777838560

Cori’s pinned tweet: https://x.com/heterodorx/status/1947895012253175984

On the subject of the Ramayana, here’s Nina’s feature film based on it: https://sitasingstheblues.com/watch.html

…and her second film about Exodus and the Torah: https://sedermasochism.com/download/

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Episode 179: Cancel Culture Club

Nina Paley — Wed, 08 Oct 2025 15:03:00 GMT

In this weeks-late release (blame Mr. Flounce) we ask: Is it ever a good idea to fire someone for saying crazy, wrong, and/or threatening things in public? Nina would like to always say no, but even she admits that in some occupations, such as medical care, stating you want certain ethnic groups to die is grounds for dismissal. But most canceling is motivated by a lust for revenge, not safety, despite protestations of “accountability” and “consequences”. We also discuss a very bad spider bite, distracting kittens, taglines, Groypers, Jimmy Kimmel, misinformation, moral outrage, Schadenfreude, gay vs homosexual vs queer, and Hey Zeus!

Links:

Little Britain “I’m a Laydee!”: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2qahpm

Did Jimmy Kimmel fire his announcer for not getting a covid vaccine? https://www.facebook.com/terrencekwilliams/posts/jimmy-kimmel-fired-dicky-barrett-after-almost-20-years-of-announcing-the-show-be/1403479137804487/

Nick Fuentes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Fuentes

Log Cabin Republicans: https://logcabin.org/

GOProud: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GOProud

Cori calls Nina’s cats gay on X: https://x.com/heterodorx/status/1960836018359427549

Nina’s wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nina_Paley

Stop Antisemitism X account: https://x.com/StopAntisemites

Accused Rapist Shot by Alleged Victim: https://fox59.com/news/accused-rapist-shot-by-alleged-victim-and-arrested-an-hour-later-in-speedway/

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Episode 178: Charlie Kirk and 9-11

Nina Paley — Tue, 23 Sep 2025 15:33:20 GMT

The Dorx record the day after the assassination of Charlie Kirk, which happens to be the 24th anniversary of the World Trade Center attacks. We reminisce about 9-11-01: where we were, how we felt, how we’ve changed since. Then we discuss the current climate of political violence, comparing the reaction to Kirk’s death to that of George Floyd’s. Then Cori edits out 18 minutes about people denouncing him online, because it’s Rosh Hashanah and why carry resentments into the new year? So suddenly you’ll hear both of us talking about kittens.

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Episode 177: Hey Kids! Don't Shoot Schools OR Drugs

Nina Paley — Wed, 03 Sep 2025 21:51:24 GMT

The Dorx discuss Robin/Robert Westman, the psychotic Minneapolis Catholic school shooter. Was he left-wing or right-wing? Does trans ideology cause psychosis, or is it just coincidental? What is the difference between racism and white nationalism? Do women owe the world reproductive labor? What might happen to Cori as the political wrecking-ball pendulum keeps swinging rightward? Was the Unicorn Ranch llamas or alpacas? Plus: Cori insists trannies are a class but TERFs are not, because he doesn’t get intersectionality. Why didn’t we just talk about kittens?

Links:

Robert/Robin Westman: https://www.thetimes.com/us/news-today/article/robert-westman-trans-name-change-manifesto-mary-family-bfhps6kkf

Westman’s Manifesto transcription: https://x.com/FrancisAaronUK/status/1961085415445660009

Westman journal excerpt about racism, Native Americans: https://x.com/FrancisAaronUK/status/1961149304053125196

Matt Walsh says women owe children to the world: https://x.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1951280351784907005

Christopher Rufo: “we should now put to rest the libertarian delusion…” https://x.com/realchrisrufo/status/1960769904258469938

Free Press: Robin Westman and the Rise of American Nihilism: https://www.thefp.com/p/robin-westman-and-the-rise-of-american-nihilism-minneapolis-shooting

Unicorn Ranch: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenacious_Unicorn_Ranch

Agents of HAG & Compliance Comix: https://store.ninapaley.com/product/compliance-comix/

Protect Trans Kids weapons tshirt: https://www.amazon.com/Protect-Trans-Knife-Pride-T-Shirt/dp/B0BZBHJ4TQ

confirmation bias: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

Andrea James website: https://www.transgendermap.com/

Knife-wielding Scottish lass

WDI Convention: https://womensdeclarationusa.com/wdi-usa-2025-national-convention/

The Naked Gun: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3402138/

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Episode 176: Katie Herzog Drinks Her Way Sober

Nina Paley — Fri, 22 Aug 2025 02:50:43 GMT

You may recognize Katie Herzog’s journalism and podcasting, but did you also know she’s soon-to-be famous for her alcoholism? For years she hid it from the world and her exceptionally gullible wife, but now she tells all in a new book which even longtime twelve-stepper Nina finds persuasive. Can you quit booze while happily retaining your character defects? What is Naltrexone? Does everyone get a “buzz” from drinking? Does Nina get pleasure from anything? Plus: amusing recollections of drunken episodes and blackouts, getting older and more isolated, extinguishing desires, AA vs. Al-Anon, Kokomo, Kokomo, why you should never apologize, and tips on how to hide both drinking and smoking from your spouse!

Links:

Drink Your Way Sober by Katie Herzog: https://www.drinkyourwaysober.com/

The Sinclair Method: https://www.sinclairmethod.org/what-is-the-sinclair-method-2/

Syn-Anon documentary: https://www.hbomax.com/shows/synanon-fix/a27b5e0a-68eb-48e2-baa6-2b0f01d5b8be

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Episode 175: Reality Bites

Nina Paley — Thu, 14 Aug 2025 19:21:33 GMT

Cori and Nina chit-chat about things that have nothing to do with gender: heat indices, ducktails, cat poop, impermanence, Hulk Hogan, Conway’s Game of Life, Michigan in the summer, Permethrin, online shopping, Spaceballs, elephants, and The Book of Job. But other topics in our wandering conversation are inevitably related to gender: Psycho, synthetic blue velvet dresses, hijabs, and a recently-deceased poet. As always, we ask the important questions: Why would God create mosquitoes? Does Reality exist beyond our perceptions? Why is 24fps better than 25fps for animators? Does Nina’s loss of her female tonsils make her less of a woman? How many hats does Cori have? (A: too many)

Links:

Benjamin Boyce w/ Cori and Graham Linehan

Psycho shower scene

cloaca: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloaca

Feline Follies (from Nina’s blog): https://ninapaley.com/2025/07/21/feline-follies/

Hulk Hogan dies at 71: https://www.espn.com/wwe/story/_/id/45813406/pro-wrestling-legend-hulk-hogan-dies-age-71

Voluntary Human Extinction Movement (again): https://www.vhemt.org/

Conway’s Game of Life: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conway's_Game_of_Life

Permethrin: https://www.sawyer.com/product/permethrin-fabric-treatment-insect-repellent-24-oz-trigger-spray

Informed Dissent

Spaceballs

soma crappy animation Nina DID NOT do: https://www.facebook.com/CoffeemateUSA/videos/23973682502325784/?rdid=0FcIVbVR5QfzzfBb#

The Book of Job

Believe by Ross Douthat

Andrea Gibson’s Love Letter from the Afterlife

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Episode 174: Smells Like Teen Eunuch

Nina Paley — Thu, 24 Jul 2025 00:18:51 GMT

Cori returns from San Francisco with brief tales of the Endocrine Society before launching into crazy population projections (AGAIN) and then making some rather provocative arguments. What are Human Rights? Can children consent to irreversible decisions? Is the individual the most important unit of society? Are women never competent? Has Cori been wearing Nina down for an hour and a half, or just an hour? Despite still grieving her cat, Nina does a good job arguing right back and the resulting debate is actually pretty good.

Links:

SF TERF Central: https://x.com/sf_terf_central

Endocrine Society conference in San Francisco: https://www.endocrine.org/meetings-and-events/endo-2025

The Female Eunuch by Germaine Greer: https://seminariolecturasfeministas.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/germaine-greer-the-female-eunuch.pdf

Self-fertilizing plants: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-pollination

Mating In Captivity by Esther Perel: https://www.harpercollins.com/products/mating-in-captivity-esther-perel?variant=41231555362850

Human Rights: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights

The Center for Individual Rights: https://cir-usa.org/

The Age of White Guilt by Shelby Steele: https://cir-usa.org/2002/11/the-age-of-white-guilt-and-the-disappearance-of-the-black-individual/

Nina’s SSDI Blue Book project (on hold for biking season): https://ninapaley.com/2025/05/31/illustrating-the-ssdi-blue-book/

R.I.P. Nina’s cat Lola: https://ninapaley.com/2025/07/10/rest-in-peace-sweet-lola/

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Episode 173: Psychos in Strasbourg, Degenerates in Indianapolis

Nina Paley — Wed, 16 Jul 2025 14:28:26 GMT

Cori speaks at the European Society for Child & Adolescent Psychiatry conference, then returns home to find degenerates everywhere. Meanwhile, Nina’s beloved cat dies. Cori calls out a “Protect the Dolls” campaign; Nina’s lungs improve. Cori has to clean up human feces in his yard; Nina wears a dress. Cori gets into pronatalism and blames Nina for western collapse; Nina sighs. Plus: pain au chocolat, lazy consonants, TSA shoes, cannabinoids, sanitariums, and yelling at clouds.

Links:

European Society for Child & Adolescent Psychiatry in Strasbourg https://www.escap.eu/events/escap-2025-congress-in-strasbourg

Pain au Chocolat: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pain_au_chocolat

TSA shoes: https://www.fox13memphis.com/news/travelers-will-no-longer-have-to-remove-their-shoes-for-tsa/article_c53fe231-d918-40e5-aa53-b7f0084e51ce.html

OutCare - Protect the Dolls: https://mailchi.mp/outcarehealth/september-outtalk-6420697

Dustin Nowaskie: https://www.outcarehealth.org/staff/dustin-nowaskie/

Art Bell: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_Bell

FTC Hearing: The Dangers of “Gender-Affirming Care” for Minors: https://www.ftc.gov/media/dangers-gender-affirming-care-minors?s=08

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Episode 172: Skrmetti Puttanesca with Judge TERF

Nina Paley — Tue, 24 Jun 2025 18:38:28 GMT

On June 18 the Supreme Court of the United States ruled on US v. Skrmetti, deciding whether a Tennessee law prohibiting certain medical interventions on youngsters violates the equal protection clause of the 14th amendment. The Hon. Elspeth Cypher (ret.) a.k.a. Judge TERF joins the Dorx to dissect the case, the decision, the concurrences, and the dissents. Which concurrence is best, Thomas’s or Barrett’s? Does Justice Sotomayor suffer from pathological empathy? If Skrmetti were a pasta, what type of sauce would be best on it? Plus Nina mis-sexes Chase Strangio (whoops!), Cori’s gender is Jewish, and Judge TERF solves the crisis in the Middle East.

Links:

US v. Skrmetti Decision, June 18 2025: https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/24pdf/23-477_2cp3.pdf

Judging US v Skrmetti with Judge TERF, December 2024: https://heterodorx.substack.com/p/judging-us-v-skrmetti-with-judge-891

Cori posts on Thomas’ concurrence: https://x.com/heterodorx/status/1935380685490880949

JD Vance tweets a screenshot of a post on Bluesky reposting Cori’s screenshot from Twitter (what?): https://x.com/JDVance/status/1935457852082016556

How The Transgender Rights Movement Bet On The Supreme Court and Lost by Nicholas Confessore (NYT): https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/19/magazine/scotus-transgender-care-tennessee-skrmetti.html?unlocked_article_code=1.QE8.JUql.PEoYV35S-FVz&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

Our episode on NYT podcast The Protocol: https://heterodorx.substack.com/p/episode-171-poop-and-protocol

Glenna Goldis Bad Facts: https://badfacts.substack.com/

Ilya Shapiro - Lawless: https://manhattan.institute/book/lawless-the-miseducation-of-americas-elites

WoLF: https://womensliberationfront.org/

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Episode 171: Poop and Protocol

Nina Paley — Thu, 19 Jun 2025 16:37:32 GMT

How old is Cori? Will the NYT podcast The Protocol change minds? Is there any competence in the Trump administration? Why is Nina’s cat pooping on the floor? These questions and more are asked, but not entirely answered, as we move in and out of the fetal position, name-drop various GC power players, and read aloud comments from another podcast’s subreddit.

Important note: Cori is COMPLETELY WRONG about last week’s timeline: Nina wrote about her cat 2 days after we recorded last time. Is his muddled thinking a symptom of estrogen withdrawal, or turning 50? SO MANY QUESTIONS

Links:

Pussy Whipped (Nina’s blog): https://blog.ninapaley.com/2025/06/07/pussy-whipped/

Informed Dissent analysis of The Protocol: Part 1

Part 2:

Missing from NYT's podcast THE PROTOCOL (Glenna Goldis on X): https://x.com/glennagoldis/status/1930969733748113531

Elliot Page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elliot_Page

Kinnon MacKinnon https://www.yorku.ca/positivechange/2022/06/24/kinnon-mackinnon/

Dude Looks Like A Lady (Aerosmith):

The comments we read from the Blocked & reported subReddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/BlockedAndReported/comments/1l1971t/comment/mwmctet/

Credit Is Due (The Attribution Song):

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Episode 170: Collective Punishment

Nina Paley — Wed, 11 Jun 2025 14:43:59 GMT

The Young Generation (Cori) reaches out to the Old Generation (Nina) and exhibits patience while pretending to listen to geezer tales of things that go wrong with body parts and the SSDI Blue Book. Then we get into the hip, happenin’, swingin’ NOW with the latest news on gay martyrs, fake martyrs, and trans martyrs. Nina consents to Cori’s exposition on immigration, and somehow gets stuck comparing illiberal policy to her Junior High school cafeteria. Plus: tribal identities, Cori’s synagogue, lenses, spicy food, organ recitals, Title VII, cooling sheets, and a surprisingly out-of-character bathroom joke.

Cori and Nina may not be equals, but they are co-hosts, which is about as close as we can get in this life.

Links

SSDI Blue Book: https://www.ssa.gov/disability/professionals/bluebook/AdultListings.htm

https://blog.ninapaley.com/2025/05/31/illustrating-the-ssdi-blue-book/

Jonathan Joss: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/jonathan-joss-killing-police-records-neighbor-dispute-rcna210670

Matthew Shepard: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/26/the-truth-behind-americas-most-famous-gay-hate-murder-matthew-shepard

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Episode 169: TERFs, Trannies, Crohnies, Bronchies, & Geezers

Nina Paley — Wed, 28 May 2025 02:37:27 GMT

Cori is almost 50, and Nina is 57 going on 80. We discuss bronchiectasis, health hazards, witchcraft, hypertonic saline, nebulizers, oxygen monitors, IQ tests, lifesaving gender-denying healthcare, pulmonology, and being a delicate flower. Cori gives a speech, doesn’t quit his job, and asks: at what age did we become adults? Why was he kicked out of his mom’s house at age 17? How do you pronounce ‘syncytial’? Covid may have taken decades off Nina’s life, but this episode will take less than an hour off yours.

Links:

Cori’s speech: https://x.com/heterodorx/status/1920583202114027686

Respiratory syncytial virus (RSV): https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/respiratory-syncytial-virus/symptoms-causes/syc-20353098

Nina’s illness art: https://blog.ninapaley.com/category/crohns/

Maryn Cadell - The Pope

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Episode 168: SSRIs, ADHD, and Medical Trends with Julia Mason, MD

Nina Paley — Thu, 01 May 2025 16:52:08 GMT

After several conversations about antidepressants, the Dorx welcome back pediatrician Dr. Julia Mason, who prescribes Selective Seretonin Reuptake Inhibitors (SSRIs) to young people. Do we even know what these drugs do to developing brains? How do antidepressants compare with “gender-affirming care”? Does Barlean’s Fish Oil really taste like lemon custard? We also talk about myelnation, the distress of youth, the parasympathetic nervous system, neurotransmitters, immunosuppression, social costs and benefits of treatments, wildly swinging trends in medicine, unintended consequences, public schools, and the over-diagnoses of Attention-Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD). Medical institutions have a lot to answer for, but at least we have Nampons for nosebleeds.

Links:

Nampons: https://nampons.com/

SEGM: https://segm.org/about_us

Feminist blogger with Crohn’s Disease: https://cannabisrefugeeesq.wordpress.com/2018/03/27/cannabis-refugee-esq/

Nina on Prozac: https://blog.ninapaley.com/2025/02/08/back-on-zac/

myelination: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myelination

Barlean’s Fish Oil https://www.barleans.com/collections/fish-oils/products/seriously-delicious-omega-3-fish-oil-lemon-creme

Listening to Prozac: https://www.peterdkramer.com/new-page

The Noonday Demon: https://andrewsolomon.com/books/the-noonday-demon/

Xeno’s Paradox: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeno%27s_paradoxes#Dichotomy_paradox

Julia Mason on the Chain of Trust in Medicine:

Hunter in a Farmer’s World by Thom Hartmann: https://www.hunterinafarmersworld.com/

NYT: Have We Been Thinking About ADHD All Wrong? https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/13/magazine/adhd-medication-treatment-research.html?campaign_id=9&emc=edit_nn_20250413&instance_id=152482&nl=the-morning®i_id=58030095&segment_id=195907&user_id=a173f8835e89df3e22af711782032be9

Jamie Reed also recommends Nampons: https://x.com/JamieWhistle

Our 2023 Julia Mason interview: https://www.heterodorx.com/podcast/episode-105-pediatric-disenchantment-with-julia-mason-md/

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Episode 167: American Taxpayer Appreciation Episode

Nina Paley — Fri, 18 Apr 2025 19:30:20 GMT

Cori is a hard-working corporate employee who dutifully contributes to America’s tax base. Nina is a low-income artist with Crohn’s Disease whose medical expenses make her a net parasite, despite also paying taxes. After a surprise performance of improvised music by soda-can virtuoso Cori, we discuss tariffs, security, Medicaid, FICA, “maxing out contributions,” Incidence of Taxation, employment benefits, monetary incentives, distortions, the Tragedy of the Commons, suckers, rationalizations, population collapse/explosion, and episodic disability. Is art, work? How hard is it to be poor? Can air be privatized? Like Life itself, our tax/benefits system isn’t fair, and it cannot go on forever. So a big Thank You to all American taxpayers who support unproductive, under-productive, post-productive, and ill members of society like your show-notes writer.

Links:

Leta Boylan testimony

Terminator 2: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0103064/

Tragedy of the Commons: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons

The Economist on more people claiming entitlements: https://www.economist.com/britain/2025/04/02/the-tyranny-of-tiktokkers-who-turn-up

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Episode 166: Illin', Chillin', & Gettin' That Bill In

Nina Paley — Fri, 11 Apr 2025 16:27:57 GMT

Cori travels from statehouse to statehouse to testify against the worst excesses of gender ideology, while Nina gets sick for a month and loses her voice and relevance. Cori shares news from New Hampshire, where heterodox Democrat Jonah Wheeler is subject to a struggle session; Nina shares about watching television and playing Lexulous. Our lives couldn’t be more different, but we come back together to argue about AI art, neurodivergence, diagnosis skepticism, the attention economy, and ice cream. Our new slogan is “Bring Back Retardation!” and we’re doing our part.

Links

Jonah Wheeler breaks ranks with Democrats: https://x.com/Sidewalk_Steve/status/1902818393373413728

Jonah Wheeler struggle/listening session:

Cones ice cream (closed): https://www.yelp.com/biz/cones-artisanal-ice-cream-new-york

Winter, a trans kid: https://x.com/LGBCourage/status/1899180045870010722

Yarden Silveira: https://www.city-journal.org/article/yarden-silveira-death-transgender-surgery-complications?utm_source=virtuous&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=cjdaily

Ash Hall: https://www.aclutx.org/en/biographies/ash-hall

Ovarit shutting down: https://ovarit.com/o/Announcements/676340/ovarit-is-closing

Severance: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11280740/

Autism self-diagnosis: https://x.com/buttonslives/status/1906851869106082120

B******t Jobs by David Graeber: https://cominsitu.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/david-graeber-b******t-jobs-a-theory-1.pdf

episodic disability: https://episodicdisabilities.ca/home.php

You Be Illin’ - RUN DMC:

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Episode 165: Did We Win Yet?

Nina Paley — Thu, 27 Mar 2025 00:31:36 GMT

Following up on our June 2021 episode What If We Win? the Dorx ask whether we have won the gender wars yet. While discussing weak arguments, bad journalism, wrong pronouns, diversity of tactics, tolerance, metallurgy, the responsibility of power, and Cori’s “boys,” still more questions arise: Why are people who know better still referring to men as women? Who coddles the coddlers? Is a Liberal’s true authentic self an Authoritarian? How do you pronounce “Maori”? Listen to this episode for answers, and remember to STAY MARGINAL!

Links:

What If We Win? Heterodorx June 2021 episode: https://www.heterodorx.com/podcast/episode-21-what-if-we-win/

Blocked & reported Zizians episode: https://www.blockedandreported.org/p/episode-247-the-zizians-reign-of

Informed Dissent podcast on Brianna Wu: https://informeddissentpodcast.substack.com/p/episode-12-the-babies-are-in-charge

Nina’s Tweet about pronouns: https://x.com/ninapaley/status/1893348769053254076

Conservative NZ church hakka disrupts Pride parade: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOjP-L8acU8&ab_channel=AllBlacks

Rumspringa: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rumspringa

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Episode 164: Nina's Brain Breaks Itself

Nina Paley — Wed, 12 Mar 2025 18:41:02 GMT

Cori suddenly pivots to surprise Nina with an unexpected interview about her lifelong mental health affliction and the medication she takes to manage it. What is the difference between grief and depression? Should you “feel your feelings” when your feelings are broken? What is serotonin? Which is a better theory of the brain: etchings or bike gears? We know very little about brains, which raises another question: can we talk to an SSRI expert?

This is actually a pretty good discussion about depression and antidepressants, which is why we made it its own episode (the previous half is Episode 163: Cori’s Boobs Break The Internet.)

Link:

Back on ‘Zac by Nina: https://blog.ninapaley.com/2025/02/08/back-on-zac/

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Episode 163: Cori’s Breasts Break The Internet

Nina Paley — Wed, 12 Mar 2025 18:34:19 GMT

More than what you ever needed to know about Cori’s breasts! Are they real? Are they implants? Are they gynecomastia? Whatever you call them (Cori calls them “the Boys”) they never fail to upset certain people on Twitter. Plus: Cori’s sweater, Cori’s scarf, Cori’s weight, Cori’s latest testimony at the Indiana Statehouse, Cori’s political opponents, and — as if that weren’t enough — Cori’s conversion to Judaism!

We broke this episode in two because Part Two is about something completely different.

Links:

KJK goes after Cori: https://x.com/heterodorx/status/1889852099518955762

Cori’s testimony: https://x.com/heterodorx/status/1889695879658938488

Sia Liilii: https://nevadawolfpack.com/sports/womens-volleyball/roster/sia-liilii/11631

Chris Daley, Indiana ACLU: https://www.aclu-in.org/en/biographies/chris-daley

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The Straight-Inclusive Queer Majority with Rio Veradonir

Nina Paley — Wed, 26 Feb 2025 23:54:50 GMT

A founding editor of online magazine Queer Majority, Rio Veradonir advocates “an inclusive vision of queerness grounded in the liberal value of universal human rights, rather than identity politics.” We discuss liberalism, anti-liberalism, the gay press, extremism in media, neo-marxism, critical social justice, legitimate vs made-up oppression, population politics, the right to hurt yourself, the distribution of mens’ IQs, and, most importantly, pegging. Nina argues against surrogacy, Cori shares his podcast goals, and both admire Veradonir’s use of the word “orthopraxy.” We also use the word “retarded” because Heterodorx is a free speech zone. Liberty for all!

Links:

Queer Majority: https://www.queermajority.com/

Rio Veradonir: https://www.queermajority.com/about-the-editor-sub/about-the-editor-rv

Cynical Theories by Helen Pluckrose & James Lindsay: https://cynicaltheories.com/

The Baby Boon by Elinor Burkett: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-Baby-Boon/Elinor-Burkett/9780743242646

Nina’s Sex-Positive Memoirs: https://4w.pub/sex-pos-memoirs/

Kaynes-Hayek Rap Battle: https://tinyurl.com/mrtbebbm

The Economist: https://www.economist.com/

San Francisco Sex Information: https://www.sfsi.org/

Andrea Dworkin on The Sexual Revolution: https://blog.ninapaley.com/2019/08/23/andrea-dworkin-on-the-sexual-revolution/

Wilfred Reilly: https://www.queermajority.com/contributors-1/wilfred-reilly

Daniel Quasar: https://designsbydanielquasar.com/pages/freelance-and-commissions/

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Autogynephantasia! Our Emelia Pérez Review

Nina Paley — Fri, 14 Feb 2025 15:15:15 GMT

Cori and Nina endure 2 hours of neo-religious propaganda so you don’t have to. Instead, you must endure 20 minutes of Nina attempting to recall plot points while Cori complains how long it’s taking. Are the characters flat, or nuanced? Is the movie merely terrible, or does it have cult classic potential? Is the director cleverer than we give him credit for? How much can the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences humiliate itself? Cori eventually talks himself into giving two thumbs up for “The Room of 2024” while Nina is just glad it’s over.

Links:

Emilia Pérez: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt20221436/

Vaginoplasty song:

The Room: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0368226/?ref_=fn_all_ttl_2

“Oh hi Mark”:

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Executive Order 14168

Nina Paley — Sat, 08 Feb 2025 19:56:15 GMT

Cori and Nina take turns reading aloud Trump’s Executive Order 14168: Defending Women from Gender Identity Extremism and Restoring Biological Truth to the Federal Government, commenting on every section. You won’t get a deeper analysis than ours, although you must endure Cori’s over-dramatic reading voice and the hosts’ occasional bickering.

Links:

Executive Order 14168: Defending Women from Gender Identity Extremism and Restoring Biological Truth to the Federal Government: https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/defending-women-from-gender-ideology-extremism-and-restoring-biological-truth-to-the-federal-government/

TERFle Island: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtle_Island

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The Ideological Capture of Tech with Bryan Lunduke

Nina Paley and Bryan Lunduke — Thu, 30 Jan 2025 20:55:58 GMT

Remember the Free and Open Internet? Tech journalist Bryan Lunduke does, and isn’t afraid to write about its demise one institutional capture at a time. We discuss having our hearts broken by our beloved Internet Archive; the Wikipedia Foundation’s shady dealings; the Electronic Frontier Foundation’s championing “the right for little children to look at porn on the internet”; and Mozilla’s “Feminist decolonial lgbtqia+ climate justice using AI event in Zambia.” Like any good journalists, we ask the tough questions: How do you get your name forbidden by ChatGPT? Who is more banned from conferences, Lunduke or Paley? Are we gonna have a free and open internet, or not? (Answer: not.) Whether you love nerds or merely are one, this entertaining episode will have you wanting to get offline more than ever.

Links:

The Lunduke Journal: Lunduke.com

ChatGPT Can Not Say “Bryan Lunduke”:

https://lunduke.substack.com/p/chatgpt-can-not-say-bryan-lunduke

The Cathedral and the Bazaar by Eric Raymond: http://www.catb.org/esr/writings/cathedral-bazaar/

Our Kiwi Farms/Josh Moon episode: https://www.heterodorx.com/podcast/episode-107-how-the-internet-lost-its-backbone-with-joshua-moon/

Cori’s Kiwi Farms article:

https://corinnacohn.substack.com/p/the-world-should-not-need-kiwi-farms

Larry Sanger Speaks Out:

https://christopherrufo.com/p/larry-sanger-speaks-out

Women in tech: https://mimiandeunice.com/2018/11/07/women-in-tech/

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Desecrating the PFLAG

Nina Paley — Thu, 23 Jan 2025 20:03:15 GMT

Cori and Nina “deform” a flag and it goes viral for a few seconds, thanks to the outrage of self-diagnosed autists. But hysterical online denunciations aren’t what they used to be, especially when you identify as an A*****e, as Nina now does to treat her kindness dysphoria. Many questions arise about Cori: how human is he? Will he sue his “healthcare providers”? Would he have died sooner if he hadn’t transed? Will he convert to Judaism?

In sadder news, we mourn the passing of Cori’s cat, Harley. May his cute and fluffy memory be a blessing.

Links:

Pride Restored pins: https://store.ninapaley.com/product/pride-restored-pin/

Thank you for driving sales! https://x.com/sarahkahncept/status/1879229899476746749

Hahahaha: https://x.com/LostTelly/status/1879664783991230550

Helen Joyce and Jo CAMPBELL (who we embarrassingly misidentified as Jo Bartosch, sorry!): https://x.com/rorybowman/status/1879586791474512040

Judge Vacates Biden’s Title IX Rule: https://www.insidehighered.com/news/government/student-aid-policy/2025/01/09/federal-judge-throws-out-bidens-title-ix-overhaul

I Am An A*****e by Nina: https://blog.ninapaley.com/2025/01/16/i-am-an-a*****e/

Nina’s recent drawings: https://blog.ninapaley.com/category/100-drawings/

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Lesbians, Law, and Bicycles with Glenna Goldis

Nina Paley and Glenna Goldis — Thu, 16 Jan 2025 02:40:30 GMT

Lawyer and unyielding bicyclist Glenna Goldis knows the law, knows how to write, and knows women are female (ask her how!). After she describes her fancy road bike, and Nina lists her many recumbents, we move on to The US vs Skrmetti (also discussed here). Plus: cocaine, harm reduction, biker bars, the ACLU, propaganda, men in women’s prisons, “improper housing,” cults, academics, clergy, saviors, honor court, gay marriage, SOGI, judge trainings, and the nascent Gender Critical Law Society. Goldis reminds us, “the people who fall for a scam are the people who are targeted for a scam,” and asks the important question: will Kara Dansky “flip” for Cori? Tune in and don’t find out!

Links

Glenna’s substack: https://badfacts.substack.com/

Glenna on X: https://x.com/unyieldingbicyc

Who’s Who in US vs Skrmetti: https://badfacts.substack.com/p/whos-who-in-us-v-skrmetti

Rebecca Tuvel/Hypatia: https://www.feministcurrent.com/2017/05/25/open-letter-hypatia-controversy/

Easy Racers: https://easyracers.com/

GCCAN (now defunct): https://x.com/officialgccan

WoLF: https://womensliberationfront.org/staff-and-board

Alison Bechdel: https://dykestowatchoutfor.com/about/

Andrea Dworkin, “Abortion” from Right Wing Women: https://blog.ninapaley.com/2019/08/23/andrea-dworkin-on-the-sexual-revolution/

“Lesbians” in tech: https://mimiandeunice.com/2018/11/07/women-in-tech/

US v Skrmetti with Judge TERF: https://heterodorx.substack.com/p/judging-us-v-skrmetti-with-judge-891

Gender Critical Law Society survey: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe8Z0ZmL4JEmObumuUQzM-AzhbQ2UP_FNZijYVQEjSxGU0WlA/viewform

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The Trouble With Parents with Stephanie Winn

Corinna Cohn — Fri, 27 Dec 2024 20:10:18 GMT

Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria (ROGD) is a family disease, affecting not only “trans kids” but parents and siblings too. Therapist, coach, consultant, and educator Stephanie Winn returns to Heterodorx to illuminate some of the hazards parents and other family members navigate: victimhood as identity, drama triangles, destabilization, enabling secondary gain, estrangement, extreme defensiveness, exacerbating relationship difficulties, “game-able heuristics”, and the trifecta of social contagion. Cori and Nina talk a little about their own family difficulties, while Stephanie describes her course curriculum for parents.

In this life, there’s no perfect parent. Indeed, there’s no perfect person. But there are two perfect people: your co-hosts, Cori and Nina. Happy Holidays from Heterodorx!

Links:

PITT (Parents with Inconvenient Truths about Trans): https://www.pittparents.com/

ROGD Repair: https://course.rogdrepair.com/p/rogd-repair

Stephanie’s podcast, You Must Be Some Kind of Therapist: https://www.sometherapist.com/

Stephanie's "The Nature of the Beast of Gender Ideology" episode: https://youtu.be/RChLTmyepsY?si=R8YQV2OQMkG8PZs_

2023 Ben Appel Heterodorx episode: https://www.heterodorx.com/podcast/episode-103-doin-the-12-step-with-ben-appel/

2022 Stephanie Winn episode: https://www.heterodorx.com/podcast/episode-75-stephanie-winn-is-some-kind-of-therapist/

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Artificial Intelligence with Chris Waites

Corinna Cohn — Tue, 17 Dec 2024 02:05:07 GMT

AI Art Director, amateur comedian, band-aid specialist, DEI hire, and street researcher Chris Waites returns to Heterodorx — now with 10% more white! After disclosing some shattering news from 23&Me, Chris shares his expertise on AI generated visual art (please follow along on his Instagram page). Is AI art actually art? Does it threaten human art jobs? What are the differences between models such as Midjourney and DALL-E? Are there hot redheaded men? Is AI a tool, or a medium? Why can’t AI imitate Nina’s style? Can redheads have souls? Who produces more crap: humans or AI? What’s the best way to write an AI visual prompt? Can a Pokemon consent? From Tumblr fursona artists to Google Gemini, the time of scarce content is over and a new era of head-spinning disorientation has begun. Bleeeep!

Links:

Chris’s Instagram account: https://www.instagram.com/crswaites/

Our 2021 interview with Chris: https://www.heterodorx.com/podcast/episode-18-a-black-band-aid-for-white-guilt-with-chris-waites/

Nina’s $150 Drawings: https://blog.ninapaley.com/category/hundred-dollar-drawings/

Sarah Anderson vs AI: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/31/opinion/sarah-andersen-how-algorithim-took-my-work.html

Preston Blair how-to-draw algorithms: https://animationresources.org/category/preston-blair/

Wim Wenders Until The End of the World: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Until_the_End_of_the_World

Chris Waites/Midjourney art for “Kick Out The Jams” https://www.instagram.com/p/DCXDmn3SFX5/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

Chris Waites/Midjourney art for “We’re Not Going to Make It” https://www.instagram.com/p/DCXDCX4yUCw/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

Chris Waites/Midjourney art for The Presidents of the United States of America https://www.instagram.com/p/DCMkG1rPXm7/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

“Bite Marks” by Suno AI & Cori Cohn: https://suno.com/song/fc8fe1ce-dd97-4846-88f1-66701f7e2721

Al Jaffee: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Jaffee

Don Martin: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Martin_(cartoonist)

Google Gemini advises “Please Die” https://www.cbsnews.com/news/google-ai-chatbot-threatening-message-human-please-die/

Chris on fecebook: https://www.facebook.com/crswaites

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Judging US v Skrmetti with Judge TERF

Corinna Cohn — Sat, 07 Dec 2024 22:06:52 GMT

Retired MA High Court Justice & WoLF legal powerhouse Elspeth Cypher returns to Heterodorx to discuss US v. Skrmetti, the Supreme Court case that could change the pediatric gender-industrial complex forever. Nina gives a “pedestrian viewpoint” of the hearing before superior legal minds Elspeth and Cori discuss solicitor generals, attorney generals, constitutional chaos, differentiation, discrimination, Dobbs, Loving, quasi-suspect vs full suspect classification, the equal protection clause, differences between girls and boys, and sissy beer. Nina eventually gets to talk about her FEELINGS on suicidal ideation, the relentless annoyance of youthful distress, child abuse, un-adults, terrifying life processes, and the need to grow up and old. Then we hear Judge TERF’s predictions of the outcome (coming Spring 2025), and Cori reminds everyone he TOLD YOU SO.

Links:

US v Skrmetti: https://www.oyez.org/cases/2024/23-477

US v Skrmetti Supreme Cour Oral Arguments (audio): https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/supreme-court-oral-arguments/id1734053538?i=1000679254238

Admiral Levine pressures WPATH: https://jessesingal.substack.com/p/unsealed-court-documents-show-that

Levine as drawn by Nina in the Gender Wars deck: https://www.heterodorx.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/King_clubs.png

“The Alabama case” Boe v. Marshall: https://www.alabamaag.gov/boe-v-marshall/

Don’t Be A Lawyer (from Crazy Ex Girlfriend): https://youtu.be/Xs-UEqJ85KE?si=q89tFjRixG3bFKSH

Cori TOLD YOU SO: https://x.com/heterodorx/status/1670098583893291011

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Next year in Jerusalem?

Corinna Cohn — Mon, 25 Nov 2024 15:03:03 GMT

Still on the path to conversion, Corinna updates us on his latest “Jew lessons” and why he kept the surname Cohn instead of anglicizing it to something like SparkleTree. We discuss the loss of oppression points for being Jewish; super-circumcision; antisemitism; and maybe visiting Israel someday. Meanwhile, Nina earns a subsistence wage sewing gloves, endures a Skyrizi On-Body Injector malfunction, talks to a robot, and looks like a grandma. Then we discuss Bluesky’s authoritarian moderation policies. Is telling the truth masochistic? Do liars know they’re lying? Are we losing a tranny, or gaining a Jew? Listen to this surprisingly wide-ranging episode to find out!

Links:

Poor audio quality and puns: https://www.heterodorx.com/podcast/episode-151-fear-of-a-woke-bike-mechanic/

Jewish Literacy by Rabbi Joseph Telushkin: https://www.harpercollins.com/products/jewish-literacy-revised-ed-joseph-telushkin?variant=32117445263394

Seder-Masochism: https://sedermasochism.com/download/

Cochin Jews of India: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cochin_Jews

Nina’s Art Gloves: https://store.ninapaley.com/product/recovery-glovery/

Summer of Glove: https://blog.ninapaley.com/2024/10/28/summer-of-glove/

Crazy podcast full of commercials: https://open.spotify.com/episode/4ir3Gp2SDjz2Gmo5ZxQftb

Nina’s Crohn’s Disease treatment: https://blog.ninapaley.com/2024/03/02/my-last-hospital-administered-skyrizi-infusion/

Skyrizi On-Body Injector: https://www.skyrizi.com/skyrizi-complete/gastro/obi-support

Bryan Lunduke: https://lunduke.com/

Cori’s adventures on Bluesky: https://x.com/heterodorx/status/1858381907714601083

MysticSymbolic: https://www.mysticsymbolic.art/

Jen Psaki lies on MSNBC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcKBpoooM5E

It’s Ma’am! https://youtu.be/EtqCgkOOjYc?si=iOZvAhM4YmpwjYl-

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Post Election Derangement and Schadenfreude

Corinna Cohn — Thu, 14 Nov 2024 17:44:44 GMT

Nina scrutinizes Cori’s Jewish pedigree and flaunts her own, while Cori compares Nina to Hitler and Kamala Harris to baloney. Then we discuss last week’s American presidential election! The suspense was killing us, but now we know who won (spoiler alert!) so we can stop compulsively checking our phones and breathe a sigh of relief and/or deranged terror. Cori reviews his history of voting Libertarian, dispenses advice for Democrats, bemoans his neighborhood Kroger, and warns, “all this hyperbole is literally gonna kill somebody." Shalom, TREFs and Trannies!

Links:

A Short History of the Jewish People by Raymond Scheindlin: https://global.oup.com/ushe/product/a-short-history-of-the-jewish-people-9780195139419?cc=us&lang=en&

Seder-Masochism: https://sedermasochism.com/download/

tref: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/tref

haram: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/haram

Tables chairs and oaken chests (NOT cabinets): https://youtu.be/URWa0rbB1Kw?si=VAZnUZ7mv2rORo_v&t=136

Schadenfreude: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/schadenfreude

Handmaid’s Tale uniforms: https://x.com/ninapaley/status/1854633563855208545

BRICS: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BRICS

Nina’s gloves: https://blog.ninapaley.com/2024/10/28/summer-of-glove/

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Fear of a Woke Bike Mechanic

Corinna Cohn — Mon, 04 Nov 2024 18:06:24 GMT

Nina’s social anxiety disorder impedes proper maintenance of her bicycles, while Corinna’s anti-social disorder compels him to empty an entire canister of dad jokes into the podcast. Are pronouns passé? What is the word for lonely bereaved former cat owners? How much can you round up pi? Plus Nina announces a significant lifestyle change, and shares intimate details about Judge TERF. Don’t forget to leave us a 5-star review unless one of us isn’t wearing a bra, and be sure to smash that “like” button!

Epilogue: the one non-woke bike shop in Nina’s town just got raided by federal agents for illegal firearms and explosives. I’m not kidding. Compelled pronouns or guns, those are your choices for bicycle repair in Champaign-Urbana.

Links:

Nina’s 2022 blog post about gender and cycling: https://blog.ninapaley.com/2022/03/21/cycling-and-gender-intersect-in-meaningful-ways/

Byers Vacuum: http://www.byersvacuum.com/

Golden Harbour: https://www.goldenharboronline.com/

Our Judge TERF interview: https://www.heterodorx.com/podcast/episode-145-queering-the-law-with-judge-terf/

Nevada Wolf Pack women's volleyball team boycotts San Jose: https://www.outkick.com/sports/unr-womens-volleyball-shared-stories-protect-womens-athletics

Oskee-Wow-Wow Illinois! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chief_Illiniwek

Alma Otter: https://blog.ninapaley.com/2019/02/19/the-alma-otter/

Federal Agents Bust Urbana Bike Shop For Illegal Firearms and Explosives: https://www.wcia.com/video/urbana-man-indicted-after-federal-search-reveals-more-than-100-firearms-in-his-home/10153556/

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Aaron Kimberly Look-a Like a Man

Corinna Cohn — Wed, 30 Oct 2024 16:11:50 GMT

What happens when a butch lesbian who’s been on testosterone 18 years realizes she wants back into womanhood? Whatever it is, prepare for a tidal wave of masculinized women about to do the same. Can women accept women who look like men as their own? How many masculine visual cues (facial hair, baldness) can/will/should other women tolerate? Is this uncomfortable liminal situation the fault of (de)transitioners themselves, or is it everyone’s problem now? Aaron Kimberly discusses her own experiences post-T, including: irreversibility, male-passing forever, the crisis narrative of detransitioners, homophobia fatigue, and insensitive urinal jokes. Plus: turbo-butches, pink bows, the abstract vs the practical, giggling vs belly laughs, tiny heads, symbolic gestures, metoidioplasty, mental health, bowing out of groups, lesbian fashion compliance, Vancouver weirdos, fuzzy Birkenstocks, and elusive but desperately needed NON-affirming healthcare.

Links:

Aaron Kimberly on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@aaron.kimberly

Aaron Kimberly substack: https://aaronkimberly.substack.com/

Aaron Kimberly twitter: https://x.com/Aaron_GDAC

Genspect Lisbon conference: https://genspect.org/the-bigger-picture-lisbon/

LGB Alliance: https://lgballiance.org.uk/conference/

LGBT Courage Coalition: https://www.lgbtcourage.org/

Aaron Kimberly playing the banjo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLbUOie5y7k&ab_channel=AaronKimberly

Rainbow Connection: https://youtu.be/WS3Lkc6Gzlk?si=jNqw-7J2pLuiH5ya

Aaron Webster: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Webster

“She Look Like A Man”: https://youtu.be/b7NrJqV7i2k?si=oRoJhbtkr2psUeN4

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The Academic Freedom Closet with Cory Clark

Corinna Cohn — Mon, 21 Oct 2024 14:50:34 GMT

The Dorx experience a proliferation of Cories as behavioral scientist Cory Clark shares fascinating observations about victimhood strategies, punishment, tribes, norms, taboos, hyper-cautious conformity, the ambition of academics, scrutiny of unpopular papers, self-censorship, socially costly beliefs, tenure, reputational threats, and socially desirable empirical conclusions that turn out not to be true. Nina signals her victim status as a canceled artist while morally judging cowards; Cori (Cohn) notes how errors in academia spread through society; and Cory (Clark) confesses she is a confessor to many a guilty and frightened professor. It turns out everybody wants power and status, even scientists! Maybe your co-hosts are doing it wrong.

Links:

Cory Clark’s website: https://www.coryjclark.com/

Adversarial Collaboration Project: https://web.sas.upenn.edu/adcollabproject/

Cory Clark’s Twitter: https://x.com/ImHardcory

Lisa Selin Davis on the Philly Trans Wellness Conference: https://www.broadview.news/p/fear-and-loathing-and-trans-joy-in

Stereotype Threat: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stereotype_threat

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Hurricane Gender downgraded to Tropical Depression Gender

Corinna Cohn — Thu, 10 Oct 2024 16:05:32 GMT

Speaking of depression, Cori admits his but Nina sounds so cynically resigned maybe she’s depressed too. After discussing feline euphoria, free speech, hate speech, terrible presidential candidates, and men’s clothing, Cori reveals his misadventures trying to get medical care from endocrinologists who prioritize “gender identity” over human health. Nina brags about her postmenopausal testosterone-producing cojones and insists women are more than “estrogen containers”. We’re getting sick of talking about gender but no one will talk to us about AI, and if we continue insulting potential guests no one will talk to us at all. Is this the end of “content”? Listen and decide — but please don’t tell us.

Links:

Nina’s announces write-in candidacy on Twitter while wearing men’s clothing: https://x.com/ninapaley/status/1838284192540491924/photo/2

Judge TERF episode: https://www.heterodorx.com/podcast/episode-145-queering-the-law-with-judge-terf/

Will Malone (Endocrinologist) episode: https://www.heterodorx.com/podcast/episode-63-ask-an-endocrinologist-with-dr-william-malone/

Women’s volleyball teams refusing to play San Jose State: https://www.christianpost.com/news/womens-volleyball-teams-forfeit-against-sjsu-over-trans-player.html

High school girls’ volleyball player gets concussion from male player: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-13693959/payton-mcnabb-volleyball-player-paralyzed-brain-damage-transgender.html

Female athletes sue NCAA: https://www.iconswomen.com/take-on-the-ncaa/

Seder-Masochism (Nina’s movie about Passover): https://sedermasochism.com/download/

Nina’s weird art gloves

apocalypseanimated.com

mysticsymbolic.art

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Richard Hanania Hates His Audience

Corinna Cohn — Wed, 25 Sep 2024 15:46:08 GMT

Political commentator and contrarian (but don’t call him that) Richard Hanania talks about his transition from callow supporter of Barack Obama through the fringes of Internet reactionary libertarianism and back to good old fashioned American conservatism, only to find that such a thing hardly exists any more. He tells us that Trump is bad, the Covid vaccine is good, and either extreme is prone to be wrong. Maybe the middle isn't all that bad? Hanania steps on a copyright landmine, makes cartoon quips, and advocates for cultural changes that would be recognizable to grey-heads like Nina and Corinna who grew up in the 70s and 80s. Is he sincere, or is this a ploy to outrage his audience and expand his social media reach? You decide.

Links:

Crying At Starbucks (AI song directed by Corinna): https://suno.com/song/5c8cc286-dc79-4e46-87e2-4c18dd06f8fb

Richard Hanania’s Newsletter: https://www.richardhanania.com/

Links to books, podcasts etc.: https://www.richardhanania.com/about

on twitter: https://x.com/RichardHanania

Please Don’t Call Me “Heterodox”: https://www.richardhanania.com/p/please-dont-call-me-heterodox

Against Intellectual Property by Stephan Kinsella: https://mises.org/library/book/against-intellectual-property

This Land Is Mine: https://youtu.be/8tIdCsMufIY?si=YRDGf5mspFd9K60t

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Science Fiction with Jon Del Arroz

Corinna Cohn — Sat, 14 Sep 2024 00:56:06 GMT

Science Fiction author and journalist Jon Del Arroz was canceled before being canceled was cool (2016) and sued WorldCon for banning him in 2018. He discusses author communities, latinx armor, being both marginalized and having white privilege, crowdfunding for comics, Trump Derangement Syndrome, the twist of no twist, small presses, Marion Zimmer Bradley, Neil Gaiman, John Scalzi, the noncompliant majority, the swing of the political pendulum, alien pronouns, Revelation, bringing God’s kingdom on earth, Christian nationalism, and abortion vans. Cori reminisces about when science fiction was more libertarian, and Nina asks: what about the weirdos?

Links:

Jon’s website: https://delarroz.com/

Jon’s YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/jondelarroz

Jon on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B01NBOZVCP

Jon on Twitter: https://x.com/jondelarroz

Agents of H.A.G.: https://store.ninapaley.com/product/agents-of-h-a-g-comic-book/

Compliance Comix: https://store.ninapaley.com/product/compliance-comix/

Science Fiction & Fantasy Writers Association: https://www.sfwa.org/

Marion Zimmer Bradley: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marion_Zimmer_Bradley

Wikipedia article on the Sad Puppies: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sad_Puppies

Hugo Award nominees (best novel) on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Award_for_Best_Novel

John Scalzi: https://whatever.scalzi.com/2013/07/16/and-now-here-i-am-in-a-regency-dress/

Nina’s outdated bio (2005): https://ninapaley.com/bio.html

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Queering the Law with Judge TERF

Corinna Cohn — Wed, 04 Sep 2024 20:34:24 GMT

The Honorable Justice Elspeth B Cypher (Retired) left her appointment on the Supreme Judicial Court of Massachusetts to become the most-interviewed yet least-heard Heterodorx guest. Cypher discusses the Biden administrations attempts to replace sex with gender in Title IX, and the efforts of 20+ states and Moms for Liberty to push back. We also cover women in Afghanistan, the Chevron Doctrine, federal money held over foster care, Tickle vs. Giggle, Tennessee vs Cardona, stays, staying stays, appeals, districts, the MA Supreme Court-to-TERF pipeline, faith in the judicial system, why pi does not equal 3 in Indiana, making unpopular decisions as a judge, retroactively transing Ruth “Theyder” Ginsburg, biological height, masculinity, fighting oppression with more oppression, flexibility vs functionality of law, hijacking compassion, and boobs. Cori gives Elspeth his Trans Blessing but doesn’t have enough testosterone to give Nina his Andro-Blessing, proving once again there is no justice.

Links:

The Alabama case Cori was talking about: https://media.ca11.uscourts.gov/opinions/pub/files/202211707.2.pdf

scold’s bridle: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scold%27s_bridle

WoLF: https://womensliberationfront.org/

Chevron Doctrine: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevron_U.S.A.,_Inc._v._Natural_Resources_Defense_Council,_Inc.

https://www.whitecase.com/insight-alert/us-supreme-court-strikes-down-chevron-doctrine-what-you-need-know

Tickle vs. Giggle (Australia): https://quillette.com/2024/08/27/tickle-vs-giggle/

TN vs Cardona: https://adfmedia.org/case/state-tennessee-v-cardona

Fight the Bears: https://indamidle.substack.com/p/fight-the-bears

Email Judge TERF: elspeth@womensliberationfront.org

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Anti-Culture, Bee Stings, and the IOC

Corinna Cohn — Sun, 11 Aug 2024 17:05:28 GMT

The Heteroducks quack about the bee stings, Covid spikes, and personal lockdowns that canceled their long-anticipated Portland trip. Then Cori “Ice Cream” Cohn pleads for nuance in considering 5-ARD males competing in women’s sports categories. He argues it is solely the fault and responsibility of the International Olympic Committee, and our rage should be directed at these irresponsible, misogynistic, activist athletic organization hierarchs, not the athletes. Finally, IceCream attempts to define “Anti-Culture,” and Nina brings up demoralization and foreign agents. Remember: Bee mad at the IOC!

Links:

Portlandia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6IhNcnLwiw

Airigami (no longer available): https://www.airgami.life/

Cori’s alien sex toy: https://tinyurl.com/3mwj4yes

Nina’s bee-stung finger: https://x.com/ninapaley/status/1821193685255778487

Cori’s tweet about 5-ARD athletes: https://x.com/heterodorx/status/1819444488001278124

Demoralization (Yuri Bezmenov): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX3EZCVj2XA

Mania by Lionel Shriver: https://www.harpercollins.com/products/mania-lionel-shriver?variant=41080727437346

FBoy Island https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14825858/

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Gender in the Church with Brandon Showalter

Corinna Cohn — Tue, 06 Aug 2024 15:55:14 GMT

Journalist, denominational mutt, and little-o orthodox Christian Brandon Showalter covers the “gender beat” at the Christian Post. He fills us in on how gender ideology is infiltrating churches, and answers: What is a Christian? What is gnosticism? How do denominations differ? What are human rights? What state has the worst drivers? (Maryland.) We also discuss the Nicene Creed, Reality’s Last Stand, heresy, redemption, the flesh, self-idolatry, bioethics, the rise of the “nones”, evangelism, zealotry, sex scandals, martyrdom, persecution complexes, and how resistance to gender ideology is overcoming political divides. In the words of the world’s most beloved un-killable zombie, you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free (John 8:31).

Links

Brandon Showalter at the Christian Post: https://www.christianpost.com/by/brandon-showalter

Brandon Showalter on Twitter: https://x.com/BrandonMShow

Generation Indoctrination podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/0voIUbVZu44iuZHtV3QIcm

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLBv_c__WF0jR0nl75FFNL68ryueQPTihu

Deadname documentary: https://www.deadnamedocumentary.com/

Lesbian Julia Beck speaks at the Heritage Foundation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_l1DoUXAdH0&ab_channel=TheHeritageFoundation

2019 Heritage Foundation panel The Inequality of the Equality Act: Concerns from the Left: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMj9MOuRswc&t=0s&ab_channel=TheHeritageFoundation

WRONG BODIES by Skirt Go Spinny: https://x.com/wrongbodies/status/1811125941541687316

Jesus Christ Superstar - Simon Zealotes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOMgCUcmJkI&ab_channel=MishaTsiklauri

Facing East by Frederica Mathews-Green: https://www.harpercollins.com/products/facing-east-frederica-mathewes-green

Owen Cyclops: https://owencyclops.com/about/

We Are Repaganizing by Louise Perry: https://www.firstthings.com/article/2023/10/we-are-repaganizing

DOMINION by Tom Holland: https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/tom-holland/dominion/9780465093502/?lens=basic-books

Pamela Paul NYT opinion piece: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/12/opinion/gender-affirming-care-cass-review.html

Mary Daly: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Daly

John 8:31: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%208%3A31-32&version=ESV

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The Age of Bourgeois Guilt with Gary Saul Morson

Corinna Cohn — Fri, 26 Jul 2024 20:21:58 GMT

Before White Guilt afflicted American liberals, the Russian intelligentsia set a precedent of their own. Famous professor of Russian literature Gary Saul Morson joins the Dorx to talk about Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn’s literary masterpiece The Gulag Archipelago, which leads to so much more: the self-hatred of educated people; political orthodoxy; peer monitoring; doublethink; whether consciously telling falsehoods is lying; neurodivergence; literary appropriation; terrorism as a career path; the charisma of ruthlessness; and Nina’s fetish for shoe polish. Solzhenitsyn saw the US heading in the same direction as Soviet Russia, and if you listen to this episode you might too.

Links:

Prof. Gary Saul Morson: https://slavic.northwestern.edu/people/faculty/morson-gary-saul.html

The Masterpiece of Our Time: on The Gulag Archipelago at 50: https://newcriterion.com/article/the-masterpiece-of-our-time/

Morning After the Revolution by Nellie Bowles: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/678113/morning-after-the-revolution-by-nellie-bowles/

The Age of White Guilt by Shelby Steele: https://www.cir-usa.org/2002/11/the-age-of-white-guilt-and-the-disappearance-of-the-black-individual/

Mosaic of Minds blog: https://mosaicofmindss.substack.com/

Living My Life by Emma Goldman: https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/emma-goldman-living-my-life

The God That Failed: https://chinhnghia.com/the-god-that-failed.pdf

Wonder Confronts Certainty by Gary Saul Morson: https://www.hup.harvard.edu/books/9780674971806

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No More Mrs. Nice Guy with Candice Jackson

Corinna Cohn — Mon, 15 Jul 2024 21:45:26 GMT

Proud Heterodork and super-smart lawyer Candice Jackson is so done dispensing with niceties. Returning 2 years after our first interview, she lays out how gender identity erases sex, skepticism of “third spaces,” obstacles in classifying gender ideology as a religion, what the Legislative and Executive branches of the US government are supposed to be doing, how modern modern “identity” is dissociated from the material world, the abuse and social contagion of suicide threats, the limits of compassion, and our collective need to return to reality and objectivity. Corinna is sarcastic as always, Nina milks our running gag about genocide-by-pronoun, and our discussion of the upcoming presidential election is already dated. Lots of interesting and provocative ideas in this one!

Links:

Candice Jackson on Twitter: https://twitter.com/CEJacksonLaw

Our 2022 Candice Jackson interview: https://www.heterodorx.com/podcast/episode-62-gender-government-and-law-with-candice-jackson/

Corinna addresses a father who transitioned his toddler: https://x.com/heterodorx/status/1793276150271140212

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Armed and Gay and Running for President with Chase Oliver

Corinna Cohn — Thu, 04 Jul 2024 13:00:29 GMT

Libertarian Party candidate for US President Chase Oliver forced a runoff election in Georgia in 2022, is a former Democrat, loves guns, hates taxes, was disappointed in Obama, is the first openly gay presidential candidate on most ballots, is dyslexic and dysgraphic, likes audiobooks, would like to weaken the office of President, will be 39 in August, wants government out of education (and pretty much everything else), supports the harm reduction model of addition management, implies free market will solve everything, and sounds like a politician. Cori earnestly tries to convince Oliver of the problems of medicalizing “trans kids”; Nina pleads for protections for individuals and asks if Pacifism is a luxury belief; and our interview is briefly interrupted by a power outage.

This is the first in our series of Heterodorx Interviews With US Presidential Candidates. We’re waiting for the Trump and Biden campaigns to get in touch so we can finish.

Links:

Find Chase @chaseforliberty on all major social media platforms

Chase Oliver website: https://www.votechaseoliver.com/

Chase Oliver 2024 Explained - Illustrate to Educate video: https://youtu.be/pGh2cYIPWsI?si=4xDXcoiqb6z4z_oI

Against Intellectual Property by Stephan Kinsella: https://mises.org/library/book/against-intellectual-property

Our Stephan Kinsella episode: https://www.heterodorx.com/podcast/episode-10-i-p-everywhere-featuring-guest-heterodork-stephan-kinsella/

Nina’s IndyGoGo canceling: https://blog.ninapaley.com/2023/01/06/indiegogo-cancels-agents-of-h-a-g/

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Ideology Obscuring Orientation with Jules Louise

Corinna Cohn — Thu, 27 Jun 2024 14:57:12 GMT

Jules Louise was same-sex attracted, but more importantly she wanted to be a Good Person and “safe space for others” — so wound up married to a man. How did that happen? In this nuanced, heartfelt, and open conversation, Jules recalls her indoctrination into an ideology which destabilized her understanding of the world and herself, and her later emergence, along with that of her husband, detransitioned autogynephile Ray Alex Williams. We discuss Social Justice Camp, the Five Isms, hormones, polyamory, crossdressing vs dressing in crosses, internalized homophobia, Marxist Feminist analysis, the importance of material reality, phenomena, reconceptualizing vulnerability, and leaving the cult of gender for the cult of Taylor Swift. Plus: Cori correctly guesses the sex of a “they,” Nina is a cruel and horrible person who will never be invited to dinner at some people’s houses, and a proposed TERF-Tranny Christmas in July!

Links:

Our Ray Alex Williams episode: https://www.heterodorx.com/podcast/episode-121-unblinded-by-the-light-with-ray-alex-williams/

Gender: A Wider Lens: https://www.widerlenspod.com/

Phenomena: https://youtu.be/Dnk0Be4a0aw?si=n-Q4Au7QE8_i1eqy

Our Jamie Reed episode: https://www.heterodorx.com/podcast/episode-126-mitigating-the-damage-with-jamie-reed/

Nina’s Sex-Pozzie Memoirs: https://4w.pub/sex-pos-memoirs/

The Man Who Would Be Queen by Michael Bailey (free PDF): https://faculty.wcas.northwestern.edu/JMichael-Bailey/TMWWBQ.pdf

Caliban and the Witch by Silvia Federici: https://www.akpress.org/calibanandthewitch.html

The Lesbian Heresy: a Feminist Perspective by Sheila Jeffreys: https://sheila-jeffreys.com/book/the-lesbian-heresy-a-feminist-perspective/

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The Gospel of Disenchantment with Corinna and Nina

Corinna Cohn — Mon, 17 Jun 2024 01:44:31 GMT

Cori and Nina visit Saint Mary-of-the-Woods and witness several miracles, including light tailwinds both directions of Nina's 168-mile bike trip, not having to play Spirit Island, and an epiphany or two while praying the rosary. Will Cori minister to the trannies? Is Nina distinguishable from a Sister of Providence? Have you heard the Good News about Reality? An impromptu recording we just made while catching up this afternoon. Oh yeah there were alpacas there!

Link:

Death Before Detransition: https://corinnacohn.substack.com/p/death-before-detransition-yes

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Man of Steele with Eli Steele

Corinna Cohn — Thu, 13 Jun 2024 13:19:30 GMT

Eli Steele’s documentaries challenge narratives favored by guilty white liberals such as Nina before she got ejected from her own tribe. His latest, Killing America, connects the demise of honors classes and other merit incentives in US schools, with the rise of “liberation ideologies,” antisemitism, and the erasure of history. We discuss The Age of White Guilt by Eli’s father, Shelby Steele; feminism; indulgences; fraudulent copyright claims; Hamas; Israel; sandworms; alternative film distribution; and Jews on Pluto. Born profoundly deaf, Steele has a “deaf accent” that may require extra attention to understand, but his ideas are unusually clear.

Links:

What killed Michael Brown: https://whatkilledmichaelbrown.com/

Killing America: https://x.com/Hebro_Steele/status/1776396571699294718?lang=en

The Age of White Guilt: https://blog.ninapaley.com/2019/08/18/the-age-of-white-guilt-and-the-disappearance-of-the-black-individual-by-shelby-steele/

Sita Sings the Blues: https://www.sitasingstheblues.com/watch.html

Man of Steele Productions: https://www.manofsteeleproductions.com/

Internet Archive: https://archive.org/

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Palestinian Heterodoxy with John Aziz

Corinna Cohn — Mon, 27 May 2024 23:20:08 GMT

British-Palestinian writer and analyst John Aziz joins the Dorx to repeat his wacky, out-there thesis: Israelis are not going anywhere, Palestinians are not going anywhere, both groups have legitimate claims to the land, and both must forge a realistic future of peace. This is unfortunately controversial. Aziz emphasizes Israel is not Vietnam or Afghanistan; offers a definition of Zionism; critiques Israel’s military actions; asserts violent video games can reduce street violence; and is gratifyingly impressed to learn Nina made the animated musical short This Land Is Mine. Plus tunnels, elevated highways, October 7th, Hamas, social contagion, identical tents, antisemitism, two goats on a land bridge, and more!

Links:

John Aziz on Twitter: https://x.com/aziz0nomics

Andy the Antizionist Heterodorx episode: https://www.heterodorx.com/podcast/episode-115-ask-an-anti-zionist-with-andy-the-anti-zionist/

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Is Brianna Wu Based? Part Two

Corinna Cohn — Fri, 10 May 2024 21:04:29 GMT

Is the ⁠video game developer⁠, computer programmer, ⁠GamerGate⁠ veteran, and ⁠aspiring politician⁠ “based” for ⁠recent statements⁠ against antisemitism? To find out, the Dorx invited Wu for an interview that lasted 2-and-a-half hours and is therefore broken into two parts.

PART TWO:

An increasingly contentious discussion of Jesse Singal, journalistic standards, changing sex, allies, public policies that are cruel to trans people, identity, dehumanization, tolerance, prejudice, the N-word, swastika flags, fringe opinions, cognitive dissonance, cancellation, and the value of trans experience. It’s a long listen, but we think this episode gives a definitive answer to the title question.

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Is Brianna Wu Based? Part One

Corinna Cohn — Fri, 10 May 2024 21:01:13 GMT

Is the video game developer, computer programmer, GamerGate veteran, and aspiring politician “based” for recent statements against antisemitism? To find out, the Dorx invited Wu for an interview that lasted 2-and-a-half hours and is therefore broken into two parts.

PART ONE:

A friendly conversation about eyebrows, makeup, Zionism, antisemitism, GamerGate, WPATH standards, trans civil rights, binary vs. nonbinary, philosophical questions, the TERF-Tranny Alliance, JK Rowling, holocaust denial, India Willoughby, illiberalism, Media Matters, and the Harry S Benjamin Standards of Care.

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Butching It Up with Nina and Corinna

Corinna Cohn — Mon, 06 May 2024 22:32:57 GMT

It would take a butcher to butch up Corinna enough to satisfy those clamoring for his detransition. Fresh from the UnSpeakeasy retreat in Louisville, the Dorx also discuss the Kohein priestly caste, street work, rimshots, shock collars, and Pronoun Ripple ice cream. Is Cori a homunculus dressed in a woman suit? How many cavities does he have? Does wearing lumberjack clothes make you a lumberjack? Can we achieve peace in the Middle East by blocking traffic in the US? Listen to this exceptionally casual episode to find out the answers, most of which are “no”.

Links:

The Lumberjack Song: https://youtu.be/FshU58nI0Ts?si=vVwQniymDpk_udP4

The UnSpeakeasy: https://www.theunspeakeasy.com/retreats

Belissa Cohen on Corinna Cohn: https://twitter.com/search?q=%22Corinna%22%20(from%3ABelissaCohen)&src=typed_query&f=live

Camp Trans: https://afterellen.com/setting-the-record-straight-about-michfest/

Urbana IL citizens push for city resolution for ceasefire in Palestine: https://www.news-gazette.com/news/after-70-speakers-are-heard-from-urbana-aldermen-pass-revised-gaza-resolution-receive-standing-ovation/article_ad04334c-f8fe-567f-a038-04aa53cdfbc7.html

This Land Is Mine: https://youtu.be/8tIdCsMufIY?si=SgipauO73mibAzKZ

Seder-Masochism: https://sedermasochism.com/download/

Gender and Nina’s local bike club: https://blog.ninapaley.com/2022/03/21/cycling-and-gender-intersect-in-meaningful-ways/

The Milgram Experiment: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment

Aaaron Kimberly, Alice Dreger, Alex Byrne, Holly Lawford-Smith debate: Is Sex Binary? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoT_ayxjXpg&ab_channel=MITFreeSpeechAlliance

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A Light Unto the School Districts with Dr. Tabia Lee

Corinna Cohn — Mon, 29 Apr 2024 14:08:16 GMT

What happens when an inquisitive, naturally hopeful, critical-thinking civics-oriented teacher educator gets a position in an Office of Equity, Social Justice, and Multicultural Education? She gets fired for not being "the right kind of Black person", and then speaks out about it while developing better alternatives for schools. Dr. tabia lee joins the Dorx to discuss travel, authenticity, finding pride in America, critical Social Justice, racial affinity groups, “white oppressors,” DEI gangsters, infighting, bad journalism, calling in vs. calling out, emotional reasoning, pronouns, sparklefun, purple hair, and living in a dystopian science-fiction timeline. Listeners will also be treated to optimism, good humor, and multiple Hollywood-style false endings!

Links:

Tabia Lee on Twitter: https://twitter.com/11Drtlee11

DEI College Director Fired for Not Being ‘Right Kind of Black Person’: https://www.newsweek.com/dei-college-director-fired-not-being-right-kind-black-person-1813481

Free Black Thought: https://freeblackthought.com/voices/dr-tabia-lee

Do No Harm: https://donoharmmedicine.org/

Dr. t lee Educational Consultancy: http://www.drtlee.solutions/services.html

Coalition for Empowered Education: https://empowered-ed.org/about-us/

Paolo Freire: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paulo_Freire

ELIZA: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA

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California Nightmares with Beth Bourne

Corinna Cohn — Thu, 18 Apr 2024 00:31:11 GMT

Beth Bourne is a lifelong Democrat, mother of an estranged trans-identified daughter, and model of courage in the belly of the beast that is the Golden State. After years of receiving slow and inattentive medical service, she told Kaiser Permanente she identified as non-binary and suddenly had speedy access to attention, validation, and any “gender-affirming care” their zealous trans-identified doctors could dream up: cross-sex hormones, double mastectomy, nipple grafts, body contouring, total hysterectomy, phalloplasty, and more! All at rock-bottom co-pays and fast-tracked by cooperative “therapists.” It’s the stuff of nightmares, and that’s before getting into her loss of friends, demonization by the local press, and a restraining order from her kid’s school. From Davis to Redwood City to trans/human-trafficker "sanctuary city” Sacramento, Beth’s story is as inspiring as it is harrowing.

Links:

“I Pretended to be ‘Nonbinary’ To Expose A Medical Scandal at Kaiser Permanente”: https://www.realityslaststand.com/p/i-pretended-to-be-nonbinary-to-expose

Beth Bourne on Twitter: https://twitter.com/bourne_beth2345

DIAG: Democrats for an Informed Approach to Gender: https://www.di-ag.org/

Moms for Liberty: https://www.momsforliberty.org/

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Structure and Coherence with J.D. Haltigan

Corinna Cohn — Fri, 05 Apr 2024 01:01:21 GMT

Independent Scientist and emerging public intellectual J.D. Haltigan left academia for a life of forced leisure and blue-collar employment, but he’d rather pursue his passion for psychological research at an institution. He joins the Dorx to discuss Covid masking, psychopathology, bike helmets, denial of death, the neurotic anxious failure to develop identity, attachment theory, gender and co-morbid mental illness, the perversion of the caregiving instinct, limit-setting, ideological capture, Social-Emotional Learning as a proxy for parenting, mama bears, religion, pseudoreligion, the narcissism of “rescuers”, and the upcoming detransition contagion. Did we miss anything? Hopefully this episode will provide listeners with enough structure to construct a coherent narrative of life; if not, well, go outside and touch grass.

Links:

J.D. on twitter: https://twitter.com/JDHaltigan

J.D.’s substack: https://www.jdhaltigan.com/

J.D. Haltigan on The Denial of Death by Ernest Becker: https://www.jdhaltigan.com/p/reflections-on-beckers-the-denial?utm_source=twitter&sd=pf

Lionel Shriver writes about Corrie Cohn: https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/children-need-protection-from-adult-madness/

Abigail Shrier’s Bad Therapy: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/716567/bad-therapy-by-abigail-shrier/

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“A Path to Inclusion” with Cyd Zeigler

Corinna Cohn — Thu, 28 Mar 2024 15:41:37 GMT

Cyd Zeigler started OutSports in 1999, gradually shifting focus from “pro sports from a gay men’s fandom angle” to all things LGBTQ++, including trans athletes. He joins the Dorx to argue for inclusion of male trans athletes in female categories. From chess to football, Zeigler believes every sport can and should be treated differently; that sex categories open up opportunities; and that both sides point to Title IX as the reason they’re right. Nina pushes back on safety; Corinna introduces the idea of locus of control; and everyone agrees more data is needed. Despite an unfortunate technical error that ends the game early (that’s what happens when your tech support is an alpaca), Zeigler remains sportsmanlike throughout.

Links:

Outsports: https://www.outsports.com/

Renee Richards: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ren%C3%A9e_Richards

Nancy Hogshead-Makar: https://championwomen.org/meet-nancy-hogshead-makar/

Colin Wright explains sex categories: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4WV9xv62f4&ab_channel=Genspect

rainbow hockey tape ban: https://www.outsports.com/2023/10/24/23930391/nhl-reverses-pride-tape-ban-players-gay-lgbtq/

Colin Kaepernick kneeling: https://apnews.com/article/f9bbe38b748072531b07713736409181

Megan Rapinoe kneeling: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2663982-megan-rapinoe-kneels-during-national-anthem-before-usa-vs-thailand

ICONS Women In Sports conference 2023: https://www.iconswomen.com/2023-international-womens-sports-summit/

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Autoandrophilia with Aaron Terrell

Corinna Cohn — Wed, 20 Mar 2024 01:57:58 GMT

After Nina welcomes self-described autoandrophile and pervert advocate Aaron “The Contraaron” Terrell with a deliberate misgendering, the two adult human females discuss male sexuality while actual male Corinna mostly bites his tongue. Topics include Terrell’s surprising shift from hetero- to homosexuality on exogenous testosterone, pretty privilege, internet porn, eating disorders, autogynephobia, fertility signals, sexual dimorphism, pseudo-attraction, political religion, autism, twitter kerfuffles, and enforcement of the purity of the word “lesbian.” Terrell not only has the most lesbian cred of the three (female with a female partner) but also the most testosterone! This episode offers more than enough to offend everyone.

Links:

Aaron on Twitter: https://twitter.com/elegationvain

I enjoy Being a Girl (an autogynephile anthem): https://youtu.be/LtQBrShqgls?si=G5-KicuUvKxmlEzf&t=42

Jamie Reed episode: https://www.heterodorx.com/podcast/episode-126-mitigating-the-damage-with-jamie-reed/

Joe Burgo on Autogynephilia as Psychic Retreat: https://www.realityslaststand.com/p/sympathy-for-the-devil-autogynephilia

J Michael Bailey episode: https://www.heterodorx.com/podcast/episode-53-autogynephilia-michael-bailey/

Transparency podcast: https://www.genderdysphoriaalliance.com/podcast

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Taking Action with Ellen Daehnick

Corinna Cohn — Sat, 09 Mar 2024 18:01:59 GMT

When Things need to get done, it’s people like Ellen Daehnick who do them. Daehnick recently retired from her high-powered career to become a full-time “Unpaid Gender Crank”, focusing on legislation. She describes her first time testifying to the Colorado state legislature against CO House Bill 1071, which welcomes felons to change their legal names as long as they claim a trans identity. More of this remarkable hearing, described as “bananas” by audio editor Lisa Jones, can be found here. We discuss how to prepare for effective testimony, why female politicians support policies that harm women, selective empathy, toxic femininity, class, chiggers, and appeals to emotion vs facts. “Deadnaming,” “misgendering” and “mentioning the criminal record of an individual” may be verboten in the Colorado Statehouse, but the real genocide is the friends we made along the way.

Ellen Daehnick on twitter: https://twitter.com/edaehnick

Daehnick’s email: genderwatchco@gmail.com

Audio Recap of CO HB 24-1071 "The Felon Name-Change Bill" by Lisa Jones: https://www.thatlisajones.com/new-kinda-colorado-crazy/

Colorado House Bill 24-1071: https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/hb24-1071

Christina Goeke kicked out of Colorado Statehouse: https://twitter.com/goeke_christina/status/1752490704020881694

Tiara/Duane Kelley: https://www.thepublica.com/transgender-drag-queen-who-inspired-bill-to-make-name-changes-easier-for-trans-felons-in-colorado-has-lengthy-criminal-record/

DIAG: Democrats for an Informed Approach to Gender: https://www.di-ag.org/

Corinna’s talk “Political Organizing in America” at Genspect Denver 2023: https://youtu.be/5VpOhM7PXco?si=gTOu9FtmarVgKLLF

Nina’s Quilt Suite: https://www.airbnb.com/h/quiltsuite

Illinois HB 4876: https://www.ilga.gov/legislation/BillStatus.asp?DocNum=4876&GAID=17&DocTypeID=HB&LegId=152735&SessionID=112&GA=103

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Mitigating the Damage with Jamie Reed

Corinna Cohn — Fri, 01 Mar 2024 16:09:01 GMT

Last year, case manager Jamie Reed blew the whistle on the gender clinic that had employed her for almost four years. Today, she faces an even more frightening challenge: being a guest on the Heterodorx podcast. Jamie’s impeccable lefty credentials never prepared her for Corinna’s relentless sarcasm, let alone what she witnessed in the medical system: clueless endocrinologists, children making lifelong decisions about their fertility, untreated eating disorders, ignored red flags, young patients entering sex work, TikTok tics, medical harms, repeated “never events,” and the medical abandonment of detransitioners. We also discuss the personal and professional costs borne by whistleblowers, double standards in the press, alpacas (again), and Corinna’s geriatric cat. Jamie reminds us, “we are all broken"; Corinna reminds us, “give your gay money to Jamie.”

Links:

Jamie on Twitter: https://twitter.com/JamieWhistle

“I Thought I was Saving Trans Kids. Now I’m Blowing the Whistle.” Jamie Reed’s Free Press story: https://www.thefp.com/p/i-thought-i-was-saving-trans-kids

Alberta Premier Danielle Smith introduces new gender policies: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/danielle-smith-1.7101595

Washington State whistleblower Tamara Pietzke: https://www.thefp.com/p/i-was-fired-after-blowing-the-whistle

https://www.thefp.com/p/i-refused-to-approve-all-teen-gender-transitions

LGBT Courage Coalition: https://www.lgbtcourage.org/

LGBT Courage Coalition Substack substack: https://lgbtcouragecoalition.substack.com/

Guns Germs and Steel by Jared Diamond: https://www.amazon.com/Guns-Germs-Steel-Fates-Societies/dp/0393317552

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TERF-Tranny Alliances with Eva Kurilova and Lois Cardinal

Corinna Cohn — Sat, 24 Feb 2024 22:22:29 GMT

Canada is not merely America’s Hat; it’s also home to Eva Kurilova and Lois Cardinal, a TERF-Tranny duo rivaling the Heterodorx in both hardliner contempt and world domination. We discuss womanface, tribal identities, the sterilization of First Nations youth, aging, Feminized Eunuch Males (FEMs), Medical Assistance In Dying (MAID), do-it-yourself genocide, “tru trans”, matching costumes, coerced speech, pronouns, Tide suppositories, and dubious hygiene tips. Who is the fairest handmaiden/pet troon of them all? Listen and find out!

Links:

Eva Kurilova’s Substack: https://www.evakurilova.com/

Eva on twitter: https://twitter.com/eva_kurilova

Lois on twitter: https://twitter.com/duchess_elle

Reduxx: https://reduxx.info/author/evak/

The Distance: https://www.thedistancemag.com/

Gender Dissent: https://www.genderdissent.com/

Spinster: spinster.xyz

TERF-Tranny Alliance: https://www.heterodorx.com/terftrannyalliance/

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Safeguarding, Lesbophobia, and DARVO

Corinna Cohn — Thu, 15 Feb 2024 15:21:20 GMT

Corinna and Nina rant and complain about the current “Gender Critical” online discourse. What is a lesbian? Is Corinna gay, or homosexual? Is DARVO a floor wax, or a dessert topping? Although we perpetuate the problem by talking about it, by the end we propose a solution. You’ll hear lots of misgendering, talk of Nina’s sex-pozzie San Francisco days (again, sorry), and references to IQ points. You won’t hear our usual intro and outro, because Nina had to edit this one while Corinna left town and couldn’t send the files.

Links:

“Stella O’Malley on Lesbians”: https://twitter.com/iseult/status/1756099230236573970

The Lesbian Heresy by Sheila Jeffreys: https://archive.org/details/lesbianheresyfem0000jeff

Sex is real, people are weird: https://www.heterodorx.com/terftrannyalliance/

Our die-in meme: https://twitter.com/ninapaley/status/1757068677910831464

Andrew Doyle: Reflections on the Online Mob: https://andrewdoyle.substack.com/p/reflections-on-the-online-mob

Nina tries to school a teacher about pronouns: https://twitter.com/ninapaley/status/1750896492930339257

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Alpacne! with Jennifer Lahl

Corinna Cohn — Wed, 07 Feb 2024 16:10:32 GMT

Filmmaker and former pediatric nurse Jennifer Lahl's latest short documentary, The Lost Boys: Searching for Manhood, focuses on male detransitioners. We discuss film distribution, the festival circuit, crowdfunding, straight-to-online, subtitles (“How do you say ‘chopped off his penis’ in Spanish?”), the obsolescence of DVDs, Jennifer’s ex-boyfriend from her nursing school days, “trans healthcare”, the Crying Chicken Lady who says children should be driving, and Corinna’s search for teen alpacahood. Lahl alleges this is her last film (we don’t believe her) so watch it online for free right now.

Links:

The Center for Bioethics and Culture Network: https://cbc-network.org/

The Lost Boys: Searching for Manhood https://youtu.be/AaiicS2HXW4?si=3CKcnEQIovXsHlQm

The Detransition Diaries: Saving Our Sisters https://youtu.be/910JVOJSM2I?si=KE4_kz_a1iWc9EY3

Trans Mission: What’s the Rush to Reassign Gender? https://youtu.be/rUeqEoARKOA?si=zdPYT_4V-T-JF3e4

Jennifer Lahl on Twitter: https://twitter.com/JenniferLahl

Heterodorx’s Ray Alex Williams episode: https://www.heterodorx.com/podcast/episode-121-unblinded-by-the-light-with-ray-alex-williams/

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Welcome to the Gender Wars, Dr. Gary Francione!

Corinna Cohn — Sun, 28 Jan 2024 22:34:48 GMT

After Corinna complains about an obnoxious and possibly libelous article in the Washington Post, the Dorx welcome legal scholar, philosopher, vegan, and animal rights activist Dr. Gary Francione. We discuss Equality Claims vs Belief Claims, old-school transsexuals, admitting you’re wrong, Andrea Dworkin, nonviolence, intersectionality, and the principles of a liberal pluralistic society. Can we police fetishes? Who’s Afraid of Kathleen Stock? Why are vegans extra crazy? Does Corinna really not want to be a Good Person? What is “harm”? Despite Corinna disparaging young people going vegan, and Nina swearing a lot about Crohn’s disease, Dr. Francione offers a banquet of (plant-based) food for thought.

Links

Gary Francione’s website: https://www.abolitionistapproach.com/

Gary Francione’s essay on the Trans Rights Issue: https://www.abolitionistapproach.com/the-trans-rights-issue-equality-claims-and-belief-claims/

Julie Bindel: The Unforgivable Transing of Andrea Dworkin https://juliebindel.substack.com/p/the-unforgivable-transing-of-andrea

Why Veganism Matters: The Moral Value of Animals by Gary Francione https://cup.columbia.edu/book/why-veganism-matters/9780231199612

Nina’s Gender Wars playing cards: https://store.ninapaley.com/product/gender-wars-playing-cards/

How Do I Go Vegan https://www.howdoigovegan.com/

Nina and Corinna will be guests at the Unspeakeasy retreat in Louisville, KY April 9-10! It’s for women only, even though Corinna isn’t one! Sign up and ask what organizer/host Meghan Daum was thinking: https://www.theunspeakeasy.com/2024-unspeakeasy-retreats

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Unblinded by the Light with Ray Alex Williams

Corinna Cohn — Thu, 18 Jan 2024 21:30:04 GMT

For 8 years, Ray Alex Williams claimed to be a woman, zealously promoting transgender ideology, ingesting spirolactone and exogenous estrogen, doing "a lot of twitter activism,” and writing a book about trans philosophy. In May 2023 he socially and medically detransitioned, issuing public apologies shortly thereafter. How did “Rachel Anne Williams” — who just a few years ago was so “unhinged” he made Grace Lavery “readable” in comparison — become the lucid, humble, reality-based man we hear in this interview? Listen up, because his story is jam-packed with insights.

Links:

Ray Alex Williams on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RayAlexWilliams/

Ray Alex Williams on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@RayAlexWilliams

Rachel Anne Williams takes on Kathleen Stock in 2019: https://www.peaktrans.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/ThreadReader_0_transphilosophr_1132859653006680064-1.pdf

Commentary on Rachel Anne Williams taking on Kathleen Stock in 2019: https://www.peaktrans.org/a-response-to-a-response-to-doing-better-in-arguments-about-sex-gender-and-trans-rights/#more-7728

Ray Alex Williams apologizes in 2023: https://twitter.com/RayAlexWilliams/status/1735629670618399092

Transgressive: A Trans Woman on Gender, Feminism, and Politics by Rachel Anne Williams (before detransitioning to Ray Alex Williams): https://www.amazon.com/Transgressive-Trans-Gender-Feminism-Politics/dp/1785926470

Cultish: The Language of Fanaticism by Amanda Montell https://www.harpercollins.com/products/cultish-amanda-montell

Rob Henderson on Luxury Beliefs: https://www.robkhenderson.com/p/status-symbols-and-the-struggle-for

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Rosie Kay Believes in The Power of the Arts

Corinna Cohn — Mon, 08 Jan 2024 00:31:14 GMT

Rosie Kay is a dancer, choreographer, “old-school feminist”, and co-founder of Freedom In The Arts in the UK. Both cancelled and resurrected, she’s also a fascinating and articulate speaker. She joined the Dorx back in November to talk about dance, brains, arts organizations, making controversial work, the “theater of dehumanization,” liberal values and their discontents, artificial intelligence, Choreography 101, pattern recognition, awkwardness, the decline of physical culture, disembodiment, COVID, dance vs. visual art, arts education, physical education, soldiering, tennis, walking, cycling, and the taboo of excellence. It took us a while to release this episode because at least one of us was paralyzed in a winter slough of despond, but it was worth the wait.

Links:

Adult Female Dancer by Rosie Kay: https://youtu.be/1BJvbsnCEB8?si=sx7m3AyOo5REJTI7

Rosie Kay's dance company K2Co: https://k-2co.com/

Freedom in the Arts: https://www.freedominthearts.com/

The Man Wearing The Blue Dress at Genspect: https://shannonthrace.substack.com/p/genspect-and-agpgate

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Esprit de Corpse

Corinna Cohn — Fri, 08 Dec 2023 16:04:01 GMT

Corinna and Nina poke at the dead body of the Gender Critical Movement. Cause of death? Illiberalism, revulsion, femagoguery, the narcissism of small differences, group polarization, junior high social dynamics, Calvinism, puritanism, gaslighting, victimhood as currency, and so much more. Plus, Nina gets diagnosed with Crohn’s disease. Where will the Dorx go from here? Wherever it may be, we’ll walk you there, for your own safety.

Links:

Revulsion Revolution: The Protective Power of Disgust by Amy Sousa: https://www.theknownheretic.com/p/revulsion-revolution-the-protective

The Art Coop (rhymes with “poop”): https://www.news-gazette.com/opinion/columns/jim-dey-terf-battle-in-urbana-averted/article_cdf7ecd4-2e0d-5759-84b7-fbbe653de2a5.html

Corinna pisses off everyone on Twitter: https://twitter.com/heterodorx/status/1732028270831440264

ICONS: https://www.iconswomen.com/

Sex Matters: https://sex-matters.org/

National Women’s Law Center president Fatima Goss Graves hopes women learn to lose gracefully: https://twitter.com/greg_price11/status/1732142697425572018

The Identity Trap by Yascha Mounk: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/712961/the-identity-trap-by-yascha-mounk/

Stella O’Malley and Kellie-Jay Keen on Benjamin Boyce: https://youtu.be/OqG2gYvXm9A?si=oCis3LDOgWepe-JN

JK Rowling says “dress however you please”: https://twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1207646162813100033

Nina dresses like a man: https://twitter.com/ninapaley/status/1725174605101326781/photo/1

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Librarians Losing Their Spine, with Penny Hummel

Corinna Cohn — Mon, 20 Nov 2023 00:26:54 GMT

Librarians once stood for intellectual freedom and access to information, but today many prefer to suppress speech and intellectual diversity for the sake of a misguided concept of "social justice". One Davis, California library recently violated the First Amendment when they ejected a group of women discussing male athletes in female sports. Collections and programs are regularly distorted and compromised by ideologue librarians, while those watching in dismay fear to speak. Library consultant and advocate Penny Hummel breaks the silence to tell the Dorx what’s really happening in America’s libraries.

Links:

Penny Hummel on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BeeWeave

FIRE article on Davis library violating First Amendment: https://www.thefire.org/news/california-library-violates-first-amendment-boots-speakers-referring-transgender-women

FIRE’s letter to Yolo County Library: https://www.thefire.org/research-learn/fire-letter-yolo-county-library-august-24-2023

ALA Webinar, "Transgender People In Libraries": https://elearning.ala.org/local/catalog/view/product.php?productid=1005

Does Sex Matter? panel at the Urbana Free Library, 2019: https://blog.ninapaley.com/2019/03/26/q-and-a-from-the-does-sex-matter-panel/

I Am Jazz: https://socialjusticebooks.org/i-am-jazz/

My Body Is Me by Rachel Rooney: https://www.transgendertrend.com/product/my-body-is-me/

Irreversible Damage by Abigail Shrier: https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/irreversible-damage-abigail-shrier/1133754701

Gender Queer by Maia Kobabe: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Gender-Queer-A-Memoir/Maia-Kobabe/9781549304002

“NO TERFS”: https://www.news-gazette.com/opinion/columns/jim-dey-terf-battle-in-urbana-averted/article_cdf7ecd4-2e0d-5759-84b7-fbbe653de2a5.html

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Ladies' Autogynephilia Chat with Shannon Thrace

Corinna Cohn — Tue, 14 Nov 2023 00:09:24 GMT

Shannon Thrace is a "transwidow" and author of the must-read novel Eighteen Months: A Memoir of a Marriage Lost to Gender Identity. She joins handmaiden pick-me tranny-lover Nina for a women’s-only talk about AUTOGYNEPHILIA, the cause célèbre currently ripping apart the TERFosphere. Is this about safeguarding and holding women’s boundaries, or is it tribal signaling? Why is it OK for David Bowie to crossdress, but not Phil Illy? Should there be different crossdressing rules for men and women? Who gets to make those rules? Where do we draw our lines? Did Nina wade into a morass or a cesspool? These are questions without definitive answers, except one: Where is Corinna? Answer: at work today, so Nina recorded and edited this episode alone.

Links:

Shannon Thrace’s essay, Genspect and AGPgate: https://shannonthrace.substack.com/p/genspect-and-agpgate

Nina’s Art Coop "NO TERFS" sign complaint: https://www.news-gazette.com/opinion/columns/jim-dey-terf-battle-in-urbana-averted/article_cdf7ecd4-2e0d-5759-84b7-fbbe653de2a5.html

Genspect Denver conference: https://genspect.org/the-bigger-picture-continues-denver-colorado/

Phil Illy: https://substack.com/profile/109324793-phil-illy

This Jungian Life: Aaron Balick - Why Does Social Media Weaponize Our Reactions? https://thisjungianlife.com/aaron_balick/

Laura Becker/Funk God: https://www.funkgod.com/

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"Ask a Zionist" with Rabbi Jonathan Greenberg

Corinna Cohn — Tue, 31 Oct 2023 17:31:55 GMT

After last weeks “Ask an Anti-Zionist,” the Dorx return to Ask a Zionist, Rabbi Jonathan Greenberg. What is a Zionist? Answer: “A person who believes that the Jews have a right to self-determination and self-protection in the ancient land of Israel,” which he says is the historical, original, biblical, literal Jewish homeland. Greenberg does not suffer discomfort with power and moral complexity. He reminds us every conceivable solution to “one of the most intractable conflicts on earth” has already been argued, and there is nothing new under the sun. “In every generation, they rise against us to destroy us.” Greenberg says Jews should arm up; culture matters; the rules of war are outdated; nobody actually cares about the Palestinians; media coverage is biased; history tells you what, philosophy tells you why; and Israel is not a colonial project, it’s a coming home. Nina asks: How will this end? Answer: ???

Links:

Jonathan Greenberg on Twitter: https://twitter.com/JGreenbergSez

Jewish Voice for Peace: https://www.jewishvoiceforpeace.org/

If Not Now: https://www.ifnotnowmovement.org/

Not In Our Name: https://notinourname.net/

Anti-Defamation League: https://www.adl.org/

Peter Beinart: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Beinart

Ze’ev Jabotinsky: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ze%27ev_Jabotinsky

Jewish students barricaded in Cooper Union library: https://nypost.com/2023/10/25/news/cooper-union-barricades-jewish-students-inside-library/

Pro-Palestinian projections on George Washington University library: https://wjla.com/news/local/accusations-of-anti-semitism-on-george-washington-university-campus-after-projection-of-pro-palestinian-messages-student-group-students-for-justice-in-palestine-jewish-israel-hamas-war-dmv-washington-dc-community

The Zionist Idea by Arthur Hertzberg: https://jps.org/books/zionist-idea/

A History of Israel by Howard Sachar: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/159513/a-history-of-israel-by-howard-m-sachar/

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“Ask an Anti-Zionist” with Andy the Anti-Zionist

Corinna Cohn — Thu, 26 Oct 2023 17:58:02 GMT

The Dorx discuss recent events with Nina’s ex-boyfriend, Andy the Anti-Zionist. A first-generation American son of a Palestinian Catholic father, Andy was mistreated on a visit to Israel at age 12 and has avowedly opposed the state ever since. We discuss the importance of history, the rise of anti-semitism, media biases, blame, “terrorists,” who is “the little guy,” what is a woman I mean Zionist, ethnic cleansing, whether Israel’s “intelligence failure” was calculated, “both sides,” utopianism, Queers for Palestine, and our dubious future. Despite our differences, this anti-Zionist, non-Zionist, and Zionist all agree: we’re fucked. Next year in Jerusalem!

Links:

Medinat Weimar (for a Jewish state in Germany): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVGeR4r5hbk&ab_channel=amhaaretz

Samantha Woll, Detroit rabbi stabbed: https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2023/10/21/samantha-woll-dead-isaac-agree-downtown-detroit-synagogue-president/71271616007/

Illinois lawyer’s antisemitic rant: https://twitter.com/StopAntisemites/status/1715216523915071978

Anna Baltzer: http://www.annainthemiddleeast.com/

Illinois Muslim boy stabbed: https://apnews.com/article/muslim-boy-killed-chicago-landlord-will-county-5135dea218326d6e639a996564d9369e

AIPAC: https://www.aipac.org/

Seder-Masochism (Nina’s animated feature film about Jewish identity): https://sedermasochism.com/download/

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The Wrong Sort of Everything with Bev Jackson

Corinna Cohn — Tue, 24 Oct 2023 20:40:22 GMT

Longtime activist and author Bev Jackson is a founding member of the UK Gay Liberation Front and, more recently, co-founder of the Lesbian Gay Bisexual Alliance (LGBA), one the the only organizations standing for homosexual (as opposed to “queer”) rights and the only UK charity supporting truly lesbian events. We discuss the corruption of Wikipedia, the astronomical increase of transing girls, the “born that way” narrative, zealous American politicians, outsourcing opinions, patience for the poorly-informed, boundaries vs inclusivity, pedophilia, Bad Law, medical scandals, and Tunnock’s Teacakes. Plus, Corrrrrri changes his name, and Nina writes a scathing Letter to the Editor. Who’s the queerest of them all? Listen and find out!

Links:

Bev on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BevJacksonAuth

Bev’s email: bev.jackson@lgballiance.org.uk

LGBA website: https://lgballiance.org.uk

Tribunal Transcript (Mermaids vs Charity Commission & LGBA): https://lgballiance.org.uk/tribunal-transcript/

LGBA conference: https://lgballiance.org.uk/tribunal-transcript/

John Boyne apologizes to Graham Linehan: https://twitter.com/JohnBoyneBooks/status/1698830513077694477

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The Darkest Humor

Corinna Cohn — Fri, 13 Oct 2023 16:55:39 GMT

Nina and Corinna — who between them comprise one-and-a-half Jews — discuss recent events in the Middle East, after a brief detour about IP Law and its discontents. We confuse Robert Redford with Paul Newman, compare synagogues and mosques with Starbuck’s and Dunkin’ Donuts, and learn the difference between philo-semites and hebephiles. Then we get dark. Do people hate Jews more than we thought? Does Israel commit atrocities, or military actions? Are young people nihilists? Forgive us, for despite the smoothest segues in podcasting, we know not what we do.

Links:

This Land Is Mine (short animation): https://youtu.be/8tIdCsMufIY?si=ttwMH8SPCxpM0OI2

The Exodus Song: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theme_of_Exodus

Exodus (movie): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exodus_(1960_film)

Seder-Masochism (movie): https://sedermasochism.com/download/

Nina’s Twitter thread about Jews vs Zionists: https://twitter.com/ninapaley/status/1711371708190330934

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The Art of Dissident Feminists with J Berns

Corinna Cohn — Thu, 05 Oct 2023 00:36:34 GMT

A Nasty Piece of Work: The Art of Dissident Feminists is the world’s first and only “TERF” Art show, featuring 14 female artists, all of whom have been canceled due to gender ideology. Its curator and organizer is J. Berns, an activist, mother, art lover, and upstanding badass. She talks about how her gallery was vandalized the day after the show’s successful opening; the difficulties of living in the Bay Area if you hold gender critical views; TERF money; ways women are not allowed their own language; how terrorists increasingly dictate speech; and hot pink blood. Wait until the end for her descriptions of the amazing works in the show, which runs until October 15 in San Francisco, and could even come to a city near you if you help make it happen!

Links:

A Nasty Piece of Work: The Art of Dissident Feminists https://www.accelerationspace.org/

Vandalism of the art show, posted by the vandals themselves: https://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2023/09/17/18858974.php

Women Are Real: https://womenarereal.org/

On Twitter: https://twitter.com/WomenAreReals

WDI: https://www.womensdeclaration.com/en/

Roisin Murphy - Hit Parade: https://roisinmurphy.bandcamp.com/album/hit-parade

Indiegogo cancels Nina: https://blog.ninapaley.com/2023/01/06/indiegogo-cancels-agents-of-h-a-g/

Our Grace Lavery episode: https://www.heterodorx.com/podcast/episode-26-trano-a-trano-with-grace-lavery/

Our Kikomi episode: https://www.heterodorx.com/podcast/episode-55-biotrans-with-kikomi/

Genspect’s conference in Denver: https://genspect.org/the-bigger-picture-continues-denver-colorado/

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Taking The Weird Path with Saya Hillman

Corinna Cohn — Thu, 21 Sep 2023 17:53:32 GMT

Back when this podcast had only 4 listeners, Debbie Hillman of foodfarmsdemocracy.net was one of them. Debbie passed away in March, after which Corinna discovered a 2014 tribute video by her daughter. An interesting character in her own right, Saya Hillman joins the Dorx to talk about her mom, our moms, moms in general, dads, families, estrangement, growing up weird, adulting, fun, entrepreneurship, cleaning, pocket knives, making friends as an adult, silver linings, excess backups, old age, death, and living a fearless life. Learn about a fascinating daughter, a fascinating mother, and, most importantly, that dishwashers have filters that need to be cleaned.

Links:

Saya Hillman reads “If Only My Name Was Alexis”: https://youtu.be/oxijkP9tpAU?si=zHOFkad9yeVABcxS

Mac and Cheese Productions: https://macncheeseproductions.com/

Debbie Hillman's memorial page: https://macncheeseproductions.com/debbie-hillman/

Debbie Hillman’s twitter account: https://twitter.com/DLHillman

Seder-Masochism (featuring Nina’s Dad): https://sedermasochism.com/download/

Does Sex Matter? Gender Identity vs Material Reality, our 2019 panel talk Debbie attended (we think): https://youtu.be/RguD61siLB8?si=4LpIn_zENirTxb49

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Listener Questions!

Corinna Cohn — Mon, 28 Aug 2023 17:42:35 GMT

Corinna and Nina answer your important questions, such as: what is a feminist? Should we be cheerful instead of angry? Who cuts our hair? Boxers or briefs? Is “cis” a slur? We also discuss the TERF-Tranny spectrum; our origins in a state fair livestock exhibit; the social benefits of taboos; Republicans' ability to eff up a sure thing; how social contagions are a force of nature; The Law of Conservation of Evil; iatrogenic infantilization; masculinized women; how 2nd-Wave Feminism is like broccoli; and Corinna’s plans to start microdosing testosterone. It’s truly a broad-ranging conversation, as we cover more territory than a costumed llama!

Links:

Anger is like Rocket Fuel: https://mimiandeunice.com/2010/07/29/rocket-fuel/

Maybe One by Bill McKibben: https://billmckibben.com/maybe-one.html

Twitter poll: Makeup or Hijab?: https://twitter.com/ninapaley/status/1691882332871885285

Beauty and Misogyny by Sheila Jeffreys: https://www.feministes-radicales.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Jeffreys_Beauty_and_Misogyny_Harmful_Cultural_Practices_in_the_West__Women_and_Psychology_1.pdf

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Left Wing Heresy with Lisa Selin Davis

Corinna Cohn — Wed, 23 Aug 2023 15:17:19 GMT

Prolific writer, researcher, thinker, and close personal friend of the Dorx Lisa Selin Davis is an old-school Leftist who developed an “exciting new interest in reality,” subsequently putting her on the wrong side of many a Brooklyn dinner party. We ask: What does it mean to be on the Left? What is Feminism? Do Gender Critics engage in “hugboxing"? How does one remain curious and empathetic while talking to ignorant a-holes? Do Conservative women give fewer effs? Is Corinna wearing “woman-pit”? What is Lisa’s next book about? It’s a party in the rabbit hole as 3 disagreeable friends agree on just about everything.

Links:

Housewife: https://lisaselindavis.substack.com/p/its-time-to-pre-order-my-new-book

Skokie (film): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skokie_(film)

BROADview: https://lisaselindavis.substack.com/

Lisa on Twitter: https://twitter.com/LisaSelinDavis

GENDER WARS Playing Cards: https://store.ninapaley.com/product/gender-wars-playing-cards/

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Heather Brunskell-Evans is (a) TERF*

Corinna Cohn — Tue, 15 Aug 2023 21:07:52 GMT

The delightful and accomplished Dr Heather Brunskell-Evans joins the Dorx on short notice, first to talk about her work with Women’s Declaration International and Transgender Trend, then about her exhaustion with all manner of ideological nonsense, be it from trans rights activists or her “sisters” on the left. Purity spirals, tribal instincts, toxic agreeableness, Munchausen’s mums, disappointments, growing up female, Satan, misogyny, losing faith, and more keep her dancing between fed-up boredom and fierce determination. She may be Tired, but she will keep Explaining Reality until the F***wits listen up!

*TERF: Tired of Explaining Reality to F***wits

Links:

Dr. Heather Brunskell-Evans: https://www.transgendertrend.com/dr-heather-brunskell-evans/

Women’s Declaration International: https://www.womensdeclaration.com/en/about/

Transgender Trend: https://www.transgendertrend.com/

Keira Bell case: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_v_Tavistock

Pride flags on UK hospitals: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/06/05/giant-pride-flag-painted-on-hospital-criticised/

Apocalypse Animated: https://apocalypseanimated.com/

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How the Internet Lost its Backbone, with Joshua Moon

Corinna Cohn — Thu, 03 Aug 2023 19:12:24 GMT

In 1993 John Gilmore famously said, "The Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it.” To learn why that’s no longer true, listen to Josh Moon enumerate “the amount of things that have broken that people in the industry assumed could never break,” as activists with personal vendettas and political agendas relentlessly employ every possible strategy to silence his small but notorious gossip site Kiwi Farms. From Cloudflare to Hurricane Electric, ISPs, data centers, and payment processors, literally anything up and down the Border Gateway Protocol has been targeted to shut down the 'Farms. With ISIS, the KKK, Stormfront, neo-nazis, and child porn all continuing to enjoy online services, who expected “the gossip site that makes fun of troons" to be the straw to break the Internet's backbone? And why have the individuals and organizations who once stood against censorship lost their own?

Links:

Brave browser: https://brave.com/

Tor browser: https://www.torproject.org/download/

Keffals: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keffals

The World Should Not Need Kiwi Farms by Corinna Cohn: https://corinnacohn.substack.com/p/the-world-should-not-need-kiwi-farms

Liz Fong Jones calls Corinna a “Kiwi Farms operative”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Np9erdnM4l8&t=3074s&ab_channel=LizFong-Jones

Border Gateway Protocol (BGP): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_Gateway_Protocol

Electronic Frontier Foundation: https://www.eff.org/

Internet Archive: https://archive.org/

FIRE: https://www.thefire.org/

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Corinna & Nina talk ICONS

Corinna Cohn — Fri, 28 Jul 2023 15:48:04 GMT

The Dorx do a quick review of the 2023 ICONS International Women's Sports Summit in Denver, among whose speakers were many former Heterodorx guests like Carole Hooven, Colin Wright, Helen Joyce, Kara Dansky, and Kim Jones; plus Suzanne Vierling, Dina McMillan, Riley Gaines, Jennifer Sey, and countless other badass women, including tall otherworldly young athletes, elder Olympic champions, lawyers, writers, policy-makers, conservatives, liberals, and spectral beings. There were even some men, like Jon Pike⁠, ⁠Ross Tucker⁠, Corinna, and at least one cute security guy. The theme was WINNING, and we're going to, just like Nina wins an argument with Corinna about whether the elite professional-managerial class constitutes an "orthodoxy." It is what's best in life!

ICONS website (currently featuring videos from the 3-day Summit): https://www.iconswomen.com/

GENDER WARS Playing Cards: https://store.ninapaley.com/product/gender-wars-playing-cards/

N.W.H.: F*ck the Security Guards: https://youtu.be/6LjW6j56ZgI

Elaine Miller at the Edinburgh Fringe: https://twitter.com/GussieGrips/status/1684893485902565378

Donate via Nina’s blog (upper right hand corner): https://blog.ninapaley.com/

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Pediatric Disenchantment with Julia Mason, MD

Corinna Cohn — Thu, 20 Jul 2023 15:28:25 GMT

Julia Mason is a practicing pediatrician, a Fellow of the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP), and a founding member of the Society for Evidence Based Gender Medicine (SEGM). A politically homeless, feline-affirming, bleeding-heart liberal who wants to pause pediatric transition, Mason raises grave concerns about the “affirmation model” which locks in adolescent identities at a time kids cycle through them as part of growing up. We learn the AAP actively suppresses internal dissent while profiting from corporate endorsements; that there are no empirical criteria for identifying which kids are “actually” trans; that small children believe whatever adults - especially their parents - tell them; and that Corinna is drinking a lot of electrolytes.

Links:

Wheaton Labs: https://wheaton-labs.com/

Julia Mason on Twitter: https://twitter.com/JuliaMasonMD1

SEGM, the Society for Evidence Based Gender Medicine https://segm.org/

Reconsidering Informed Consent: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35300570/

The Myth of “Reliable Research”: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36593754/

Gender doctor praises Leelah Alcorn “boldly” committing suicide: https://www.thedistancemag.com/p/leader-of-alabama-gender-clinic-praises

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To Speak or Not to Speak? with Olivia

Corinna Cohn — Thu, 06 Jul 2023 18:03:37 GMT

Olivia works on the front lines of America’s public education system, teaching in the Pacific Northwest. So dangerous is her line of work that she’s choosing to remain semi-anonymous — for now. What will it take for her, and others witnessing State-ordered genderist indoctrination of children, to say something? Corinna gently reminds that we have to be able to say some things are wrong, while Nina says this may be everyone’s last chance to speak out before it’s “cool” (and then passé). Olivia explains how teachers are in a bind, and unless the spiral of silence gets broken, America’s public schools face an even bleaker future.

Links:

Genspect: https://genspect.org/

Gender A Wider Lens podcast: https://gender-a-wider-lens.captivate.fm/

The Milgram Experiment: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment

Rona Duwe, German feminist: https://substack.com/@ronaduwe

Gender Wars cards (are they appropriate in the classroom?): https://www.heterodorx.com/gender-wars-cards/

FAIR Educators Alliance: https://www.fairforall.org/fair-educators-alliance/

Angus Fox: https://genspect.org/author/angusfox/

FIRE: https://www.thefire.org/

WDI: https://www.womensdeclaration.com/en/

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Doin’ the 12-Step with Ben Appel

Corinna Cohn — Thu, 29 Jun 2023 15:30:00 GMT

Returning sexy guest Ben Appel recently wrote about genderism and other political ideologies infiltrating Alcoholics Anonymous, despite its 10th Tradition prohibiting alignment with outside issues. But what is a “Tradition” anyway? Ben and Nina possibly violate the 11th one (“always maintain personal anonymity at the level of press, radio, and films”) in an attempt to describe the wacky, brilliant, not-really-a-cult-except-sometimes, life-changing, spiritual, occasionally smelly world of 12-Step recovery programs. Corinna learns the difference between AA and Al-Anon; Nina wishes she believed in god and says “irrational problems demand irrational solutions”; and Ben talks about compulsive praying and his upcoming book, “Cis White Gay,” along with a ton of other interesting topics. Another great episode! Keep coming back!

Links:

Ben Appel: https://www.benappelwrites.com/writing

How Alcoholics Anonymous Lost Its Way by Ben Appel: https://unherd.com/2023/05/how-alcoholics-anonymous-lost-its-way/

Our Wilfred Reilly episode: https://www.heterodorx.com/podcast/episode-82-hoaxes-wokeses-and-other-folkses-with-wilfred-reilly/

AA’s 12 Traditions: https://www.aa.org/the-twelve-traditions

Synanon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synanon

Alcoholics Anonymous: https://www.aa.org/

Al-Anon: https://al-anon.org/

The Serenity Prayer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serenity_Prayer

Nina’s Adventures book: https://store.ninapaley.com/product/ninas-adventures-book/

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Gender of Champions with Kim Jones

Corinna Cohn — Sat, 24 Jun 2023 01:35:05 GMT

Kim Jones is a co-founder of ICONS, the International Council On WomeN’s Sports. A former college athlete whose daughter had to compete against Lia Thomas, Jones intelligently and passionately articulates why “sports are the public arena of the difference of the sexes,” and how gaslighting girls in the spotlight sends a harrowing message to all women. We also discuss the inversion of the word “inclusion,” the slipperiness of the word “gender,” men undressing next to strange girls, the importance of speaking your mind, Corinna's fanciful claims of doing Nina's yard work, Title IX, women who advocate male dominance, and more.

ICONS Women’s Sports Summit, Denver July 21-23 (the Dorx will be there!): https://www.iconswomen.com/2023-conference-registration/

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Open Wounds

Corinna Cohn — Mon, 05 Jun 2023 15:17:21 GMT

The Dorx skip the guest to discuss online drama du jour: so-called “allies” using language detransitioners don’t like. Nina asserts no one likes to be told how to speak; that there is some violence inherent to all surgery; that middle-aged women are forced into an unwanted mommy role; and all humans are capable of healing, no matter how disfigured or mutilated. Corinna says we can use plain instead of charged language, and implores “don’t be an ally, be a listener.” He argues calmly, rationally, and in good faith, before mentioning he recently doubled his dose of exogenous estrogen. Then he returns to Twitter to provoke everyone further for some reason.

Links:

GENDER WARS cards (temporarily out of stock, but on backorder): https://store.ninapaley.com/product/gender-wars-playing-cards/

India Willoughby's review: https://spinster.xyz/@ninapaley/posts/AVYdzaeaDtSPIcc07U

Mary Harrington: https://reactionaryfeminist.com/feminism-against-progress/

Corinna provoking people on Twitter: https://twitter.com/heterodorx/status/1664351092535173120

https://twitter.com/heterodorx/status/1665547115236405248

https://twitter.com/heterodorx/status/1665549900258443265

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Alasdair Gunn: It’s Fun To Play Scrabble With A Linguist

Corinna Cohn — Thu, 25 May 2023 15:20:16 GMT

Vice Director of Genspect Alasdair Gunn (nee Angus Fox) rejoins the Dorx to recap Killarney’s Bigger Picture conference, compare European and US approaches to gender issues, and update us on his health. Soon Corinna is pushing exogenous estrogen on Nina, who just wants to settle down with a female housemate despite being recently named a Scarlet W***e. Other major themes include menopause, burly Irish asphalt workers, tarot cards, and repeated threats by Corinna to edit all this out. It’s the quality content our firefighting, tree-felling, cooking and cleaning listeners expect!

Links:

Shawn Thierry’s Texas speech: https://twitter.com/lukemaciastx/status/1657213918048034817

IMPRO by Keith Johnstone: https://archive.org/details/pdfy-KIkLrSPi_3lzPl5v

GENDER WARS Playing Cards which can totally also be used for Tarot-style divination: https://store.ninapaley.com/product/gender-wars-playing-cards/

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Ask an Autogynephile! with Phil Illy

Corinna Cohn — Wed, 17 May 2023 22:10:53 GMT

Most autogynephiles — men sexually aroused by impersonating, embodying, or identifying as women — are so deeply ashamed of their condition they deny its existence. Phil Illy is a rare exception whose acceptance and curiosity led him to research and write a book on the topic. We discuss attraction to others (“allosexuality”) vs attraction to embodied states or oneself (“autosexuality”); the narcissism of falling in love; “meta-sexuality”; gender-based vs. sex-based attraction; autism as identity; pillow queens; Corinna’s boobs; Bronies; paranormal romance novels; pseudobisexuality; and autozoophilic trans turtles. After all our somewhat explicit talk about sex, we conclude it continues to be real, people continue to be weird, and everyone needs to CHILL OUT.

Links:

Autoheterosexuality by Phil Illy: autohetbook.com

Phil Illy's Substack: phililly.substack.com

Phil on Twitter: @autogynephilic

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The Heterodorx get Blocked and Reported with Katie Herzog and Jessie Singal

Corinna Cohn — Thu, 27 Apr 2023 14:35:04 GMT

For our celebratory 100th episode, podcasting role-models Katie Herzog and Jesse Singal join the Dorx as special guest audio engineers. Except Corinna’s been so busy testifying for “anti-trans" bills around the country, and Nina’s been so sick with COVID, that we only made it to episode 98. Nonetheless, we cover gender wars, egregious reporting, backlashes, Drag Queen story hours, Trump Derangement Syndrome, the Minority Stress Model, men in women’s sports, persecution complexes, Twitter, Substack, pizzas, Katie’s goddess-like spouse, Nina’s “butch energy,” safety pins, and pronouns, learning that in spite of a few irreconcilable differences, all agree that “they” is a terrible choice for individuals.

Links:

Katie & Jesse's podcast: https://www.blockedandreported.org/

Riley Gaines at San Francisco State University: https://www.thefire.org/news/protestors-chased-down-riley-gaines-after-her-campus-speech-sfsu-says-its-proud-events

Posie Parker in New Zealand: https://www.feministcurrent.com/2023/03/25/kellie-jay-keen-is-attacked-and-mobbed-by-trans-activists-in-new-zealand/

Nina’s GiveSendGo: https://www.givesendgo.com/apocalypseanimated

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Incorrigible? with Zander Keig

Corinna Cohn — Sat, 22 Apr 2023 00:59:14 GMT

From anti-social teenage lesbian drop-out, to Coast Guardsman, to seminarian, to licensed clinical social worker, ⁠Zander Keig⁠ has led a singular life. Like Corinna, Zander is an old-school transsexual, but the culture has changed since the (not actually) halcyon tranny days of yore. Recently, Zander went from being WPATH Educator of the Year to becoming the subject of an ethics complaint and an underhanded cancel campaign — for committing the unforgivable sin of advising the Gender Dysphoria Alliance. Keig’s equanimity stands out even more than the fascinating, insightful, and occasionally harrowing stories on this episode.

Links:

Zander Keig’s website: https://www.zanderkeig.net/

Gender Dysphoria Alliance: https://www.genderdysphoriaalliance.com/

Foundation Against Intolerance and Racism: https://www.fairforall.org/

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Therapy Talk with James Esses

Corinna Cohn — Thu, 06 Apr 2023 21:32:14 GMT

Mild-mannered therapist-in-training James Esses was expelled from his university after expressing concerns about child safeguarding in relation to gender transition. Now he's fighting for his day in court. Focusing on "positive change in society," he fills in the Dorx on the whole story, and discusses the therapy industry, speaking out, cancel culture’s reign of terror, a variety of delusions, and the importance of acknowledging Reality for mental health.

Links:

James Esses’s Legal crowdfunder: https://www.crowdjustice.com/case/expelled-university-free-speech/

James Esses on Twitter: https://twitter.com/JamesEsses

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Speaking and Thinking with Helen Joyce

Corinna Cohn — Tue, 14 Mar 2023 16:32:22 GMT

Helen Joyce is a journalist, former writer and editor at The Economist, and author of TRANS: When Ideology Meets Reality. She joins the Dorx to discuss what is and is not Worthy Of Respect In A Democratic Society, the importance of free speech to free thought, the stupefaction of political polarization, differences between TERF Island and the USA, Left-wing “discipline,” splits in the gender-critical movement, and more. Nina is such a drooling fangirl she barely flinches when her work is compared to painted stones and crocheted vulvas, and Corinna asks refreshing questions.

Links:

Website: https://www.thehelenjoyce.com/

Twitter @HJoyceGender

TRANS: When Ideology Meets Reality: https://www.thehelenjoyce.com/trans-news-and-reviews/

Sex Matters: https://sex-matters.org/

Compliance Comix: https://www.heterodorx.com/compliancecomix/

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The CAIS Files

Corinna Cohn — Sun, 05 Mar 2023 16:31:05 GMT

Fetishized, minimized, and co-opted: Is it an identity? A “gotcha”? A political football? Complete Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome (CAIS) is in fact a serious medical condition, vanishingly rare yet disproportionately discussed by everyone with an agenda in the gender wars. Jo, a.k.a. CAIS Files, is a Child and Adolescent Psychiatrist, adoptive mother, and adult with CAIS, who eloquently sets the record straight on what Disorders of Sexual Development (DSDs) are and are not. Just like sex is a material reality rather than a feeling in a fantasist's head, so are the numerous conditions (mis)labeled "intersex". Enjoy the edifying wisdom and common sense of this long-overdue, much-anticipated episode.

Links:

CAIS files on Twitter: https://twitter.com/CAIS_Files

The Dreger-Wright debate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2aKX8Mcz9Q&ab_channel=CorinnaCohn

Carole Hooven: http://www.carolehooven.com/

TERF-Tranny Alliance: https://www.heterodorx.com/terftrannyalliance/

DSD Families: https://www.dsdfamilies.org/charity

Differently Normal blog: https://differently-normal.com/blog-2/

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How to Speak, How to Listen, and How to Comply

Corinna Cohn — Sat, 25 Feb 2023 20:05:57 GMT

Corinna has been VERY BUSY speaking out against medically harming children or in favor of genocide (depending), including delivering this excellent 3-minute testimony supporting Indiana SB 480. Nina grapples with the Kafkaesque nightmare that is Indiegogo. Corinna encounters some activists from Planned Parenthood giving free advice on “blocking that legal stuff.” We’ve missed posting podcasts regularly; between all the travel, testifying, day job (Corinna) and weeping in despair (Nina), we just haven’t had time. So please enjoy this unedited quickie we recorded this morning.

Links:

Corinna’s testimony for Indiana SB 480: https://youtu.be/wYhMejWA_zg

FOX59 news coverage of that same session: https://youtu.be/P_nP-bVyfMQ

How to Speak, How to Listen by Mortimer J. Adler: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/How-to-Speak-How-to-Listen/Mortimer-J-Adler/9780684846477

Compliance Comix: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/compliance-comix/

Agents of H.A.G.: https://www.heterodorx.com/hag/

The Witch Trials of JK Rowling: https://www.thefp.com/p/the-witch-trials-of-jk-rowling

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The View from Canada with Stuart Parker

Corinna Cohn — Wed, 08 Feb 2023 22:09:10 GMT

Canada, which National Lampoon once called “The Retarded Giant on Your Doorstep,” is just as affectionately known today as “Tranada.” It’s also the home of lifelong leftist, environmentalist, activist, prolific writer, and shape-shifting space lizard Stuart Parker. A former child-star-activist à la Greta Thunberg, Parker tells all about Canadian eugenics programs, Wallace Wong, “supportive housing”, the post-political era, Big Pharma, liberal nationalism, multi-culturalism, TERF blacklists, Morgane Oger, the role of mascot enforcer, total social immunity, getting canceled, and more. The Dorx are frequently shocked, and not just because Parker’s sarcasm surpasses Corinna’s.

Links:

Stuart Parker on Twitter: https://twitter.com/stuartlosaltos

Parker's website: http://stuartparker.ca/

Los Altos Institute: https://www.losaltos.ca/

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No-Makeup Tips with Holly Lawford-Smith

Corinna Cohn — Fri, 03 Feb 2023 19:10:49 GMT

Nina is both lazy and unafraid to look bad, as she fails to prepare a proper intro for magnificent political philosopher, author, and Quillette columnist Dr. Holly Lawford-Smith. Those same qualities are why Nina doesn’t wear makeup; Lawford-Smith shares some of her own. Even token tranny Corinna has some no-makeup tips, such as waiting 5-7 years between applications. Then Lawford-Smith answers, and asks, some profound questions: Is makeup attractive, or a signal of compliance? What counts as philosophy? Is long hair radfem? What is Gender Critical Feminism? Does b******t emanate from the Anglosphere, or from France? Is buying sex wrong? Prepare to be dazzled by beauty, intelligence, and humor that are anything but skin-deep.

Links:

https://hollylawford-smith.org/

https://quillette.com/author/holly-lawford-smith/

https://twitter.com/aytchellesse

Books: https://hollylawford-smith.org/books/

The Radical Notion: https://theradicalnotion.org/

Nina’s twitter makeup polls: https://twitter.com/ninapaley/status/1613321903846068225

and https://twitter.com/ninapaley/status/1613540702356471808

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Elaine Miller: Behind the Merkin

Corinna Cohn — Sat, 28 Jan 2023 15:20:51 GMT

Elaine Miller is a pelvic physiotherapist, award-winning comedic performer, women’s rights campaigner, and now Edinburgh council candidate. She recounts how she became the infamous “Holyrood Flasher,” scandalized her children, and taught much of the ignorant world what a merkin is. She also discusses why male people cannot have periods, “gender difference,” comedy, fetishes, organ transplants, incontinence, the Bristol Stool Chart, bumholes, and much more. All in a lovely Scottish accent that melts the hearts of Amerkins like Corinna, who has NO REGRETS, and Nina, who reveals some very personal lady issues and clenches her Kegels through the entire interview.

Links:

Elaine’s web site: gussetgrippers.co.uk

Twitter: https://twitter.com/GussieGrips

The Naked Athena of Portland: https://www.artdealerstreet.com/single-post/2020/08/21/the-vulnerable-warrior-of-portland

Dave Chappelle’s show The Closer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Closer_(2021_film)

Bristol stool chart: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol_stool_scale

Tampax sponsors Dylan Mulvaney: https://www.newsweek.com/boycott-tampax-trends-company-slammed-trans-sponsors-1761556

Merkin: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merkin

'Flashing' feminist Elaine Miller to stand in Edinburgh council by-election: https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politics/flashing-feminist-elaine-miller-stand-29057411

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Dialing Down the Misanthropy with Heather Heying

Corinna Cohn — Fri, 20 Jan 2023 16:45:39 GMT

Evolutionary biologist, former Evergreen college professor, Dark Horse podcaster, and author Heather Heying shares her thoughts on academia. We learn Heying is the daughter of a university math professor, like Nina. Corinna then nudges the two faculty spawn into a lively argument about just how much women submit to men, and whether social conditioning or biology are the cause. Plus, utopianism and its discontents, social stratification, consuming junk, environmental issues, and why life is too short to eat lousy chocolate.

Links:

Heather Heying’s web site: https://www.heatherheying.com/

Heying’s Substack: https://naturalselections.substack.com/

Heying on Twitter: https://twitter.com/HeatherEHeying

Dark Horse Podcast: https://www.bretweinstein.net/darkhorse-podcast

A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century: https://www.huntergatherersguide.com/

On resigning from the Board of the University of Austin: https://naturalselections.substack.com/p/uatxresignation

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Circling the Rhetorical Drain with Alex Byrne and Carole Hooven

Corinna Cohn — Fri, 13 Jan 2023 16:05:21 GMT

Why do debates about trans rights always get sucked into arguments about Disorders of Sexual Development? Philosophy professor Alex Byrne and Biology professor Carole Hooven join the Dorx for some “Monday night quarterbacking” on the Dreger-Wright debate. But first, Carole and Nina compare notes on hysterectomies, oopherctomies, and menopause. Then it’s on to why “b******t” shouldn’t replace facts even to be “nice,” what “sex is real” actually means, the red herring of DSDs, how the humanities suffer from “science envy,” luxury beliefs, why allies ruin everything, and more. Nina ends it on a happy note: the impending extinction of everything.

Links:

Maggie Chapman replaces facts with b******t: https://twitter.com/HolyroodDaily/status/1605929587220676609

Carole Hooven tweets about C/AIS (over)representation in sports: https://twitter.com/hoovlet/status/1604137509805428736

Alex Byrne: https://philosophy.mit.edu/byrne/

Carole Hooven: http://www.carolehooven.com/

The Dreger-Wright Debate: https://youtu.be/K2aKX8Mcz9Q

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Nina Gets Canceled (Again) & Corinna Predicts the Future

Corinna Cohn — Fri, 06 Jan 2023 00:24:26 GMT

After raising 150% of her goal on IndieGoGo, the crowdfunding platform cancels Nina’s first comic book in 30 years, Agents of H.A.G.. Money, funders, orders — all gone, 2 days after the 2-week campaign ended. Meanwhile, Corinna observes fissures between Gender Critical factions widening into increasingly insurmountable chasms. The future looks dystopian, and so does the present!

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Alice Dreger vs. Colin Wright

Corinna Cohn — Sat, 17 Dec 2022 20:15:50 GMT

This very non-representative episode of Heterodorx is the recording of the formal, timed debate between Alice Dreger and Colin Wright, which was held live Monday December 7 2022. They set out to resolve the claim, “Biological sex is real, immutable, and binary.” Did they succeed? Listen and decide for yourself!

Dreger-Wright debate on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2aKX8Mcz9Q&ab_channel=CorinnaCohn

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Good Trans, Bad Trans with Katy Montgomerie

Corinna Cohn — Thu, 08 Dec 2022 18:20:48 GMT

After some small talk about the holidays, trans YouTuber, activist, and social media bon vivant Katy Montgomerie cheerfully and calmly explains how Gender Criticals aren’t feminist, believe in sexed souls, advocate for the elimination of trans people, and want to ruin Katy’s life. Unlike the sucking-up-to-the-oppressor trans friends of JK Rowling — whom Katy claims is openly hostile to trans people — Katy is NOT “one of the good ones.” Katy is, however, a good sport, and clearly elucidates a set of moral and policy positions. Good or bad? Listen and decide for yourself!

Links:

Katy Montgomerie on Twitter: https://twitter.com/KatyMontgomerie

website: https://katymontgomerie.com/

Adult Human Weirdo T-shirts: https://nina-paley-shirts.creator-spring.com/listing/adult-human-weirdo

T: The Story of Testosterone by Carole Hooven: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250236067/tthestoryoftestosteronethehormonethatdominatesanddividesus

The Dreger-Wright debate (December 12 2022): https://youtu.be/K2aKX8Mcz9Q

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Gays Against Groomers with Michael

Corinna Cohn — Wed, 30 Nov 2022 15:33:42 GMT

Michael (first name only) talks about Gays Against Groomers, a non-profit non-partisan gay rights organization opposing the sexualization, indoctrination, and medicalization of children. What is grooming? What’s the difference between “gay” and LGBTQ++? Is there porn in school libraries? Michael didn’t grow up in the same world as Corinna or Nina (who is as old as his mom), and we discover a generation gap in experience and activism. But despite our differences, there’s one thing we all agree on: “eunuchs are hot.”

Gays Against Groomers: https://www.gaysagainstgroomers.com/

GAG on Twitter: https://twitter.com/againstgrmrs

Gender Care Consumer Advocacy Network: https://www.gccan.org/

Julie Bindel Heterodorx episode: https://www.heterodorx.com/podcast/episode-81-julie-bindel-defines-feminism/

Image of adults protecting children from a rainbow: https://www.gaysagainstgroomers.com/event-details/protect-the-children-rally

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Ask A Marxist! with Ben Burgis

Corinna Cohn — Sat, 26 Nov 2022 00:57:16 GMT

After Corinna takes a confusing online class, the Dorx ask author, professor, podcaster, and Marxist Ben Burgis what the heck “Transgender Marxism” is. Also: what do Conservatives conserve? Is “transgender” a class? What is social reproduction, and who does it? Does Ben draw a distinction between gender and sex? Why have Nina’s efforts to genocide Corinna via misgendering continually failed? Is “hate speech” Free Speech? Can every cook govern? This episode is a class in itself.

Ben Burgis’s Give Them An Argument podcast, Slavoj Žižek episode - https://youtu.be/Xnmz_aLrEUM

Ben Burgis at Jacobin magazine - https://jacobin.com/author/ben-burgis

Ben Burgis at Daily Beast - https://www.thedailybeast.com/author/ben-burgis

Ben Burgis on Twitter - https://twitter.com/BenBurgis

Transgender Marxism - https://www.plutobooks.com/9780745341668/transgender-marxism/

Heterodorx Helen Dale episode - https://www.heterodorx.com/podcast/episode-80-the-we-hate-hate-speech-speech-with-helen-dale/

Heterodorx Wilfred Reilly episode - https://www.heterodorx.com/podcast/episode-82-hoaxes-wokeses-and-other-folkses-with-wilfred-reilly/

Heterodorx Buck Angel episode - https://www.heterodorx.com/podcast/episode-77-gimme-that-old-time-transsexualism-with-buck-angel/

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Hoaxes, Wokeses, and Other Folkses with Wilfred Reilly

Corinna Cohn — Thu, 17 Nov 2022 17:01:28 GMT

WARNING: Corinna starts this episode with a challenging variation of our jingle that might hurt your ears. If you can withstand that, you’re in for a treat, as social scientist, author, and "greatest mind of a generation" Wilfred Reilly speaks entertainingly and insightfully about how the class-analysis-based Old Left got replaced with “wokeism”. Plus the immobility of identity, criticism of Alcoholics Anonymous, hate hoaxes, fake crimes, narrative collapses, fragility, pronouns, and how “every single claim made by BLM is BS.” Don’t say we didn’t warn you!

Wilfred Reilly on Twitter: https://twitter.com/wil_da_beast630

on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Wilfred-Reilly/e/B07RBL17FQ%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share

on fecebook: https://www.facebook.com/WilfredReilly630

Media Matters hit piece on Corinna: https://www.mediamatters.org/twitter/recent-witness-anti-trans-legislative-hearings-claims-trans-people-did-not-even-exist-1939

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Julie Bindel Defines Feminism

Corinna Cohn — Thu, 10 Nov 2022 14:28:13 GMT

What is a feminist? Journalist, author, and English badass Julie Bindel has opinions, informed by decades of work in the Women’s Liberation movement. We discuss women who aren’t feminists being mistaken for feminists, women denouncing feminism, far-right incursions into feminism, male protectionism, Political Lesbianism, kicking men in the nuts, separatism, homosexuality, butch-femme nonsense, bodyguards, Patriarchy, incels, and fake leftist men. Bindel passionately, intelligently, and articulately voices a Feminist position that will satisfy supporters, while supplying substance and heft for detractors to push against.

Julie Bindel’s Substack: https://juliebindel.substack.com/

Julie Bindel on Twitter: https://twitter.com/bindelj

Andrea Dworkin - Right Wing Women: https://www.feministes-radicales.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Andrea-DWORKIN-Right-Wing-Women-The-Politics-of-Domesticated-Females-1983.pdf

The Lesbian Heresy by Sheila Jeffreys: https://www.spinifexpress.com.au/backlist/p/9781875559176

FILIA: https://www.filia.org.uk/

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The We Hate Hate Speech Speech with Helen Dale

Corinna Cohn — Fri, 04 Nov 2022 13:33:39 GMT

Classical Liberal, celebrated author, retired lawyer, and Smart Person Helen Dale regales the Dorx with a history of "hate speech", citing Marbury vs. Madison, the Allport Scale, John Stuart Mill, entrenched judicial review, decolonization and anti-colonization movements, the pernicious influence of the Soviet Union, and COMMIE NONSENSE. Nina interrupts her a few times to discuss the incitement of mobs, Kellie-Jay Keene’s US tour, and why Dale thinks feminism is “mad.” After a short vape break, Dale returns to Liberal Toryism, freedom of association, Hadrian’s Rescript, loos in developing countries, “non-crime hate incidents” in the UK, the marketplace of ideas, and why “lobbyists are bonkers”. Can the Law save humanity from itself? Listen up and pay attention, because Dale’s citations fly faster than the pages of a thrown encyclopedia.

A Mere Sampling of Links:

Helen Dale on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Helen-Dale/e/B001K82V2G%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share

Helen Dale on Twitter: https://twitter.com/_helendale

Law & Liberty: https://lawliberty.org/author/helen-dale/

Louise Perry: https://www.louisemperry.co.uk/

The Secret of Our Success: https://press.princeton.edu/books/paperback/9780691178431/the-secret-of-our-success

International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights: https://www.ohchr.org/en/instruments-mechanisms/instruments/international-covenant-civil-and-political-rights

FIRE, the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression: https://www.thefire.org/

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The Un-Flat World of Simon Edge

Corinna Cohn — Thu, 27 Oct 2022 21:41:05 GMT

Simon Edge’s most recent novel, The End of the World is Flat, lampoons the corruption and inversion of Stonewall and other LGB organizations from the safe distance of satire. While Edge was evolving from slightly bitter young journalist, to married and socially-integrated author, the institutions that once represented him were losing their hearts, souls, minds, and constituencies. We discuss the failures of journalism, the benefits of gaining perspective with age, the power of Low-Income Privilege, and Owen Jones, who is as quintessentially British as tea and crumpets but less appetizing. Plus, Corinna sings our beloved intro jingle, and Nina pledges to cling to corrosive resentments rather than forgive. It’s not really the end of the world, it just feels like it sometimes.

The End of the World is Flat: https://www.amazon.com/End-World-Flat-Simon-Edge/dp/178563240X

Simon Edge books on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Simon-Edge/e/B001HPX6PI/ref=dp_byline_cont_pop_book_1

Simon Edge on Twitter: https://twitter.com/simonjedge

This Land is Mine - Nina’s most popular animation: https://vimeo.com/50531435

Nina’s Menopause t-shirt: https://nina-paley-shirts.creator-spring.com/listing/menopause-is-badass

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Pride and Prejudice

Corinna Cohn — Sun, 16 Oct 2022 20:16:42 GMT

In this impromptu, unedited, and super-fresh episode, Corinna discusses the Spencer Pridefest, “the largest rural LGBTQ+ gathering in the state of Indiana.” How do ever-changing flags and identities impact the sticker-and-trinket-seller economy? Should kids be having sex? Do gay people exist any more? What the hell happened since the 1990’s? See Corinna's photos at heterodorx.com.

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Gimme That Old-Time Transsexualism with Buck Angel

Corinna Cohn — Wed, 12 Oct 2022 19:54:49 GMT

Parent, pornographer, and kinky icon Buck “Tranpa” Angel joins the Dorx for some good old-time tranny talk with Corinna, plus some new-time TERF talk and female bonding with Nina (both have had hysterectomies). We discuss Instagram censoring Buck’s recent interview with a young survivor of medical interventions; PayPal penalizing wrongspeak; porn, finance, and the law; Teletubbies; detransitioners; orgasms; misogyny; cowardice; the importance of not transing children; and whether Nina gives off a “butch lesbian vibe.” Nina mis-sexes Buck twice, and Corinna reveals more about “trans-affirming health care” causing sexual disability. We laugh, we cry (inside), and we take everything less seriously than the “queer activists” of today.

links:

Buck Angel on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BuckAngel

Buck Angel’s youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/BuckAngelOfficial/

Nina’s menopause shirt: https://nina-paley-shirts.creator-spring.com/listing/menopause-is-badass

Our Kate Bornstein episode: https://www.heterodorx.com/podcast/episode-72-auntie-kate-uncle-nina-and-mx-cohn-with-kate-bornstein/

Gays Against Groomers: https://www.gaysagainstgroomers.com/

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Tell Us How You Really Feel, Corinna

Corinna Cohn — Thu, 29 Sep 2022 15:04:26 GMT

Sincerity displaces sarcasm for a few minutes as Corinna offers a rare glimpse into the anguish underlying his advocacy, starting with a profound dream and its possible interpretations. Nina has a list of Gender B******t News; the Dorx focus on WPATH’s new “standards of care,” which functionally eliminate patient rights. Corinna rethinks his staunch Libertarian position on legislation, as banning “gender affirming” medical procedures on minors may be the only option left. Nina despairs at the Internet Archive's removal of Kiwi Farms from its Wayback Machine, formerly the last safeguard against Orwellian online memory-holing. Plus, a tense and worthwhile argument over eunuchs. It all sounds like a bad dream, but it’s only 2022.

Links:

Corinna’s Kiwi Farms article: https://corinnacohn.substack.com/p/the-world-should-not-need-kiwi-farms

Velocipe Cycladia: https://blog.ninapaley.com/2020/08/08/exorcise-bike-part-2-velocipe-cycladia/

Church of the Subgenius: http://www.subgenius.com/

The Ink Black Heart: https://robert-galbraith.com/?stories=the-ink-black-heart

The Internet Archive: https://archive.org/

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Stephanie Winn is Some Kind of Therapist

Corinna Cohn — Mon, 26 Sep 2022 17:17:43 GMT

Stephanie Winn is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist, advocate for victims of gender medicine, and podcaster. She shares some tales of her grad school training, including a cultish “T-group” retreat, before moving on to trauma resilience, appropriate boundaries, and the savior complex of some clinicians. But first, we warn listeners to mask up, socially distance, and vaccinate their audio equipment, because Corinna has COVID! Between being oppressed by a TERFy co-host, exhausted by trans-everything, and contracting the plague, it’s no wonder Corinna needs advice. Can Winn deliver? Listen and find out!

Links:

You Must Be Some Kind of Therapist: https://www.sometherapist.com/

Mental health for detransitioners twitter thread: https://twitter.com/sometherapist/status/1560735125326815233

GCCAN: https://www.gccan.org/

Genspect - Beyond Transition: https://genspect.org/beyond/

Derrick Jensen episode: https://www.heterodorx.com/blog/episode-31-goin-tribal/

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The Parts We Play with Ben Appel

Corinna Cohn — Tue, 20 Sep 2022 13:20:20 GMT

When nonfiction writer Ben Appel attended a non-traditional program at Columbia University, barely more than a decade separated him from the younger students who had already displaced gay with “queer” - and displayed open hatred of “cis gays” like himself. Ben knows what homophobia looks like, and recognized it in the “safe spaces” pervading campus culture. His introspective writing is informed by his experience in cults, as well as his recovery. He discusses the difference between slurs and validation trophies; victimhood as a component of identity; medicalizing homosexuality; feminism; and the ideological capture of minds and institutions.

links:

https://www.benappelwrites.com/

twitter: https://twitter.com/benappel

substack: https://substack.com/profile/12679522-ben-appel

Ben Appel on victimhood: https://www.queermajority.com/essays-all/victimhood-is-one-helluva-drug

The New Homophobia: https://www.newsweek.com/new-homophobia-opinion-1698969

Julie Bindel interviews Ben Appel: https://juliebindel.substack.com/p/an-interview-with-ben-appel#details

Quillette: https://quillette.com/2021/07/08/as-a-gay-child-in-a-christian-cult-i-was-taught-to-hate-myself-then-i-joined-the-church-of-social-justice-and-nothing-changed/

Corinna’s Washington Post piece: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/04/11/i-was-too-young-to-decide-about-transgender-surgery-at-nineteen/

The End of the World is Flat by Simon Edge: https://www.amazon.com/End-World-Flat-Simon-Edge/dp/178563240X

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Walking the Talk with Doc Stock

Corinna Cohn — Thu, 08 Sep 2022 21:49:23 GMT

Neither trans-exclusionary nor a radical feminist, philosopher and author Kathleen Stock has been branded a TERF and harassed out of her university, while simultaneously gaining recognition as one of world's top thinkers. That's because she thinks deeply and critically, and tells the truth. Whether it’s Corinna’s comparison of transgenderism with transracialism, or Nina’s assertion that right-on lefty dudes are misogynists, Stock has heard, and thought about, it all — and has eloquent responses. We discuss immersion in legal and cultural fictions, “b******t theories of womanhood,” DARVO (Deny, Attack, Reverse Victim & Offender), child transition, online disembodiment, pronouns, “massive edifice(s) of b******t,” women being terrible to women, and cowardice, especially in academia.

Links:

Kathleen Stock’s Substack: https://kathleenstock.substack.com/

Kathleen Stock’s website: https://kathleenstock.com/

Kathleen Stock on Twitter: https://twitter.com/Docstockk

Material Girls: https://www.hachette.co.uk/titles/kathleen-stock/material-girls/9780349726595/

Kate Bornstein episode: https://www.heterodorx.com/podcast/episode-72-auntie-kate-uncle-nina-and-mx-cohn-with-kate-bornstein/

Lyell Asher episode: https://www.heterodorx.com/podcast/episode-67-an-education-on-education-with-dr-lyell-asher/

University of Austin: https://www.uaustin.org/

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Auntie Kate, Uncle Nina, and Mx Cohn - with Kate Bornstein

Corinna Cohn — Fri, 26 Aug 2022 19:34:29 GMT

Author and gender theorist Kate Bornstein identifies as a “tranny” and “dyke,” and is male according to Nina, whom he identifies as a “sex fundamentalist” and “butch lesbian.” We disagree in better-than-good, possibly-excellent faith, about pronouns, respect, sex, gender, and atheism, while agreeing about keeping males out of female prisons, the trap of identity, and how to behave in church. A fun conversation with plenty for listeners to disagree with, too!

Kate Bornstein: http://katebornstein.com/

Anne Fausto-Sterling, Sexologist: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_Fausto-Sterling

A response to Anne-Fausto-Sterling (among many): https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12476264/

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Adult Human Weirdos

Corinna Cohn — Thu, 18 Aug 2022 02:11:38 GMT

Corinna and Nina spontaneously sing the Heterodorx jingle, hoping British listeners will not hear “ducks” in “heterodox.” There’s plenty of exciting news from TERF Island, but nothing tops the American story of a transsexual podcaster pursuing Dave Chappelle in his hometown of Yellow Springs, Ohio. Nina pitches a commercially viable rom-com, Corinna fishes for a live show invitation, and both recall an unusually festive event from 2019. Did we mention the new Heterodorx T-shirt? Yes we did, including the touching story of its origin.

Adult Human Weirdo shirts: https://nina-paley-shirts.creator-spring.com/listing/adult-human-weirdo

Art Coop job application: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSePtw0qALB2z-X18ucfAeb241pZjaXMzEsm4Dx1egX3B-zN-A/viewform

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Virtual Late-Night Dorm Room with Lev Polyakov

Corinna Cohn — Mon, 15 Aug 2022 13:53:00 GMT

Russian-American animator Lev Polyakov hosts and produces the Break The Rules podcast, which brings together extremely diverse viewpoints from the online testosteronosphere. A thoughtful, well-spoken, and generous conversationalist, Lev can talk to anyone - even the Dorx. After discussing such serious topics as the war in Ukraine, America’s military-industrial-propaganda complex, and “counter-semitism,” Lev moves on to the Estrogen experience (Corinna’s and Nina’s differ greatly), alchemy, waking dreams, trippy psychedelic meditation stuff, his vibrating Third Eye, generating 3-D movies inside his head, Torah, and the New York animation scene of 2004. Break the rules and pass the bong*!

*None of us actually use weed, as far as I know.

Break the Rules: breaktherules.tv

patreon.com/breaktherules

twitter.com/breakth3rules

Led Zepplin - Black Dog: https://youtu.be/fl6s1x9j4QQ

Seder-Masochism: https://sedermasochism.com/download/

Exodus 33: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus%2033%3A17-23&version=KJV

Newgrounds: https://www.newgrounds.com/

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Fediverse Follies with Alex Gleason

Corinna Cohn — Tue, 09 Aug 2022 14:05:38 GMT

Where do you go when you get banned by fecebook and twitter - or, conversely, when you think mainstream social media isn’t censoring enough? To the Fediverse, where free-speech refugees and would-be Orwellian dictators form ever-more polarized online communities. Returning Heterodork Alex Gleason, who created the popular Soapbox platform, relates some recent behind-the-scenes Fedi drama. The same tribal politics skewing mainstream social media, guide Fedi developers as well - but with less money! This makes the Fediverse the worst social media system, except for all the others. (Which are so much worse you really should join the Fedi.)

Episode 8: Guest Heterodork Alex Gleason: https://www.heterodorx.com/podcast/episode-8-guest-heterodork-alex-gleason/

Pleroma Is Dead: https://blog.alexgleason.me/pleroma-is-dead/

The first and best woman-centered social media: spinster.xyz

Nina’s terrorist Fedi site: neenster.org

Alex's Fedi instance: gleasonator.com

Soapbox: https://soapbox.pub/

Join the Fediverse: https://jointhefedi.com/

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Maud Maron, TERF for Congress

Corinna Cohn — Thu, 04 Aug 2022 16:24:41 GMT

A defense lawyer and Democrat who knows what a woman is, Maud Maron is running for Congress in New York’s 10th District. She discusses Title 9, woke fragility, getting canceled by other Democrats, trans narratives pushed on teenagers, TERF Island, illiberalism on the Left, pronouns, Truscum fallacies, TERFs, men in women’s sports, TERFing, language, TERF, guns, TERFs, abortion, TERF, COVID, TERFs, and all things TERFy. Did we mention she’s a TERF? Nina almost regrets moving away from NYC’s West Village 10 years ago. Maron may be a little ahead of her time, but might (hopefully?) signal political changes to come.

Maud Maron for Congress: https://maudmaron.com/

Maud Maron on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MaudMaron

Episode 66: Truscum Talk with Evie: https://www.heterodorx.com/podcast/episode-66-truscum-talk-with-evie/

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An Education on Education with Dr. Lyell Asher

Corinna Cohn — Sun, 24 Jul 2022 17:53:13 GMT

First, please listen to Dr. Lyell Asher's video, Why Colleges Are Becoming Cults. Then come back to hear more about the low quality of ed schools, the supply of racism not meeting demand, how supporting free speech is an “employment killer", cowardly Boards of Directors, tenure, race as a distraction from class, administrative bloat, and grade inflation. Plus, Nina reveals her plans to kill trans people by inviting them on long bike rides when they’re out of shape, and Corinna wishes there were more Marxists.

Why Colleges Are Becoming Cults [Full Series] | Dr. Lyell Asher https://youtu.be/0hybqg81n-M

B******t Jobs by David Graeber https://www.rentabasicauniversal.es/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/B******t-Jobs_-A-Theory-David-Graeber.pdf

Woke, Inc. https://www.vivekramaswamy.com/wokeinc

Rob Henderson - Luxury Beliefs https://nypost.com/2019/08/17/luxury-beliefs-are-the-latest-status-symbol-for-rich-americans/

Nina’s Open Letter to the U of I https://blog.ninapaley.com/2019/02/28/open-letter-to-the-university-of-illinois/

FIRE: https://www.thefire.org/

Gibson’s Bakery v. Oberlin College https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gibson%27s_Bakery_v._Oberlin_College

Nina’s TERFening https://blog.ninapaley.com/2017/03/22/the-terfening-online-silencing-campaign/

How Ed Schools Became a Menace to Higher Education - https://quillette.com/2019/03/06/how-ed-schools-became-a-menace-to-higher-education/

Low Definition in Higher Education - https://theamericanscholar.org/low-definition-in-higher-education/

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Truscum Talk with Evie

Corinna Cohn — Thu, 14 Jul 2022 21:41:55 GMT

Evie, a pseudonymous transsexual, claims True Transsexuality is a physiological condition akin to intersex, arguing childhood medical transition is a corrective for “prenatal hormone exposure, abnormal androgen receptors and physiological brain differences”. The Dorx may not agree, but have a productive and interesting conversation as Evie refreshingly backs up arguments with evidence (of varying validity) instead trying to weasel out with postmodern doublespeak. There should be more conversations like this.

Trans surgeon Marci Bowers on early transitioners’ anorgasmia: https://twitter.com/DonovanCleckley/status/1521625518394773505

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Gods, GITs, and Religion with Colette Colfer

Corinna Cohn — Fri, 08 Jul 2022 21:36:24 GMT

Colette Colfer, lecturer in Religious Studies at SETU, discusses some religious aspects of Gender Identity Theory (GIT), including faith in the unprovable; hierarchical community; holy days, festivals, and symbols; heresy and blasphemy; and a a way to be born again. But there are also differences, notably the absence of God. Nina attempts to explain this with a theory of “distributed God”, while Corinna describes gender apostasy. Are we getting less religious? What is the difference between a religion and a cult? What is Reality? Hear answers, and more questions, in Colfer's delightful Irish accent (and the Dorx's unexceptional American ones).

Colette Colfer on Twitter: https://twitter.com/ColetteColfer

A New Religion: https://www.broadsheet.ie/2022/04/26/colette-colfer-a-new-religion/

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Cathy Brennan Doesn’t Care What You Think

Corinna Cohn — Thu, 30 Jun 2022 20:11:02 GMT

But if you care what she thinks, listen to this lesbian, radical feminist, lawyer, and Fake Goth hold forth about Tumblr, putting gender identity above sex in the law, the distraction of public bathroom policies, Republican lesbians, “queer” as a reclaimed slur, the civil rights of trans people, why “ROGD moms are bad moms”, and how gender criticals are stupid, boring, annoying, too reactive, care too much about identities, and should shut the f**k up. Enhanced with more swears than usual, this singular episode offers something to alienate everyone!

Cathy "Bug" Brennan on Twitter: https://twitter.com/bugbrennan

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Ask an Endocrinologist! with Dr. William Malone

Corinna Cohn — Tue, 21 Jun 2022 23:01:03 GMT

Why do people without gonads (or their function) need hormone replacement? How exactly do hormones affect bone health? Should clinicians who prescribe puberty blockers have more than 3 hours of training? How did historical eunuchs get by without hormone replacement? Are gonads the human body’s only source of sex steroids? How does a detransitioner or disenchanted transsexual find a decent endocrinologist? Does Nina have superior tendon insertion points? Was Corinna’s first endocrinologist inappropriately handsy? Dr. Will Malone, MD, generously and meticulously answers these questions and more on this much-anticipated episode!

Will Malone MD on Twitter: https://twitter.com/will_malone

Society for Evidence-Based Gender Medicine: https://www.segm.org/

ReThink Identity Medicine Ethics: https://rethinkime.org/

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Gender, Government, and Law with Candice Jackson

Corinna Cohn — Thu, 16 Jun 2022 13:49:48 GMT

Candice Jackson is an exceedingly smart, clear-thinking, plain-speaking, right-of-center lawyer who knows what sex is. From the Trump administration to the Women’s Liberation Front, she says gender ideology has broken through traditional left-right silos like nothing else. We discuss postmodernism in politics, religion (genderism) coinciding with plague (COVID), ideological purity, Democrats, Republicans, and how women in prison are affected when governments conflate sex and gender. Lively and information-packed, this conversation will make you want to make something great again, be it America or Anarchism.

Links:

WoLF: https://www.womensliberationfront.org/womens-prisons

Women’s Declaration International: https://www.womensdeclaration.com/en/

Twitter: https://twitter.com/CEJacksonLaw

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Practical Politics with Natasha Chart

Corinna Cohn — Fri, 10 Jun 2022 13:42:45 GMT

America suffers a paucity of effective women’s rights organizations. Personality conflicts, administrative scandals, and cancel culture can drive women away - only to find no alternatives. Asserting competition as the best way to dodge corruption, Natasha Chart proposes a solution: many more nonprofits, created by many more women. But first, she describes her journey from Jehova’s Witness to radical leftist to "normie"; her work on the ground in Washington DC; activists’ mutually exclusive dietary restrictions; "cowardice at the top"; and her love affair with the democratic process and representative government. Let a million (or at least a few dozen) feminist orgs bloom!

Links:

Natasha Chart’s web site: https://natashachart.com/

Practical Politics for Bold Women: https://chartconsulting.samcart.com/products/practical-politics-for-bold-women

IRS web site: https://www.irs.gov/charities-and-nonprofits

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Gender Warfare with Billboard Chris

Corinna Cohn — Tue, 31 May 2022 21:34:29 GMT

In the gender wars, Billboard Chris is a warrior, dropping truth bombs with military precision and engaging in mouth-to-ear combat on the ground. After placing informative billboards in major cities, he takes to the streets wearing a sandwich board emblazoned with “CHILDREN CANNOT CONSENT TO PUBERTY BLOCKERS”. Questions elicit blazes of fact-fire that may elicit shock, awe, or, in our case, nodding agreement. Nina struggles to find something - anything - to disagree about, while Corinna meekly suggests that Chris might burn out at some point. No chance of that! The fight goes on until gender surrenders.

https://www.billboardchris.com/

https://www.statsforgender.org/

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Can We Blame Women For Lousy Men?

Corinna Cohn — Fri, 27 May 2022 13:48:10 GMT

In this already-dated, 2-week-old recording, the Dorx once again express compassion for all medical transitioners, and discuss young male detransitioners in particular. Nina shares Too Much Information about her hysterectomy, and Corinna admits the benefits of neutering cats and humans. After arguing about who is responsible for the failures of men (Nina: it's men, Corinna: could be women), Nina mentions Female Dating Strategy, which could be the answer to both. Corinna wants more money, and Nina says it's tough being a canceled artist. Somehow we both thank everyone from the bottom of our hearts while saying humans suck and everyone should do better. That goes double for us!

Links:

Trans Journalists Association: https://transjournalists.org/

Female Dating Strategy: https://www.thefemaledatingstrategy.com/

Apocalypse Animated: https://apocalypseanimated.com/

Hundred Dollar Drawings (now $150): https://blog.ninapaley.com/hundred-dollar-drawing/

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The Joy of Intelligent Disagreement with Ryan Anderson

Corinna Cohn — Wed, 18 May 2022 20:19:25 GMT

Author & political philosopher Ryan Anderson is a Catholic conservative who staunchly opposes abortion rights and gay marriage. He is also a more engaging and productive conversationalist than 99% of modern “Liberals”. Disagreeing with respect and intelligence is not only possible, but fun - and it makes everyone look smarter, including the Dorx. Our conversation ranges from the Heritage Foundation, SOGI (can we separate the SO from the GI?), moral reasoning, healthcare reform, religion, book banning, “intergenerational love,” and the limits of liberties. With political enemies like this, who needs friends?

Links:

“Concerns form the Left” 2019 Heritage Foundation panel: https://www.heritage.org/event/the-inequality-the-equality-act-concerns-the-left

Hands Across the Aisle https://handsacrosstheaislewomen.com/home/

Colin Wright’s cartoon: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FEp4hdlVcAEjVhh.jpg

“When Harry Became Sally”: https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/when-harry-became-sally-ryan-anderson/1125792437

Amazon employees coping with Matt Walsh’s book “Johnny the Walrus”: https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/amazon-employee-matt-walsh-books

The Righteous Mind by Jonathan Haidt: https://righteousmind.com/

Tearing Us Apart: How Abortion Harms Everything and Solves Nothing: https://books.google.com/books/about/Tearing_Us_Apart.html?id=xeVTEAAAQBAJ&source=kp_book_description

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Extra Bonus Raw and Unedited Rantings

Corinna Cohn — Sun, 15 May 2022 18:59:58 GMT

The Dorx couldn't wait for Corinna to edit the 2 recorded episodes in the queue, so they had a spontaneous RAW & UNEDITED conversation and are slapping it up here WITHOUT COOKING OR EDITING! Yes, it's as uncooked as a 19-year-old's brain, which doesn't finish baking until age 25 or a toothpick inserted in the center comes out clean. We discuss transing as a social phenomenon, Fundamental Attribution Error, long pauses, male detransitioners, the white supremacist mass shooter in Buffalo, and the decline of American hegemony. Hopefully it'll stave off hunger until our next fine well-edited episodes come out of the oven. Bon appetit!

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Voluntary Human Extinction with Les U. Knight

Corinna Cohn — Thu, 12 May 2022 19:04:29 GMT

Which would hasten the Apocalypse faster: population decline, or population increase? Economists urge growth, but Les U Knight, discoverer of the Voluntary Human Extinction Movement, argues the peaceful, gradual elimination of humanity would be better for everyone - especially humanity itself. We discuss contraception, Insectageddon, donuts, the Demographic Transition Theory, ritual human sacrifice, and what would happen if we got rid of Netflix. May we Live Long and Die Out!

VHEMT web site: vhemt.org

Nina on the Jerry Springer show with the Church of Euthenasia in 1997: https://vimeo.com/235654079

Virginia Abernethy - Population Politics (which includes a debunking of the Demographic Transition Theory): https://books.google.com/books/about/Population_Politics.html?id=oJ4jngEACAAJ

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BioTrans with Kikomi

Corinna Cohn — Thu, 05 May 2022 15:58:14 GMT

In a very “meta” episode that probably won’t make sense to those not deeply involved in online transactivism, the Dorx speak with BioTransGirl Kikomi. Kikomi was Assigned Female At Birth (AFAB) and identifies as a man who identifies as a woman: a transwoman. We learn how BioTrans are even more marginalized and oppressed than trans, not even validated by Stonewall or the ACLU. Nina realizes she may be a BioTrans “egg”, but if she "comes out" she could face BioTransphobia or worse: biodetransition. Should she get vaginoplasty on her front hole? Does she have autoandrogynephelia? Will she replace Corinna as the One True Trans? Perhaps the most marginalized of all are the .02% of the population capable of getting these jokes.

Kikomi on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BioTransGirl

Kikomi comics: https://archive.org/details/kikomi/

BioTrans insufficiently welcome at Nina’s local bike club: https://blog.ninapaley.com/2022/03/21/cycling-and-gender-intersect-in-meaningful-ways/

TERF-Tranny Alliance: https://www.heterodorx.com/terftrannyalliance/

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Listener Questions

Corinna Cohn — Thu, 28 Apr 2022 16:30:05 GMT

Second time's a charm as the Dorx answer YOUR questions, after answering them a week earlier in a session that failed to record properly. What are our favorite podcasts? What would we have done differently? How is putting on a dress and having fake breasts different to blacking up and wearing an afro wig? Is there Right Wing creep in the GC movement? Is it too soon to hope? Do we have autogynephilia? Learn the answers to these questions and more on this hot, re-heated, re-recorded episode!

Links:

Grace Lavery interview: https://www.heterodorx.com/podcast/episode-26-trano-a-trano-with-grace-lavery/

Greg Dember on Metamodernism: https://www.heterodorx.com/podcast/episode-16-metamodernism-with-greg-dember/

Put Yourself First (In a Sexy Way): https://youtu.be/H2lmojePnA0

Andrea Dworkin - Right Wing Women: https://www.feministes-radicales.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Andrea-DWORKIN-Right-Wing-Women-The-Politics-of-Domesticated-Females-19831.pdf

University of Illinois requires DEI statements for tenure and promotion: https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2022/04/01/u-illinois-require-diversity-statements-tenure

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Autogynephilia with J Michael Bailey

Corinna Cohn — Tue, 19 Apr 2022 01:01:48 GMT

J Michael Bailey authored the seminal The Man Who Would Be Queen, which attempted to bring to a mainstream audience Blachard’s “Two Types” of male transsexuality: effeminate homosexuals, and autogynephiles, men sexually aroused at the idea of themselves as women. Is autogynephilia (AGP) a sexuality, a paraphilia, or both? Is male bisexuality linked to AGP? How common is AGP? (Bailey: “We don’t know.” Corinna: “Very, at tech conferences.”) What are the similarities between autogynephiles, furries, wannabe amputees, and "adult babies"? Can women be GAMPs? Are traps gay? What is up with adult AGP men favoring castrating AGP boys? Questions abound, but one thing is for certain: it’s one hell of a paraphilia.

The Man Who Would be Queen - free PDF download https://faculty.wcas.northwestern.edu/JMichael-Bailey/TMWWBQ.pdf

Michael Bailey on Google Scholar: https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=o_vo1p0AAAAJ&hl=en

https://psychology.northwestern.edu/people/faculty/core/profiles/michael-bailey.html

Nina’s San Francisco Sex-Postive Memoirs (again): https://4w.pub/sex-pos-memoirs/

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Calm and Wreasonable Colin Wright

Corinna Cohn — Tue, 05 Apr 2022 15:44:26 GMT

Evolutionary biologist and gender-critical free speech advocate Colin Wright tries to throw the Dorx a bone by introducing himself with bun/buns/bunself pronouns, but remains indisputably a paragon of calm reason. Our conversation calmly and reasonably meanders through Wright’s early cancelation, academia, social contagions and cycles of silence, saving women’s sports, whether social media is making us insane, and the resemblance of wokeism to creationism. Nina is lulled into such a calm state that she doesn’t even challenge Corinna and Colin when they question whether “Patriarchy” is a Thing. Is it possible to be TOO calm and reasonable? Listen in and find out!

Wright's Substack, Reality’s Last Stand: https://www.realityslaststand.com/

Wright’s cancelation story on Quillette: https://quillette.com/2020/07/30/think-cancel-culture-doesnt-exist-my-own-lived-experience-says-otherwise/

FAIR (Foundation Against Intolerance & Racism): https://www.fairforall.org/

Wright’s Twitter: https://mobile.twitter.com/SwipeWright/

Genderism descends on Nina’s local bike club: https://blog.ninapaley.com/2022/03/21/cycling-and-gender-intersect-in-meaningful-ways/

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Potty Mouths

Corinna Cohn — Mon, 28 Mar 2022 17:20:36 GMT

While some Radical Feminists consider bathrooms (aka toilets) a distraction from more salient and enforceable realms of prisons, shelters, sports, and therapeutic settings, for others they represent the front lines of women’s boundaries in public space. Nina and Corinna have an honest, long-postponed, and undoubtedly controversial discussion about the reality of who uses which toilets, when, and why. But first, they discuss how the TERF-Tranny Alliance is accelerating the Apocalypse, the history of the term “gender critical,” and the difference between “pet trans” and actual pets. This episode is sure to piss off just about everyone!

TERF-Tranny Alliance: https://www.heterodorx.com/terftrannyalliance/

Genspect Detransition webinar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnvZvqwIR7o

Ideological Totalism: https://theradicalnotion.org/ideological-totalism-left-and-right/

Does Sex Matter? 2019 panel discussion at the Urbana Free Library, featuring Corinna Cohn, Carey Callahan, and Nina Paley.

Talk: https://youtu.be/RguD61siLB8

Q & A: https://vimeo.com/326585294

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Cynthia Breheny Literally Erases by Drawing

Corinna Cohn — Wed, 23 Mar 2022 20:08:15 GMT

The Dorx chat with Cynthia Breheny, a sexist, racist, and transphobic artist who perverts free speech and art as a means to hurt people. OR DOES SHE?? Perhaps she’s a sweet, young, unusually moderate illustrator with her own interesting history of gender dysphoria and heterodox gender-diverse friends. Nina, as Elder Artist and TERF, imparts her aged wisdom upon the young’un, while Corinna is unafraid to face accusations of “erasing” kinky toddlers. Is there hope for the future? Maybe!

Cynthia Breheny of Twitter: https://twitter.com/PTElephant

Website: https://www.ptelephant.com/

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MK Fain Wants to Keep Fighting

Corinna Cohn — Thu, 17 Mar 2022 15:03:09 GMT

Corinna and Nina welcome back MK Fain, creator of women's social network Spinster.xyz and online feminist news publication 4w.pub. Life has dished out some tough lessons in the intervening 10 months, and Fain is a fast learner. She shares newfound wisdom about having a life outside “the Movement,” purity spirals, Truth mills, scapegoating, infighting, fracturing, and cults. After resolving not to join anything in 2022, Fain becomes the newest member of the TERF-Tranny Alliance, and Nina looks forward to Death. Then the Dorx get philosophical about the difference between oppressors and leaders, the nature of human hierarchies, telling the truth as well as questioning it, writer’s block, and spaying and neutering our pets — and ourselves. Somehow all this inspires Fain to continue her fight for justice; maybe she'll inspire you too.

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Bully-Proofing the Grown-ups with Stella O’Malley

Corinna Cohn — Mon, 07 Mar 2022 21:54:27 GMT

After Nina goes on about copyright abolition again, our delightful guest discusses her new book, Bully-Proof Kids (© Stella O’Malley 2022). All the adults in this conversation have been - and are currently being - bullied by other adults; will techniques for kids and families work for us too? The power to make or break bullies is in the hands of bystanders, whom O’Malley urges to become upstanders. Nina and Corinna are cynical as ever, and at one point the Dorx sound like mental patients arguing with their therapist. Did we mention O’Malley is a therapist? She’s got her work cut out for her, in this episode and beyond!

Bully-Proof Kids: http://www.stellaomalley.com/bullyproof-kids

The TERF-Tranny Alliance: https://www.heterodorx.com/terftrannyalliance/

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Tokens of the Apocalypse

Corinna Cohn — Thu, 17 Feb 2022 16:28:30 GMT

Corinna surprises Nina with a spontaneous “Fresh Air”-style interview about Apocalypse Animated, her just-completed project. They discuss hairy Semites, the W***e of Babylon, vaginal symbolism of the New Jerusalem, depicting fire, tesseracts, a cute Lamb, galloping horses, and Corinna’s new career as an activist. Corinna has now testified twice in favor of Indiana House Bill 1041, which seeks to prohibit boys from girls’ school athletics teams. Does Corinna’s voice carry more authority as a transsexual? Unfortunately yes, because even though we all know tokenism is unfair and wrong, it is the coin of the identity politics realm.

Indiana House Bill 1041: http://iga.in.gov/legislative/2022/bills/house/1041

Corinna’s first testimony: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CZDobmmiNlg

Apocalypse Animated: https://apocalypseanimated.com/

Muybridge horse quilt: https://blog.ninapaley.com/2015/04/29/horse-quiltimation/

Theo’s Entrepreneurial Research & Fabrication Space: https://www.palegraylabs.com/

NO TERFS: https://spinster.xyz/@ninapaley/posts/AGR6XS3UEkgHtJ2VbE

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True Faith with Aaron Rabinowitz

Corinna Cohn — Wed, 09 Feb 2022 15:30:25 GMT

Aaron Rabinowitz identifies as an atheist, skeptic, and philosopher. He’s also a faithful trans ally, and considers the adjective “religious” an insult. Acutely aware of his cisheteronormative privilege, he willingly sacrifices himself on the altar of Heterodorx because “my humanity is not being questioned in this particular debate.” The resultant conversation is even more fascinating than it is long (1:46, our longest yet!). Listen closely and you just might have a religious experience.

Embrace the Void podcast: https://voidpod.com/podcasts

Philosophers in Space podcast: https://0gphilosophy.libsyn.com/

Aaron Rabinowitz at The Skeptic: https://www.skeptic.org.uk/author/aaronrabinowitz/

I Enjoy Being a Girl: https://youtu.be/iEW_nXwWvd4

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Cancel Klatch with Razib Khan

Corinna Cohn — Sun, 06 Feb 2022 14:16:22 GMT

Razib Khan is a Bangladeshi-American writer in population genetics and consumer genomics (wikipedia). He identifies as a Coconut, and is a repeat member of Club Cancel, getting denounced by friends and associates approximately every 6 months. He and the Dorx start the episode by erasing as many ethnicities, religions, and genders as they can. Then Khan recounts the sorry tale of Scientific American (a science fiction magazine) and late great biologist E.O. Wilson. Our smart and funny guest is all bravado and self-confidence until Nina asks him to define “woman,” the question that brings even the toughest intellectuals to their knees.

Setting the record straight: open letter on E.O. Wilson's legacy: https://razib.substack.com/p/setting-the-record-straight-open

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Upperhand Mars and Team TERF’s Moving Goalposts

Corinna Cohn — Mon, 31 Jan 2022 15:48:19 GMT

Trans YouTuber, media manager of Gender Dysphoria Alliance, and eminent voice of reason Mars F has long been a target of more extreme trans rights activists; now Mars is also receiving abuse from "the other side." “Transmen are our sisters” is an old TERF saying, but some aren’t acting very sisterly today. Mars also shares some cringey transition delusions from more naive times; a personal account of testosterone’s health consequences; and the secret of looking young (“don’t stay up late and don’t do crack”). Relax and enjoy the soothing sound of reasonable people talking reasonably.

Mars’s Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK792gI7-zEik0tB1Ok0l6Q

Mars on Twitter: https://twitter.com/UpperhandMars

Gender Dysphoria Alliance: https://www.genderdysphoriaalliance.com/

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Carole Hooven

Corinna Cohn — Thu, 27 Jan 2022 01:14:14 GMT

The Dorx enjoy a lively and information-packed conversation with Dr. Carole Hooven, author of T: The Story of Testosterone, the Hormone that Dominates and Divides Us. Curious and compassionate, she expresses grief that Corinna never got a chance to f**k his brains out with other boys. Nina is full of questions: can females have Complete Androgen Insensitivity? What happens to ovaries in menopause? How do you define woman? Hooven wants to know what made Nina “peak trans,” so Nina briefly recounts her TERFening in 2017-2018. Corinna, who needs to eat more carbs and put on some body fat because endogenous sex steroid production relies on cholesterol, shares some thoughts on non-binary identities, after which the conversation culminates in how awesome Heterodorx is. This episode is guaranteed to make you smarter!

http://www.carolehooven.com/

https://twitter.com/hoovlet/

https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250236067/tthestoryoftestosteronethehormonethatdominatesanddividesus

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GAMPs, Pr0n, trans, and the Conservation of Evil

Corinna Cohn — Wed, 19 Jan 2022 02:14:36 GMT

After Nina expresses admiration for the insult “Haterodorx”, Corinna - “one of the good ones” - expresses concern about the inevitable backlash coming for trans people. We learn about GAMPs: GynoAndroMorphPhiles, and the “chicks with dicks” they fetishize. Corinna makes Nina watch some horrible TikTok videos so they can discuss young people sexualizing themselves for visual consumption. Then the Dorx examine porn’s influence on the “trans community” and young people in general, staying remarkably lighthearted in spite of the dismal subject matter. This episode 100% passes!

Song: “Penis Envy” by Uncle Bonsai: https://youtu.be/ByE5Bc70w44

Heterodorx (aka Corinna) on Twitter: https://twitter.com/heterodorx

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The Heterodorx 2021 Year in Review

Corinna Cohn — Sat, 01 Jan 2022 00:21:51 GMT

The Dorx take a trip down memory lane, scanning the show notes of every single episode straight from the web site, and wondering in awe at this podcast’s dazzling journey from three to sixteen listeners in under a year. Thanks for listening to and supporting us, TERFs and Trannies, and have a great 2022!

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Alice Dreger's Middle Finger*

Corinna Cohn — Fri, 24 Dec 2021 15:39:36 GMT

The Dorx welcome Alice Dreger, author of the excellent Galileo’s Middle Finger. Dreger discusses Intersex as a political identity, what makes her feel like a woman, the trials of puberty, lactose intolerance, the importance of talking to kids about sexual pleasure, and East Lansing Info, a model local journalism organization she founded. Then she talks about “discriminatory and hateful” segregation in sports. Hold onto your hats!

*Some people are born with more than 10 fingers; others with fewer. Whether due to genetic anomolies or amputation, some have no fingers at all. So who are we to say what a “middle finger” even is?

Galileo’s Middle Finger https://alicedreger.com/GMF

East Lansing Info https://eastlansinginfo.news/

Alice in Genderland https://aliceingenderland.com/

What’s Happening to Me https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/141764._What_s_Happening_to_Me_A_Guide_to_Puberty

How Babies Are Made https://www.amazon.com/How-Babies-Made-Steven-Schepp/dp/1626541043

Nina’s Sex-Positive Memoirs https://4w.pub/sex-pos-memoirs/

Heterodorx interview with Grace Lavery (who also declines to define 'woman'): https://www.heterodorx.com/podcast/episode-26-trano-a-trano-with-grace-lavery/

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Elizabeth Hungerford

Corinna Cohn — Fri, 17 Dec 2021 15:33:18 GMT

The Dorx speak with attorney and feminist Elizabeth Hungerford, co-author of a seminal 2011 letter to the UN about gender identity’s impacts on sex-based rights. Should feminists ally with conservatives? Should genderism be classified as a religion? Do we criticize gender, or abolish it? Is sex-blindness a spectrum? Who wears a potato sack better, Corinna or Nina? Is it easier to fool men than women, about sex? Can taboos be beneficial? Hungerford bravely withstands being mint-chocolate-chip-shamed by Nina, in this gentle, respectful, and deep exchange of ideas and “yucking someone else’s yum.”

Cathy Brennan and Elizabeth Hungerford letter to the UN: https://sexnotgender.com/gender-identity-legislation-and-the-erosion-of-sex-based-legal-protections-for-females/

The Radical Notion: https://theradicalnotion.org/

Detransition: Beyond Before and After by Max Robinson: https://www.spinifexpress.com.au/shop/p/9781925950403

Feminist Ethics by Sarah Hoagland: https://www.sarahhoagland.com/sarahhoaglandles.html

Male/Female face optical illusion: https://www.opticalspy.com/opticals/male-or-female-face-optical-illusion

Yummy Yuck (children's book): https://www.amazon.com/Yummy-Yuck-Amanda-Jane-Jones/dp/3791374052/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=yuck+and+yum&qid=1639705440&sr=8-1

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The Grift Episode

Corinna Cohn — Tue, 30 Nov 2021 00:44:46 GMT

Corinna and Nina discuss podcast-related expenses, such as microphone covers, multi-track remote recording service, and Fried Tofu w Numb Oil. For the first time, the Dorx ask for donations, but only for a few minutes, after which they change the subject to JK Rowling’s Twitter namechecks and the importance of talking to your godchildren about the transcult. Nina confronts her Internalized Transphobia and learns about Inner Pronouns, while Corinna reveals his many deadnames, and the sock-shaped hole in his heart. Then they ask for money again, before talking about used handkerchiefs. It’s the kind of quality content worth supporting!

Donate to Heterodorx at https://anchor.fm/heterodorx

Golden Harbor #807 Fried Tofu w Numb Oil https://www.goldenharboronline.com/menus

https://www.patreon.com/ninapaley

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Abolishing Gender, not Sex, with Kara Dansky

Corinna Cohn — Fri, 19 Nov 2021 20:07:59 GMT

The Dorx welcome lawyer, gender abolitionist, and fierce feminist Kara Dansky, who has just released a new book, The Abolition of Sex: How the “Transgender” Agenda Harms Women and Girls. Dansky fills us in on the ACLU’s “unlikely allies,” the disgraceful biases and failures of American mainstream media, and that she might soon drop the term “Gender Critical.” It’s a stimulating, challenging, and thought-provoking conversation.

Links:

https://www.amazon.com/Abolition-Sex-Transgender-Agenda-Harms/dp/1637582293

https://nypost.com/2021/03/27/prof-who-refused-transgender-students-pronouns-wins-in-court/

https://slate.com/human-interest/2015/12/gender-critical-trans-women-the-apostates-of-the-trans-rights-movement.html

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/08/04/woman-2

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Bad Science with Maneesh Yadav

Corinna Cohn — Sun, 14 Nov 2021 20:17:53 GMT

Maneesh Yadav has a PhD in…SCIENCE! Chemistry, to be precise, and his favorite molecule is porphine. Is that enough expertise to guide Nina through the morass of COVID misinformation confronting her online? From Tamiflu and arsenic life, to calling women “bodies with vaginas”, the Dorx explore why science journals and institutions have lost so much credibility in recent years, and how we might find our way when we need reliable scientific evidence more than ever.

Links:

Tamiflu

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4375804/

Arsenic Life

https://www.nbcnews.com/science/cosmic-log/arsenic-life-debate-still-percolates-flna6C10402703

Can’t Get You Out Of My Head (Adam Curtis)

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13973190/

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Down the Motherhood Well with Lisa Marchiano

Corinna Cohn — Fri, 05 Nov 2021 14:29:50 GMT

Jungian analyst Lisa Marchiano takes the Dorx on a journey through myth and folktales as she discusses stories from her recent book, Motherhood. Following the classic arc of descent and return, Corinna drops the sarcasm for literally minutes before noting the sexist and exclusionary title. Nina promises to ban this deep and compelling tome, because as a non-mother it’s not specifically about her. This is an unusually profound and calming episode, so definitely don’t buy this book or check it out of a library near you!

https://lisamarchiano.com/books/

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How Inclusive is Misogyny?

Corinna Cohn — Thu, 28 Oct 2021 20:43:36 GMT

In this episode of Heterodorx, Nina tries very very hard not to say “y’know,” because Corinna no longer edits out her verbal tics. As a result, she speaks unusually slowly, thoughtfully, and almost as sarcastically as Corinna. Thus disciplined, the two dutifully slog away at conversation, discussing Dave Chapelle, the definition of misogyny, power, corruption, “respectability politics,” “conservative humor,” media gaslighting, and wearing “male garb” at the Rennaissance Faire. It’s worth a listen, y’know?

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Woke Antisemitism with Andrew Pessin

Corinna Cohn — Mon, 18 Oct 2021 17:42:59 GMT

The Dorx welcome lively philosophy professor and author Andrew Pessin, whose recent satirical novel about campus culture, Nevergreen, humorously conveys the horror of getting cancelled. This inevitably leads to discussion of the Anti-Defamation League’s “Pryramid of Hate,” which, by the end of the episode, Nina deftly synthesizes with the USDA’s Food Pyramid. Corinna asserts, “universities are in the business of transferring wealth from students to administrators,” and repeatedly declares he is NOT JEWISH, unlike Andrew (a Zionist) and Nina (not a Zionist), who blithely argue about Zionism the way only a couple American Jews can.

Links:

Andrew Pessin’s website: https://andrewpessin.com/

Nevergreen: https://andrewpessin.com/nevergreen/

ADL Pyramid of Hate: https://www.adl.org/sites/default/files/documents/pyramid-of-hate.pdf

USDA Food Pyramid: https://fns-prod.azureedge.net/sites/default/files/archived_projects/FGPLargeGIF.gif

This Land Is Mine: https://vimeo.com/50531435

From Seder-Masochism: https://vimeo.com/263398514

Nina on hate: Love Thine Enemy https://blog.ninapaley.com/2021/09/27/love-thy-enemy/

Nina relates Zionism to Transactivism: https://blog.ninapaley.com/2018/02/07/gender_colonialism/

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Gettin' Philosophical with Alex Byrne

Corinna Cohn — Thu, 30 Sep 2021 16:09:43 GMT

The Dorx interrogate MIT Professor Alex Byrne, to find out what the heck happened to academic Philosophy. But first, Corinna identifies as some brand of chocolate. Alex illuminates Feminist Philosophy, differences between philosophers, and the mental aspects of his beer, while Corinna asserts the immutability of sex and mens’ eagerness to eject their “feminine” brothers from the male sex class. Finally, Nina detransitions from humanhood and re-identifies as a Martian.

Alex Byrne’s Philosophy: Minds and Machines: https://youtu.be/DfgCJR7xKQ0

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Goin' Tribal with Derrick Jensen

Corinna Cohn — Tue, 21 Sep 2021 15:27:13 GMT

Derrick “Kid Kaboom” Jenson, author of 10,000 books translated into 2,000 languages, shares both untrue and true stories about the environmental movement, and why “Sustainable Development” is an oxymoron. After a short break for Derrick to get wild bears to stop banging on his windows, the Dorx discuss the heartbreak of witnessing the destruction of wild habitats and the suffering of nonhuman species. Later, they try to define religion, and debate whether “a language is a dialect with an army, a religion is a cult with a state.” The conversation is so much fun that Corinna, Nina, and Derrick form a little cult of their own!

Derrick Jensen’s website: https://derrickjensen.org/

Bright Green Lies: https://www.brightgreenlies.com/book

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Return of the Fox

Corinna Cohn — Mon, 13 Sep 2021 01:11:12 GMT

Returning guest Angus Fox calls our interview with Grace Lavery a “public service to Philosophy.” Nina offers a “forever home” for Corinna as a “pet trans,” keeping his food and water dishes filled and even letting him run off leash occasionally. Then the Dorx discuss testoterone, chemical castration, Alan Turing, male vs female detransitioner communities, socialization theory, and euphemisms like “hormone replacement,” “gender affirmation surgery” and “trans kids.” Angus asserts a moral obligation to mock, and Corinna recalls being felt up by his first endocrinologist, whom he describes as “a cross between Dr. Ruth and Dr. Frankenstein.” Women are overrepresented in “trans medicine” surgery, compared to surgery as a whole; Nina wants to know why. All that and more in a mere hour and twenty seven minutes.

Our Grace Lavery episode: https://www.heterodorx.com/podcast/episode-26-trano-a-trano-with-grace-lavery/

Christine Lavin - Sensitive New Age Guys: https://youtu.be/dnKK4ULoMB8

Angus Fox’s Quillette series on transing boys: https://quillette.com/author/angus-fox/

Genspect, a voice for parents with gender-questioning kids: https://genspect.org/

Contact Angus: angus@genspect.org

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Meghan Murphy and the "Mean Girls" of Feminism

Corinna Cohn — Wed, 01 Sep 2021 17:09:53 GMT

Prominent feminist writer and podcaster Meghan Murphy discusses being attacked not only by typical opponents, but by some feminists too.

Feminist Current: https://www.feministcurrent.com/

The Butthurt-Reaction Cycle: https://blog.ninapaley.com/2019/10/31/the-butthurt-reaction-cycle/

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Back from Break!

Corinna Cohn — Tue, 24 Aug 2021 15:58:57 GMT

After a 3-week hiatus, Corinna and Nina discuss the book Cynical Theories by Helen Pluckrose and James Lindsay. Nina takes a more nuanced approach to Judith Butler, discovering something she said that isn’t utter nonsense. Corinna questions “misogyny” and “patriarchy,” and challenges Nina’s “feminist lens,” after which Nina tells Corinna to f__k himself. It’s good to be back!

Links:

Glenn Loury and John McWhorter discuss “What’s Systemic about Systemic Racism?" https://bloggingheads.tv/videos/62356

Cynical Theories by Helen Pluckrose and James Lindsay: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/53052177-cynical-theories?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=KkQQGeLMwg&rank=1

T: The Story of Testosterone, the Hormone that Dominates and Divides Us by Carole Hooven: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/53138024-t?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=w99uXfWC9E&rank=1

The Righteous Mind: Why Good People Are Divided by Politics and Religion by Jonathan Haidt: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/11324722-the-righteous-mind?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=ieRWcm8zhB&rank=1

Trans: When Ideology Meets Reality by Helen Joyce: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/56897445-trans?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=P6HMcwJBU0&rank=1

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America’s Most Undercompensated Detranssexual with Grace Lidinsky-Smith

Corinna Cohn — Mon, 26 Jul 2021 18:59:06 GMT

Just one week after interviewing someone else with the same first name and last initial, the Dorx chat with the totally different, not-to-be-confused-with Grace Lidinsky-Smith: writer, female detransitioner, and President of GCCAN, the Gender Care Consumer Advocacy Network. Because both Grace and Corinna were assigned nerd at birth, they talk about Renaissance Faires, including Corinna’s Victor-Victoria-esque plan to wear “male garb” at his next one. Then Nina becomes a jock because both nerds regard her as one. Grace asks if Nina is “naturally high-T,” and Nina realizes she’s never had her hormone levels tested, but she praises menopause and disparages youth. Corinna introduces Heterodorx Poetry Time by reading Little Abigail and the Beautiful Pony by Shel Siverstein. The mood remains light even as Grace talks about having her nipples put back on lopsided after her double mastectomy, because people who have been through heavy s**t use humor to cope.

Grace Lidinsky-Smith on Twitter: https://twitter.com/HormoneHangover

Grace Lidinsky-Smith’s substack: https://hormonehangover.substack.com/

Little Abigail and the Beautiful Pony by Shel Silverstein: https://allpoetry.com/Little-Abigail-and-the-Beautiful-Pony

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Trano-a-Trano with Grace Lavery

Corinna Cohn — Thu, 22 Jul 2021 17:21:57 GMT

Corinna arranges a conversation with Grace Lavery, associate professor at UC Berkeley and outspoken trans activist. The result is almost as limitless and formless as what a "woman" is.

Grace Lavery: https://english.berkeley.edu/profiles/386

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Homosexual Heterodorkery with Angus Fox

Corinna Cohn — Tue, 13 Jul 2021 16:29:12 GMT

The Dorx welcome funny and charming writer Angus Fox, whose recent work focuses on the transing of boys. Because they both have described their younger selves as the type of boy likely to identify as trans today, Nina asks why Corinna transitioned and Angus did not. This begins a discussion of the influence of internet chatrooms and media, how masculine men exclude their effeminate brothers, and the role of girls in transing boys. Angus wonders how much misogynistic genderism is explained by the prevalence of porn, and how much is because boys are idiots. Nina goes out on a limb and claims men are human, while Corinna and Angus further alienate our feminist listeners by blaming women for “gender woo.” It’s a refreshing twist on the usual “kill all the men” sentiment, and as heterodorx as two homosexual men can be.

Angus Fox’s Quillette series on transing boys: https://quillette.com/author/angus-fox/

Genspect, a voice for parents with gender-questioning kids: https://genspect.org/

Contact Angus: angus@genspect.org

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Olympic Sarcasm

Corinna Cohn — Thu, 08 Jul 2021 16:07:47 GMT

The Heterodorx co-horses are eager to compete in the Olympics, in either Equestrian Tennis or Sarcasm. Nina realizes if she identifies as a man, her bicycling performance will improve by 22% - it’s science! After an adorable interruption by Nina’s cat, Corinna shares some reader feedback and Nina disparages elective cosmetic surgery. Finally, a discussion about COVID, Long COVID, vaccine skepticism, preference falsification, and Voluntary Human Extinction end the podcast on a typically high note.

Nina’s cat Lola: https://youtu.be/t89bGOrWmew

The Voluntary Human Extinction Movement: http://vhemt.org/

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Trash Talk

Corinna Cohn — Mon, 28 Jun 2021 02:10:53 GMT

Corinna and Nina discuss trashing, which is what feminists called canceling before there was canceling. Nina admits she performs gender, but not enough to be “ladyike.” When the topic suddenly pivots to antinatalism, Nina declares herself a species traitor but not a class traitor. Corinna claims to be a “human ally,” and points out that when it comes to male sterilization, there is a vas deferens between half- and full commitment. Is our primary purpose to reproduce, to eat and poop, or something else? So deep, man.

TRASHING: The Dark Side of Sisterhood: https://www.jofreeman.com/joreen/trashing.htm

THE BABY BOON by Elinor Burkett: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/7397.The_Baby_Boon

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Karen Davis Isn't Kidding

Corinna Cohn — Mon, 21 Jun 2021 00:54:59 GMT

The Dorx welcome musician, teacher, YouTuber, and gender-critical feminist Karen Davis to discuss funeral homes, fetishes, firing, and fun. It’s a characteristically lively conversation for Karen, whose YouTube channel is at https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYj9xEuFEQORfVK3k1kPxQw Enjoy!

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What If We Win?

Corinna Cohn — Sun, 13 Jun 2021 17:19:43 GMT

The Dorx celebrate Maya Forstater’s Free Speech victory in the UK. Are the ideological tides finally turning? Nina contemplates the dissolution of friendships if the pressure of fighting against insanity is lifted. Corinna worries that Gender Critical extremists will “go after trans people.” This gradually leads to an argument about the Aimee Stephens case, in which a funeral home employee was fired for being trans - or was it for being male and violating the dress code? A TERF vs. Tranny conflict ensues, as the Dorx fail, but sincerely try, to understand each other. But in the end they are united by their common commitment to liberty, as well as their mysteriously off-putting personalities.

Maya Forstater wins: https://web.archive.org/web/20210611082614/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/06/10/maya-forstaters-victory-injects-good-sense-toxic-trans-debate/

MK Fain fired in 2019: https://4w.pub/fired-for-feminism/

WoLF’s amicus brief in the Aimee Stephens case: https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/18/18-107/112909/20190820130044873_WoLF%20Amicus%20Harris%20v%20EEOC%20as%20filed.pdfWoLF’s page discussing it: https://www.womensliberationfront.org/news/domoavbcjg7trx092iyjgk9r7c9rpq

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True Trans, Good Trans, TRUSCUM, Authentic Trans, Imitation Crab, and Basketballs

Corinna Cohn — Mon, 07 Jun 2021 14:50:40 GMT

The sarcasm flows like California wine as Nina and Corinna tilt their heads and discuss what the heck “true trans” might mean. On the subject of “passing,” Nina forgets to mention this quote, often attributed to PT Barnum, that sums up her position: "You can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time." Then, in a dazzling display of creativity, the Dorx think of an improved Inclusive Flag that can be incorporated into fashionable shirts, and conceive a Charlotte Clymer Memorial statue. Nina looks forward to attending an upcoming women’s-only gathering in Michigan, while Corinna recalls having dined with not one but two future murderers, both of whom just happened to be…Californian.

Dana Rivers: https://www.karadansky.com/state-v-dana-rivers-updates

The Californians: https://youtu.be/dCer2e0t8r8

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Serious Sixty and Sarcasmagoria

Corinna Cohn — Tue, 01 Jun 2021 00:42:09 GMT

In this special episode (they’re ALL special! And valid!) the opening Heterodorx theme song is sung by Corinna, who unwittingly promotes a new LGBT breakfast cereal before discussing a recent episode of 60 Minutes that invoked the fury of Kellogg’s partner GLAAD (along with the ACLU, HRC, and other Men’s Rights activists). Nina cries herself to sleep over Corinna’s tragic and pathetic life; Corinna identifies as an Aquarius while Nina is Astro-nonconforming; and the Dorx are stumped by a puzzling question on Corinna’s tennis lesson application.

60 Minutes “State Bills Would Curtail Health Care For Transgender Youth”: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/transgender-health-care-60-minutes-2021-05-23/

Corinna on Femsplainers (second half): https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/when-sons-become-daughters-part-one/id1366430955?i=1000522118038

GCCAN: https://www.gccan.org/

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A Black Band-Aid for White Guilt with Chris Waites

Corinna Cohn — Mon, 24 May 2021 01:07:29 GMT

Chris Waites is an Amateur Open-Mic Comedian, professional Grocery Shelf-Stocker, mild-mannered provocateur, and self-described “Nobody”. After sorting out Chris’s pronouns, the Dorx discuss BANDAIDGATE. Are “regular” Band-Aids “white”? Are “black” Band-Aids “black”? Are any humans the same color as Band-Aids? What happens when a black man questions the wisdom of chocolate band-aids on fecebook? Nina suggests “fitting in” is a neoliberal Capitalist plot, while Chris learns he is "privileged" to not have to think about race constantly, unlike his long-suffering liberal white allies. The Dorx also discuss how people suppress their individuality within tribes; the difference between allies and friends; “Golem-ing”; getting drunk on White Guilt; and Corinna’s Black Power Fist facial tattoo.

BandAidGate: https://www.facebook.com/nina.paley/posts/10159803364887642

Square Pegs theme song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldkNnT1SuvE

The Age of White Guilt by Shelby Steele: https://blog.ninapaley.com/2019/08/18/the-age-of-white-guilt-and-the-disappearance-of-the-black-individual-by-shelby-steele/

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The Dorx Don't Save The World

Corinna Cohn — Mon, 17 May 2021 23:13:33 GMT

Our more-or-less Jewish hosts share their sub-optimally-informed opinions about conflict in the Middle East. Perhaps the colonization of Palestine could be resisted by misgendering Israelis? But first, Corinna talks about why Ellen DeGeneres doesn’t belong in Hollywood. Later, Corinna plugs Target’s new queer-branded product line, and threatens to buy Nina an “ALLY” t-shirt. Corinna is propositioned in Corinna’s ‘hood (notice how I’m avoiding pronouns here? awkward!), and donates to Nina’s MysicSymbolic project by mistaking it for a transition fund. Throughout, the Dorx’s extreme and relentless sarcasm makes much of the discussion incomprehensible to anyone but them. Enjoy!

links:

This Land Is Mine: https://vimeo.com/50531435

MysticSymbolic crowdfunder: https://www.gofundme.com/f/mysticsymbolic-development

Andrea Dworkin on the Sexual Revolution: https://blog.ninapaley.com/2019/08/23/andrea-dworkin-on-the-sexual-revolution/

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Metamodernism with Greg Dember

Corinna Cohn — Mon, 10 May 2021 18:28:59 GMT

Metamodernism is a response to Postmodernism, which is a response to Modernism, which is a response to Traditionalism. The Dorx discuss that and more with Greg Dember, one of Metamodernism’s leading experts. Nina wants to know if her movies Sita Sings the Blues and Seder-Masochism are metamodern, and Greg obliges with an answer! (Spoiler: yes.) After Nina compares metamodernist media to porn, using the metaphor of “the money shot,” Greg suggests she might have her very own episteme. Corinna identifies as post-postmodernist, which is another way to say 'irredeemably sarcastic'. In spite of the Dorx’s cynicism (postmodern) and their guest’s optimism (metamodern), they enjoy a fun, fruitful, intellectual conversation, and conclude, “identity is the metamodern problem.”

https://whatismetamodern.com

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With Allies Like These, Who Needs Axes?

Corinna Cohn — Mon, 03 May 2021 02:14:56 GMT

This lighthearted, rollicking episode opens with Nina posting Corinna’s rant “Against Allies” (from last week’s episode) on fecebook, to the chagrin of some “allies”. (The next day, Nina gets a 24-hour fecebook ban for “hate speech.”) Then Nina and Corinna discuss the political indoctrination, or lack thereof, of their respective childhoods. They go on to cover how advocacy groups reduce diversity, the discovery of a “third race,” the retraction of Richard Dawkins’ decades-old Humanist award, the idolization of the Gender Unicorn, and whether “It’s Always OK to Ask Someone Their Gender Pronouns!” Finally, they segue into “Meta-Modernism,” the topic of next week’s episode. Fun!

Four Arguments For The Elimination of Television by Jerry Mander: http://www.nelligennet.com/televisionjerrymander.pdf

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Against Allies

Corinna Cohn — Mon, 26 Apr 2021 00:16:55 GMT

This week's mercifully short episode opens with both Nina and Corinna exhausted from dealing with Internet b******t. Corinna talks about being drawn into the manipulative abuse of a transphobic gay man on Clubhouse. Nina reminisces about an organization that used to exist to help poor women have access to reproductive health resources. In between, Corinna goes on a magnificent rant against "allies," which should be bronzed for posterity. If you listen to only 2 minutes of Heterodorx, start at 08:00 of this episode.

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Dorking Out With Jayson Graham

Corinna Cohn — Mon, 19 Apr 2021 01:42:22 GMT

Note: This special episode is presented principally in the Russian language. This week Nina and Corinna talk with Corinna’s old friend, Jayson Graham. We talk about the process of marketing creative works, the role copyright may (or may not) play in establishing one’s marketability, and whether or not social media might be destroying America.

The M. Jayson Graham Show https://anchor.fm/m-jayson-graham-show/

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Kickin’ it Old-Skool with Miranda F@%#*&g Yardley

Corinna Cohn — Mon, 12 Apr 2021 00:44:04 GMT

Corinna and Nina enjoy a delightful conversation with ~~stunning and brave~~ intelligent and funny transsexual Miranda Yardley, author of such memorable bons mots as, "lighten up trannies, this used to be fun" and "a quick note on pronouns: I don't give a s**t." While Miranda and Corinna recall alarming changes in the trans community over recent decades, Nina sadistically oppresses both of them with her cishet privilege. Joking aside, Miranda has been the target of some extreme b******t, online and more importantly in the English courts, and shares some war stories here.

Miranda's blog: https://mirandayardley.com/en/

Nina's 1997 appearance (as "Grace,"with the Church of Euthenasia) on Jerry Springer: https://vimeo.com/manage/videos/235654079

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Anger Management for Online Stupidity

Corinna Cohn — Sat, 03 Apr 2021 23:46:28 GMT

Nina discusses how she manages rage with the heat of a thousand suns triggered by Internet b******t she shouldn’t care that much about. Corinna confesses to some high-running emotions after an encounter with b******t on the new app Clubhouse. At 27:35 Nina mis-sexes a male who is definitely not a pedophile, and at 32:00 she goes on an important rant against coerced pronouns. Finally, she declares a new identity as a CERC (pronounced “curse”).

Graham Linehan’s substack: https://grahamlinehan.substack.com/

Nina’s argument tweets: https://spinster.xyz/@ninapaley/posts/A5jcIonm22fqw6apVo

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I.P. Everywhere! Featuring Guest Heterodork Stephan Kinsella

Corinna Cohn — Mon, 29 Mar 2021 22:24:22 GMT

Get ready for some hardcore Libertarian nerd-talk, as Corinna goes head-to-head with Stephan Kinsella, Libertarianism’s foremost critic of copyright and patents and author of Against Intellectual Property. Thrill to dazzling theories of labor vs. action, restrictive covenants, negative easements, burdened estates, nuisances, limitations, consent, redistribution of rights, triangular intervention, property, scarcity, value, allocation of contestable resources, conflict, trade secrets, the Patent Bargain, disclosure, distortion, abolishing the FDA…wait, what? By the end of the episode, Corinna suffers a long-overdue crisis of faith. SUCCESS!

Heterodorx Gets Schooled by MK Fain

Corinna Cohn — Mon, 22 Mar 2021 01:21:04 GMT

Corinna and Nina discover what happens when they interview someone more articulate than either of them: MK Fain, the youthful Doyenne of feminist social media. She is the founder of Spinster.xyz, co-founder of Ovarit, publisher of 4w.pub, and co-host of the Identity Crisis podcast. We touch on free speech and pornography, and its upcoming technology frontier. As the discussion goes into intellectual property, MK corrects Corinna’s misconceptions of who really benefits from copyrights.

Find MK on Spinster: https://spinster.xyz/@mk

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Guest Heterodork Alex Gleason, the Johnny Appleseed of Social Networks

Corinna Cohn — Sat, 13 Mar 2021 20:45:58 GMT

Heterodorx welcomes its first guest, serial social network creator Alex Gleason. Alex created Soapbox.FE, the software running feminist social media platform spinster.xyz and Nina’s own neenster.org, among others. His next project, Tribes, aims to make it easy and painless for anyone to start their own fediverse server by pushing a few buttons. The Dorx cover technology, the sociology of social networks, and adamantly avoid talking about the weather. You can find Alex at his fediverse server, gleasonator.com.

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Corinna Cohn — Sun, 07 Mar 2021 20:43:25 GMT

What’s the difference between “community standards” and censorship? How do we determine what books to include and exclude from libraries? Why does the Dr. Seuss estate get to decide what Dr. Seuss books stay in print? Is copyright censorship, as Nina asserts? What’s the difference between plagiarism and copyright violation? In an uncharacteristically focused and coherent conversation, Nina and Corinna discuss these questions and more. Then, Jesse and Katie chip in with some ideas on how to close each episode.

The Surprising History of Copyright and The Promise of a Post-Copyright World by Karl Fogel: https://questioncopyright.org/promise

The Internet Archive vs the Authors Guild: https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20200330/18125844202/publishers-authors-misguided-freakout-over-internet-archives-decision-to-enable-more-digital-book-checkouts-during-pandemic.shtml

For 30 Years, I’ve Tried to Become a Woman. Here’s What I Learned Along the Way by Nina Paley: https://quillette.com/2020/06/22/for-30-years-ive-tried-to-become-a-woman-heres-what-i-learned-along-the-way/

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The Gender Critical Movement is Dead. Long Live the Gender Critical Movement!

Corinna Cohn — Sun, 28 Feb 2021 03:55:46 GMT

Nina considers the history of creepy fetishists in comics, leading to a discussion about “perverts” and attempts to normalize them to children. Then Nina blathers about Eunuchs for a while. Suddenly, Corinna takes the conversation in a different direction by declaring the Gender Critical Movement over. This gradually leads to a scrappy argument filled with tension and suspense! Who wins? Listen and find out!

Women’s Human Rights Campaign: https://www.womensdeclaration.com/en/about/

Save Women’s Sports: https://savewomenssports.com/

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Personality Disorders Are Valid

Corinna Cohn — Mon, 22 Feb 2021 00:34:51 GMT

Nina gets a GitHub account, and the first thing she worries about is whether a mob will cancel her there. Corinna debates coming out as non-binary. Is "human" a gender, or still a species? After some discussion, we agree that all identities, tribal affiliations, cult memberships, and personality disorders are valid, so please don't cancel us.

Nina's new art/software project: https://blog.ninapaley.com/2021/02/17/mystic-symbolic-the-developening/

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TERF-War Inside Baseball and Rural Intersectionality

Corinna Cohn — Sat, 13 Feb 2021 20:14:15 GMT

Trans-identified female Scott Newgent, who just released an important (dare we say heroic) article in Newsweek, is praised by Nina on feminist social media site Spinster.xyz, only to be met with harsh criticism from radical feminists who argue trans gender critics must detransition to be taken seriously. TERF-war inside baseball continues as Corinna brings up the Biden Administration’s endorsement of boys in girls’ sports. Corinna suggests drawing a Rural/City axis into Intersectionality, to which Nina responds cynically. Nina is in fact unusually cynical and sarcastic throughout, perhaps because she’s being cancelled by yet another cultural institution, again.

Scott Newgent’s Newsweek article: https://www.newsweek.com/we-need-balance-when-it-comes-gender-dysphoric-kids-i-would-know-opinion-1567277

Nina’s Spinster discussion: https://spinster.xyz/@ninapaley/posts/A46xiOMs4d8Ur7maJ6

Newsweek article on Biden’s exec order/boys in girl’s sports/trans rights are human rights pr: https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-does-bidens-executive-order-allow-transgender-athletes-compete-gender-their-1563790

Original Atlantic piece that evolved into the Coddling of the American Mind https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/09/the-coddling-of-the-american-mind/399356/

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Everyone Expects the Spanish Inquisition

Corinna Cohn — Sun, 07 Feb 2021 23:32:55 GMT

For no reason in particular, Corinna wants to talk about the Spanish Inquisition, which was originally the Inquisition of Heretical Depravity. Since we strictly forbid any form of heresy in this safe space, it hardly makes sense on why the Inquisition would be germane. In completely different news, Corinna and Nina talk about the New York Times parting ways with David McNeal, its foremost science reporter, after he was overheard uttering a blasphemous word in the company of children from wealthy families. Nina talks about the importance of courage, especially as it reflects on mental health, and Corinna challenges the idea of whether courage even exists.

New York Times fires Donald McNeil: https://news.yahoo.com/ny-times-star-reporter-fired-214228379.html

Shelby Steele’s documentary “What Killed Michael Brown” https://whatkilledmichaelbrown.com

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Senator is a Slur

Corinna Cohn — Sat, 06 Feb 2021 02:21:12 GMT

After discussing some feedback on Episode 1, corinnA and ninA use the word "senator" as a slur. They name some other slurs, so listener discretion is advised. corinnA asserts the importance of Liberal Democracy, while ninA implies they don't live in one. Then ninA shares some details about a Very Retarded Breakup, and corinnA invites listeners to send feedback to info@heterodorx.com , or comment at https://www.heterodorx.com/uncategorized/episode-2/

Note: ninA's mic sounds pretty bad here. She will return to her USB desktop mic in our next episode.

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TERF vs. Tranny

Corinna Cohn — Sun, 31 Jan 2021 02:40:33 GMT

Corinna and Nina make their very first recording together, discussing slurs, radical feminism, pronouns, porn, and more. Corinna dazzles Nina by revealing, superhero-style, that he started what became https://terfisaslur.com/ .

Nina's essay, "My Sex-Positive Memoirs," is at https://4w.pub/sex-pos-memoirs/

Essays on Corinna's original (and anonymous) terfisaslur tumblr:

https://terfisaslur.tumblr.com/post/80795200850/terf-is-a-slur

https://terfisaslur.tumblr.com/post/79181927909/spiral-of-silence-and-trans-misogyny

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Microphones are Things

Corinna Cohn — Tue, 26 Jan 2021 23:13:55 GMT

Nina has mic troubles. Will she buy a whole new microphone? Plus, lots of "transitions" canned music clips between segments!

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Hey Stoners...

Corinna Cohn — Tue, 26 Jan 2021 22:41:44 GMT

Nina tries to think and talk at the same time. Also, trying out a signature show greeting. What will Corinna think?

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Uh, Um, Y'know...

Corinna Cohn — Tue, 26 Jan 2021 19:48:35 GMT

Nina continues exploring musical options on anchor.fm. This was recorded with my new audio splitter, which allows a separate mic and headphones to connect to the same single audio jack on my wee little Macbook Air.

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Double Ungood

Corinna Cohn — Thu, 21 Jan 2021 00:47:40 GMT

Nina checks her recording equipment and learns how anchor.fm works.

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