We start with a reflection on Memorial Day itself — not just the sales and barbecues many of us grew up with, but the original purpose of honoring those who lost their lives in military service, and what it means to think about sacrifice, citizenship, and the state of the country today.

From there, we pivot to the topic on many Californian’s minds: next week’s upcoming primary!

It’s here, it’s here! And after several weeks (okay, months) of thinking, reading endorsements, comparing candidates, changing our minds, and generally doing what political nerds do… we finally filled in our ballots and will likely have dropped them in the ballot box by the time this airs.

In this episode, Lisa walks through the process she used to evaluate candidates, including resources like Blue Voter Guide, local endorsements, newspaper analysis, and some personal decision-making criteria around experience, coalition-building, and electability.

We also talk through a handful of races where there wasn’t a clear consensus and explain where we landed and why.

This isn’t meant to be the guide. It’s simply an example of one way to approach voting thoughtfully and intentionally.

We also talk about:

* Why California’s open primary system continues to create strategic dilemmas

* Why primaries deserve more attention than they often get

* Bringing ballots to drop boxes early (and the oddly satisfying feeling of getting the texts from the county registrar saying they’ve been received and counted)

* Postcards, calls, and small ways to stay engaged locally

And because no episode is complete without it, we close with Joyful Moments: porch renovation progress, winding down long-running projects, and the strange possibility that we may need to retrain ourselves to walk up newly even stairs.

As promised, here are the resources:

* Blue Voter Guide

* Alameda County Dems

* California Dems

* LA Times Analysis (may be paywalled)

* SF Chronicle Endorsements (gift link)

* Wellstone Endorsements

* Working Families Party

And our list of California ballot selections:

Governor: Xavier Becerra

Lt. Governor: Michael Tubbs

Secretary of State: Shirley Weber

Controller: Malia Cohen

Treasurer: Eleni Kounalakis

Attorney General: Rob Bonta

Insurance Commissioner: Jane Kim

State Board of Equalization, 2nd District: Sally Lieber

US Representative, 12th Congressional District: Lateefah Simon

14th Assembly District: Buffy Wicks

Superior Court Judge Office #13: Michael P. Johnson

Superior Court Judge Office #19: Selia Warren

State Superintendent of Public Instruction: Nichelle Henderson

County Superintendent of Schools: Alysse Castro

Alameda County District Attorney: Ursula Jones Dickson

Measure A; Peralta Colleges Measure: YES

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On one hand, the news cycle continues to deliver a steady stream of anxiety, frustration, and outrage. On the other hand, life keeps happening. Summer arrives. Festivals pop up. Families gather. Dessert appears. The sun finally comes out in Berkeley around 1:30 PM.

This week on A Couple Thinks, we talk about how we’re trying to navigate that tension without either becoming numb to what’s happening in the country or completely consumed by it.

We discuss:

* the idea of “hedonic adaptation” and how humans return to emotional baseline

* the challenge of staying informed without staying traumatized

* guilt, helplessness, and figuring out what we actually can control

* why joy and rest are not the same thing as disengagement

* summer bucket lists, local adventures, and food festivals as battery recharging strategies

* postcards, voter registration, and preparing for the midterms without burning ourselves out

Plus:Greek festival recap, loukoumades discourse, weather complaints, Monster Truck Jam memories, and an alarming number of festival recommendations.

Sometimes surviving difficult times means protesting.Sometimes it means organizing.And sometimes it means eating fried dough with Nutella while listening to live music in Oakland.

We think all three can coexist.

Resources we mention:

If you’re looking for ways to stay engaged without burning yourself out, here are a few of the organizations and tools we mentioned during the episode:

* Postcards to VotersWrite handwritten postcards to encourage voter participation in key races and districts.

* Oath.vote (founded by Brian Derrick)Helps identify strategic races and opportunities for donations, volunteering, and organizing.

* 5 CallsMakes it easy to contact your elected officials about current issues with scripts and phone numbers.

* A Couple Thinks SurveyShare topic ideas, feedback, and questions for future episodes.

* We always love hearing your ideas, thoughts, and local recommendations.

And as always: shop small and local when you can, support community organizations, and remember to recharge your batteries along the way.

This week on the podcast, we talk about the escalating redistricting battles happening across the country, the continued weakening of the Voting Rights Act, and what we can do to help Democrats take back the House (and maybe the Senate).

We also dig into:

* Why mid-decade gerrymandering feels like a race to the bottom

* Whether voters may be less predictable than political strategists assume

* What ordinary people can actually do right now

* Why local races and state courts matter more than many people realize

* How optimism and pragmatism can coexist, even during exhausting political moments

Lisa shares practical ways listeners can prepare for the months ahead — from voter registration and postcards to strategic donations and canvassing opportunities — while Aaron makes the case that even heavily manipulated political maps don’t guarantee voter behavior.

Here are some of the resources we mention:

Oath.vote

Mobilize.us (click on Get out the Vote or Voting Rights for election-focused events)

Postcards to Voters

And because we still believe in balancing civic engagement with joy, we wrap up with joyful moments featuring:

* solo quiet-house time with Tucci the cat,

* a visit to Berkeley’s Magnes Museum,

* New York adventures, including Broadway musicals and family weddings,

* and a renewed appreciation for Berkeley weather.

If you’ve been feeling discouraged, overwhelmed, or unsure where to focus your energy, this episode is ultimately about finding productive ways forward without surrendering hope.

Give it a listen, and as always, thanks for thinking alongside us.

You can also email us at hello@acouplethinks.com or take our listener survey at survey.acouplethinks.com.

We will have a new episode in your feed next week so you can hear about Aaron’s travels, amongst other things!

In this episode of A Couple Thinks, we’re doing two things: breaking down how to take meaningful local action, even if politics feels like too much, and finding the good news that helps balance out the doom-scroll.

Aaron kicks things off with a challenge: If you’re someone with the privilege and comfort to be politically visible, get out there. Join a protest. Write to your representatives. But if politics feels too risky or heavy right now … there are still so many ways to “do something.”

We talk about volunteering at food banks, helping out at local events, supporting small businesses, and even joining community organizations like Rotary or your local Chamber of Commerce. These non-political acts of service build community resilience and personal connection.

Lisa shares a few ways to dig deeper into community support systems, from Mutual Aid networks to city-led volunteer opportunities.

In the second half of the episode, we talk about finding balance. Lisa shares some of her favorite places for positive news—from “Under the Desk News” to the Good News Network—and her commitment to a media diet that includes plenty to celebrate, not just outrage.

In our Joyful Moments segment, we celebrate last June’s small wins—from window screen repairs to backyard s’mores. We both rhapsodize about the power of the s’more to bring joy (even the extra-gooey, messy kind). Aaron shares the power of crossword puzzles and finding satisfaction in something as tactile as a sharp pencil and a clever clue.

Links mentioned in this episode:

* Under the Desk News on Instagram Under the Desk News (on Substack)

* Good News Network

* Heather Cox Richardson Letters from an American (on Substack)

* Joyce Vance Civil Discourse (on Substack)

* Preet Bharara: Stay Tuned Podcast and Stay Tuned with Preet (on Substack)

* Tim Miller: The Bulwark Podcast and Tim Miller (on Substack)

* Democracy Docket Democracy Docket (on Substack)

* Mobilize for No Kings Day - June 14

* Postcards to Voters

* Five Calls App

On the debate front, our big takeaway is… cautiously reassuring. If any of the Democratic candidates on that stage becomes governor, we’ll be okay. There wasn’t a single breakout moment that reshaped the race, but there also weren’t any major missteps. That said, the structure of California’s open primary system still leaves us a little uneasy. With multiple strong candidates, there’s always the risk of splitting the vote in a way that complicates the outcome. So while we’d love to simply vote our hearts, we will keep an eye on the polling as we approach late May and need to make our decision.

From there, we shift to May Day—a day that’s observed in nearly all countries as International Workers’ Day, but notably not in the United States. We dig a bit into the history of how that happened (hint: it involves labor uprisings and some intentional distancing), and talk about why this year feels especially significant.

The call to action around May Day is simple, but not necessarily easy:no work, no school, no spending.

For many people, participating fully in that may not be realistic—and that’s okay. The goal isn’t perfection; it’s participation. Whether that means attending a local event, skipping non-essential spending, or just being more intentional about supporting small, local businesses, there are ways to show up that fit your life.

We also share a few practical reminders:

* Check your voter registration and know your primary date

* Look into local events (Mobilize.us or a quick Google search can help)

* Keep making those small, consistent actions that add up over time

And of course, we wrap with our joyful moments, because even in the middle of all this, we’re still finding ways to move our bodies, enjoy community events, and (in Lisa’s case) look forward to some very specific foods while Aaron is out of town.

It’s a mix of civic reality and everyday life, per usual.

🎧 Give it a listen and let us know what you think:

And as always, you can reach us at hello@acouplethinks.com or take our listener survey at survey.acouplethinks.com.

We get into the frustration of “open secrets,” the power dynamics that keep people silent, and the cultural reflex to protect men’s reputations over women’s experiences.

Aaron brings in a perspective on what responsibility looks like among men themselves, not just privately disagreeing with bad behavior, but actively calling it out. Because if the culture is going to shift, men need to step up and take action.

And because we’re us, we don’t stay in the heaviness the whole time. We also share a genuinely joyful counterpoint: a moment of lightness and humanity from two men, Barack Obama and Zohran Mamdani, that reminded us that masculinity can be playful, present, and deeply human.

We wrap, as always, with a few ways to take action this week (especially for Californians following the gubernatorial race), and our “joyful moments” segment—because even in weeks like this, there are still small, meaningful bright spots.

If you’re feeling frustrated, angry, or just trying to make sense of it all, this one’s for you.

👉 Give it a listen, and let us know what resonated: hello@acouplethinks.com👉 And if you haven’t yet, we’d love your thoughts here: survey.acouplethinks.com

A lot has changed since our last conversation. And with ballots hitting mailboxes in early May, the timeline is getting tight.

So what’s different now?

When we last talked, the field was wide open. No clear frontrunner. Lots of possibilities.

Now?There’s been a major shake-up — including serious allegations against Eric Swalwell that have effectively taken him out of serious consideration.

Which brings us right back to the core concern we raised before:

👉 If Democratic voters don’t coalesce, we could end up with two Republicans in the general election.

And in a state like California, that’s… ridiculous? appalling? scary?

The reality of the jungle primary

In a traditional primary, you can vote your heart.

In this system?You have to vote strategically.

Because it’s not about picking your favorite candidate in a vacuum — it’s about making sure the right candidates even make it to November.

So we walk through a simple, practical rubric:

* Who meets this moment?

* Who has real governing experience?

* Who understands California?

* And yes — who can actually win?

It’s not always a comfortable way to think about voting.But that is our current reality.

Where we landed

After looking at the field we landed on one candidate who checks the most boxes right now and seems to be picking up momentum (polling will tell for sure):

This candidate brings decades of experience at both the state and federal level, has already taken on a Trump administration as California’s Attorney General and if you don’t know already, we reveal their name in the episode, eventually.

Could this shift as polling evolves? Possibly.And we talk about that too.

What you can do

If you’re in California:

* Do your own research

* Keep an eye on polling as ballots arrive

* Make a deliberate, informed choice

If you’re not:

* Pay attention to your own local races

* Stay engaged where you are

* And remember — systems matter, not just candidates

And yes… we end with joy

Because even in the middle of all this:

* Neighborhood connections are growing

* Home projects are moving forward

* Science is still doing incredible things

And sometimes, that’s enough to keep you going.

🎧 Listen to the full episode for the full breakdown (and a few classic Aaron jokes along the way).

And as always:

* Email us: hello@acouplethinks.com

* Take the survey: survey.acouplethinks.com

We’d love to hear what you’re thinking.

And honestly? That mix feels like the moment we’re in.

We start with a conversation about what Aaron calls “selfish voters.” The idea that many people only engage politically when something affects them directly—gas prices, economic shifts, or immediate personal impact.

On one hand, that’s frustrating.On the other hand… it may also be how change starts.

And right now, we’re seeing signs of that shift.

🚶‍♀️ More People Showing Up

One of the most encouraging signals: turnout.

Recent protests—including No Kings Day—drew millions of people nationwide, many of them first-time participants.

That matters.

Not just because of the protest itself, but because it suggests something deeper:

* People are paying attention

* People are getting involved

* And importantly—people are likely to vote

It’s not just noise. It’s activation.

🗳️ Early Political Signals

We’re also seeing movement in elections—especially at the local and state level:

* Seats flipping

* New candidates stepping in

* Incumbents choosing not to run

None of this guarantees anything for November. But it does suggest momentum is building in ways that aren’t always visible in national headlines.

⚖️ The Courts (Still) Matter

There’s also been a string of court rulings pushing back in meaningful ways—on issues ranging from free speech to executive overreach.

The process is slow. Sometimes painfully slow.

But it’s also one of the few places where the system is still functioning as intended.

🌍 The Hard Stuff

We also talk about the ongoing war involving Iran—something that feels both urgent and, at the same time, frustratingly out of our control.

It’s heavy. It’s complicated. And like many of you, we’re grappling with what it means to stay informed without feeling completely powerless.

🧭 What You Can Do

Even in a moment like this, there are still tangible ways to stay engaged:

* Double-check your voter registration

* Make calls through tools like 5calls.org

* Support local businesses

* Get involved in small but meaningful ways

Because while we can’t control everything, we’re not powerless either.

✨ And Yes—Joyful Moments

We close, as always, with our joyful moments:

* A family bar mitzvah in LA

* Hosting loved ones

* Huge local turnout for No Kings Day

* And even trying out a new Tai Chi class here in Berkeley

Because even in complicated times, joy isn’t frivolous—it’s necessary.

If this resonates, we’d love for you to listen to the full episode.

And as always, you can reach us at hello@acouplethinks.com or share your thoughts at survey.acouplethinks.com.

Thanks for being here with us.

Travel, family visits, protests, and holiday prep held our focus this week- plus Lisa is fighting a rough cold. So, we’re bringing back a previous episode in which we discuss framing and frameworks through which folks see the world and how that impacts our decision-making.

Do you lean towards the hierarchical or solidarity model? Or the Strict Father vs. Nurturing Parent model?

Listen in (again, or for the first time) for more details about these framework ideas and the impact of these points of view on our values and decision-making.

We wish you a happy & meaningful holiday season as well!

Resources/Links:

Instagram post by Elad Nehorai

The Frameworks Institute (IG @frameworksinstitute)

The King, the Mice and the Cheese, I couldn’t find it on Bookshop.org so this is an Amazon Affiliate link.

Original October 28th Episode

Momentum is building. Not just from one event to the next, but from everything happening around us. The courts, the protests, the pushback—it all adds up. And while it can feel exhausting (because it is), it can also be energizing to stand shoulder to shoulder with others who care.

There are so many ways in:

* Big marches and smaller gatherings

* Standing protests or moving ones

* Local events across neighborhoods and cities

You don’t have to do it one specific way. You just have to do what you can.

And if showing up physically isn’t possible right now, there are still other ways that count too:

* Support No Kings partner organizations

* Help others prepare and make signs

* Spread the word

What matters is participation.

We talk about the research about resistance to authoritarian regimes often: when enough people engage—around 3.5% of the population—real change becomes possible. In a country as spread out as ours, that doesn’t happen in one place. It happens everywhere, all at once.

That’s the moment we’re building toward.

So consider this your invitation. Or your nudge. Or your rallying cry.

Bring your friends.Bring your voice.Bring a little joy with you, too.

And if you need ideas for signs, chants, or just a reminder of why this matters—we’ve got you.

👉 Listen to the full episode here and get ready for March 28:

We’ll be back next week to share how it all unfolded.

Until then—see you out there.

photo credit: Santiago Mejia, San Francisco Chronicle.

Not giant movements.Not national organizations.

Just neighbors — getting together.

Recently, Lisa helped organize the first meeting of a new local “pod” here in Berkeley. The idea is simple: gather people who live near each other so they can share information, support one another, and take action together when it matters.

About twenty people showed up for the first meeting at our local library branch. We had a great mix of ages and backgrounds. Some came looking for community and connection, others wanted protest buddies, and some were simply curious about what kinds of local actions they could plug into.

What struck us most was how powerful geography can be as an organizing principle.

Most activist groups form around interests. But when you organize by neighborhood, something different happens. You build relationships with people you might actually see at the grocery store, walking the dog, or around the block.

And that creates a community rooted in trust and proximity.

We also talked about how these pods can:

* Help people attend protests or events together

* Provide support and debriefing after intense actions

* Share opportunities like petition drives or volunteer work

* Strengthen neighborhood relationships that are useful during any kind of emergency

In other words, it’s not just about politics. It’s also about knowing your neighbors and building real-world connections in a time when so much of life happens online.

The takeaway from this episode is simple:

If you want to build resilience and community, start small.Start with your block.Start with your zip code.

Pods may be small, but they can be surprisingly empowering.

We also share our usual list of things you can do this week to stay engaged — including checking your voter registration, preparing for the upcoming No Kings Day on March 28th, and supporting local businesses.

* Find your local No Kings Day events here (including “Know Your Rights” and other prep topics

* 5Calls.org

* Postcards to Voters

And of course, we close with our Joyful Moments, including a fantastic Jonah Kagen concert and a little overnight getaway in San Francisco.

🎧 Listen to the full episode

In this week’s episode of A Couple Thinks, we talk about how to protect your peace without checking out completely.

Aaron opens with a Vivian Green quote that captures the challenge of this moment:

“Life isn’t about waiting for the storm to pass. It’s about learning how to dance in the rain.”

We can’t pause our lives until things calm down. But we also don’t have to let the nonstop stream of information overwhelm us.

We talk about practical ways we’re managing the news cycle right now, including:

* Pausing before reacting to sensational social media posts

* Relying on reputable news sources instead of viral clips

* Turning off constant news notifications

* Limiting how often we check the news

We also discuss the balance between staying informed and taking action, including contacting elected officials, participating in protests, and preparing for upcoming elections.

Resources for taking action:

* 5calls.org (scripts for calling your electeds)

* Postcards to Voters (addresses and scripts for sending postcards)

* Indivisible (protests and local actions)

* Vote411.org (voting resources)

* League of Women Voters (find your local chapter to help register voters)

And as always, we end the episode with our Joyful Moments—this week featuring homemade hamantaschen for Purim, spring flowers blooming around Berkeley, and the welcome return of longer evening walks.

Because even in difficult times, finding moments of joy is part of how we keep going.

🎧 Listen to the full episode wherever you find your podcasts (or here on Substack!)

It’s possible to hold more than one truth at the same time. You can oppose war and still be glad that the Iranian people are one tyrant further away from authoritarian rule. The world is complicated right now.

And speaking of complicated…

This week’s episode focuses on the California governor’s race — and specifically, the unintended consequences of our state’s Top Two Open Primary system.

Back in 2011, California adopted a system where all candidates appear on the same primary ballot (for many, but not all elected positions), and the top two vote-getters advance to the general election, regardless of party. At the time, most people assumed we might occasionally see two Democrats advance in our heavily blue state.

What we didn’t anticipate? A scenario where nine Democrats split the vote while two Republicans consolidate theirs — making it possible that two Republicans could end up on the November ballot.

That possibility isn’t just theoretical. It’s being modeled at roughly a 10–15% likelihood right now.

And that’s where things get concerning.

Because this isn’t only about who becomes governor. It’s about turnout. If Democratic voters feel shut out of the top race in November, some may stay home. Meanwhile, energized Republican voters could turn out in higher numbers. That shift could ripple down-ballot and affect competitive congressional races — with national consequences.

So what do we do with that information?

In this episode, we talk through:

* The crowded Democratic field.

* The role of name recognition versus executive experience.

* The strengths and weaknesses of candidates like Katie Porter and Eric Swalwell.

* The quieter resumes of candidates like Betty Yee, Xavier Becerra, and former mayors.

* The influence of money and media visibility.

* And the tension between idealism and pragmatism.

Should lower-polling candidates step aside to consolidate support?Should voters rally early around a viable front-runner?Or should we ignore polling and back the person we believe would govern best?

There are no easy answers.

What we do know is this: we have time before the June primary. And we, as voters, aren’t powerless. We can research. We can discuss. We can think strategically.

And in the meantime, there are concrete actions we can take:

* Double-check your voter registration.

* Visit 5calls.org to make targeted calls.

* Mark March 28th on your calendar for the next No Kings Day protest.

* Send postcards in key judicial races.

* Shop small and local when you can.

Democracy isn’t just about election day. It’s about showing up consistently.

We close, as always, with joyful moments — including beautiful February weather, upcoming visits to New York, and of course… Tucci the cat, who continues to be the most reliable source of delight in our household.

If you care about California’s future — and how state-level politics shapes national outcomes — this is an episode you won’t want to miss.

🎧 Listen now wherever you get your podcasts.📩 Email us at hello@acouplethinks.com📝 Take our listener survey at survey.acouplethinks.com

Tucci is taking this Governor’s race very seriously…

This one felt like ten.

In this episode of A Couple Thinks, we unpack a week that revealed multiple fissures inside the MAGA coalition.

The Supreme Court delivered a 6–3 ruling limiting Trump’s use of emergency powers for tariffs—an unusually clear moment of institutional guardrails holding. Trump quickly pivoted, adjusting percentages and leaning on temporary authority, leaving economic uncertainty in his wake.

Meanwhile:

* New information but still few consequences around the Epstein files continues to frustrate factions that expected sweeping accountability.

* “Make America Healthy Again” voters are upset over executive action tied to Roundup production.

* America First isolationists are uneasy about possible military escalation with Iran.

* Attempts to suppress media moments—like Stephen Colbert’s interview controversy—only amplified attention online.

We also talk about the partial shutdown, Mitch McConnell’s maneuvering on the SAVE Act, and whether Democrats will hold firm on issues like masked ICE enforcement.

And because we don’t only live in politics, we end with joy: walking to the Cal Women’s Basketball game in Berkeley, soaking up the energy, and celebrating Bay Area skater Alysa Liu (who now has free ice cream for life at Fenton’s—well deserved).

If you’re feeling the fault lines shifting, this episode is for you.

🎧 Listen wherever you get your podcasts.📬 Email us at hello@acouplethinks.com📝 Take our survey at survey.acouplethinks.com

We focused mainly on the proposed SAVE Act (Safeguard American Voter Eligibility Act), which would require proof of citizenship at registration and when voting, including for mail-in ballots. It would also take effect immediately.

That “immediately” part matters.

States would need to create systems to process documentation, verify identity, and protect sensitive information — all while running elections. Election workers could even face personal liability if procedures aren’t followed exactly right. That’s not a small administrative tweak. That’s a major overhaul midstream.

And here’s the bigger question: what problem are we solving?

Actual voter fraud is extraordinarily rare. Decades of data show minuscule numbers of fraudulent votes, nowhere near enough to alter outcomes. So when new requirements make voting more expensive, more complicated, or more time-consuming, the burden falls hardest on people without easy access to documents, time off work, or extra funds.

Security matters. Access matters too.

If your vote truly didn’t matter, there wouldn’t be so much effort spent trying to limit it.

So what can you do?

✔️ Check your voter registration.✔️ Look at FiveCalls.org for current issues to weigh in on.✔️ Pay attention to town halls while members of Congress are home.✔️ Stay informed — calmly and factually.

And yes, we also shared some joy this week: a birthday dinner with carrot cake and a small, hilarious live theater performance with Rotary friends. Community and civic engagement aren’t opposites. They fuel each other.

🎧 If you’d like the full conversation, including our breakdown of Real ID, proof of citizenship, and what the Constitution says about poll taxes, listen to this week’s episode.

Thanks for thinking with us.

p.s. here’s the pic of Tucci participating in our podcast recording session:

Lisa was in her last two years of high school in the DC suburbs in the late ’70s, when the Washington Post was the local paper and a powerhouse investigative paper. It covered local school boards and sports scores alongside national politics, and it still carried the gravitas of its Watergate reporting. The Post showed what was possible when local knowledge, national power, and serious investigative journalism lived under the same roof.

Fast forward to the present, and that legacy feels painfully fragile.

In this episode, we talk through why the Post’s recent layoffs, leadership failures, and editorial decisions feel like more than just internal drama. When subscriptions were canceled after the paper pulled its presidential endorsement and declined to run Ann Telnaes’ cartoon, it wasn’t about partisan loyalty, it was about trust. And last week when the paper began shedding reporters, editors, and entire sections, the cost wasn’t just financial. It was civic.

Aaron reflects on reporting that only fairly recently set the standard with innovative timelines, visual explainers, and deeply sourced investigations like the January 6th reconstruction. We also discuss why losing international reporters weakens local and national coverage alike, and why stories like Watergate—originally a local break-in—might never surface without strong metro reporting.

We compare the Post’s decline to institutions like the New York Times, and to magazines like The Atlantic. And yes, we wrestle with the uncomfortable reality of billionaire ownership, including Jeff Bezos’s role and the unanswered questions about power, pressure, and responsibility.

Still, this episode isn’t just a post-mortem. It’s a reminder.

A free press isn’t a luxury. It’s infrastructure.

Our founders understood that. The First Amendment exists for a reason. And in a moment when newspapers are folding, local reporting is vanishing, and public trust is being actively undermined, supporting serious journalism may be one of the most meaningful acts available to us.

We also share concrete actions you can take this week, from calling your representatives using Five Calls, to supporting pro-democracy efforts, to voting with your wallet by subscribing to outlets doing the hard, unglamorous work of truth-finding. And, as always, we close with joyful moments—because connection, beauty, and community are part of resistance too.

🎧 Listen to the full episode of A Couple Thinks wherever you get your podcasts.If this conversation resonates, share it, rate the show, or send us a note at hello@acouplethinks.com. You can also help shape future episodes by filling out our listener survey at survey.acouplethinks.com.

Reliable journalism doesn’t survive on vibes alone. It survives because people decide it matters.

And we think it still does.

p.s. Here are some of the articles and “love letters” to the Washington Post that we used as source materials:

The Murder of the Washington Post by Ashley Parker

An Elegy for My Washington Post by Carlos Lozada

‘Washington Post’ CEO departs after going AWOL during massive job cuts by David Folkenflik

And then we asked a simple but unsettling question: Which of these constitutional protections are being violated right now?

As it turns out… more than you might want to sit with all at once.

In this episode, we walk through several amendments, including the First, Second, Fourth, Fifth, Tenth, and Fourteenth, and talk plainly about how they’re being ignored, twisted, or outright trampled by the current federal government, particularly through the actions of ICE, the Department of Justice, and Homeland Security. (Shout out to this article from the Constitutional Accountability Center for laying it all out so clearly.)

We talk about:

* The erosion of free speech, free press, and peaceful assembly

* Unreasonable searches and seizures, including armed home invasions without warrants

* The gutting of due process

* Federal overreach into state sovereignty

* And the parallels between today’s actions and the original intent of the Fourteenth Amendment, which was designed to protect people from state-sanctioned violence and racial terror

One of the most striking things about this conversation was seeing all of these violations lined up together. We often hear about attacks on a right — the First Amendment here, the Fourth Amendment there — but stepping back and viewing the pattern makes it much harder to dismiss what’s happening as isolated incidents or bureaucratic mistakes.

This is not about policy disagreements.This is about whether constitutional rights still mean what they say.

We also talk about what to do with this information. Because as bleak as this moment can feel, it is not hopeless and it is not over.

In the latter part of the episode, we share concrete actions:

* Calls you can make right now using the Five Calls app

* Upcoming protests, including the next No Kings Day on March 28th

* Ways to support local and state-level efforts that are still making real progress, including Postcards to Voters

* and more!

As always, we end with Joyful Moments, because resistance without repair isn’t sustainable, and joy itself is part of how we keep going. Here’s the link to Aaron’s Radio Show if you want to listen to the new 80s episodes on Tuesdays at noon pacific time!

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We’re glad you’re here.

Usually, we come to the microphone with an outline and some scripting to help us make sense of the moment we’re living in. But on Saturday, January 24th, that didn’t feel possible or honest.

We were still processing the news out of Minneapolis: another protester killed by ICE agents. As the day went on, more videos surfaced. More angles. More details. And instead of clarity, what emerged was something far more disturbing: a widening gap between what federal officials were saying and what we could see with our own eyes.

In this episode, we talk through that shock in real time.

We talk about the speed at which official narratives are now deployed, often before facts are verified, and these days even in direct contradiction to video evidence. We talk about how corrosive that is, not just to public trust, but to the idea that government actors should be accountable to the truth at all. We also name the feeling many of us are sitting with: not just anger or grief, but overwhelm.

We wrestle with something we’ve returned to again and again on this podcast: how to stay informed without completely losing your peace.

Lisa shares the tension between relying on responsible journalism, where verification takes time, and the emotional pull of social media, where information (and misinformation) moves instantly. Aaron reflects on the deeper, meta-level damage caused when federal officials appear to lie without consequence, and what that does to any remaining faith in institutions.

And yet, as heavy as this episode is, we look for the light.

As always, we talk about action—practical ways to stay engaged without burning out. We talk about calling representatives, using tools like Five Calls, supporting campaigns with postcards to voters, and preparing for the protests and primaries ahead with organizations like Indivisible (https://indivisible.org/)

Finally, we make room for joy. Not as denial. Not as distraction. But as something essential. A haircut. A basketball game. A cat who insists on being adored. Small, human moments that remind us why staying connected, to each other and to this work, still matters.

This is a raw episode. A seat-of-the-pants conversation. No outline. No easy answers. Just two people trying to process a moment that feels both unbearable and unavoidable.

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Our conversation was sparked by a New York Times opinion piece by conservative column by Ross Douthat titled “Trump’s Second Term Has Ended the Conservative Era.” This particular piece caught our attention because Lisa finished the entire piece, which rarely happens with this particular writer.

Douthat uses a real-estate metaphor to frame Trump as a developer who didn’t renovate conservatism so much as demolish it—tearing down long-standing pillars like limited government, Reagan-era foreign policy, religious moralism, and institutional trust. What’s being erected in its place, he argues, is unfinished, unstable, and deeply idiosyncratic to Trump himself: loud, gaudy, and built on weak foundations.

What made the piece especially striking wasn’t just the criticism of Trump, it was also the acknowledgment, from a conservative writer, that there may not be a coherent “after” yet. The factions circling Trumpism don’t share the same goals, policies, or even worldview. Trump himself embodies contradiction: isolationist rhetoric paired with aggressive foreign action; economic nationalism mixed with chaos; cultural grievance without a governing philosophy.

In our conversation, we zoomed out from the essay itself to talk about what this moment feels like to live through. That sense that we’re still in the “worse before it gets better” phase. That unsettling realization that decline doesn’t always arrive as a single event—it can look like a long stretch of not-good things, punctuated by flare-ups of cruelty, vindictiveness, and institutional stress.

We also talked about something that feels newly important: even conservative voices are starting to speak more plainly about Trump’s legacy. Less hedging. Less “I don’t like him, but…” More acknowledgment that real damage has been done to norms, to institutions, and to the country’s credibility at home and abroad.

From there, the conversation widened again. When Trump is eventually gone, what happens to the people, systems, and incentives that enabled him? What does accountability look like? What does repair look like—both institutionally and socially? How do communities coexist after years of open bigotry, public flags, hats, and declarations that can’t simply be tucked away again?

We didn’t pretend to have answers. But we did talk about what now looks like: resistance, protest, disruption, participation in primaries, pressure on elected officials, and refusing to disengage just because the process feels long and exhausting.

As always, we closed with actions you can take this week—and with our joyful moments, because holding onto joy is not frivolous. It’s part of staying human while we push back.

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We’re still in the middle of it. But we’re not just watching.

Between the destabilization of Venezuela and the murder of Renee Nicole Goode in Minneapolis, the cruelty and chaos of this moment feels sharper, more frightening, and more relentless than many of us expected. In this week’s episode, we talk honestly about that weight—about the despair, anger, and helplessness that can creep in when it feels like we’re watching harm unfold in real time.

We also talk about something just as important: where power actually lives right now, and what that means for how we respond.

While the presidency and the Supreme Court feel largely locked in, Congress remains a critical and underused lever. Laws can be written. Oversight can happen. Accountability is still possible. And yet, too often, it feels like members of Congress are frozen by fear, political calculation, or sheer unwillingness to challenge this administration. That frustration is real.

At the same time, we reflect on signs that we are not alone—and that resistance is not just theoretical. From the rapid, nationwide turnout for ICE Out for Good protests to court rulings that have slowed or blocked some of the administration’s cruelest actions, there are cracks in the façade. People are paying attention. Infrastructure exists. Momentum is building rather than fading.

We also talk about the long view: the 11 months between now and the midterms. How do we push back now while also preparing for November? How do we sustain ourselves emotionally and politically when the pace of harm feels faster than the pace of accountability?

As always, we share concrete actions you can take, like calling your representatives, using tools like Five Calls, staying connected to protest and postcard efforts, and inviting others into the work by making your own actions visible. And, because survival matters too, we close with joyful moments that reminded us why staying human, curious, and connected is part of resistance.

This is not an easy episode, but we needed to talk through the downs and the ups. If you’re feeling overwhelmed, discouraged, or unsure how to keep going without burning out, we hope this conversation helps you feel a little less alone.

🎧 Listen to the full episode wherever you get your podcastsAnd if you have thoughts, ideas, or questions, reach us at hello@acouplethinks.com or fill out our ongoing survey at survey.acouplethinks.com.

We’re in this together—and we’re not done yet.

Because let’s be honest: this moment isn’t about one phone call, one protest, or one election. It’s about endurance. It’s about showing up consistently, in ways that are sustainable, meaningful, and aligned with our values.

We begin the episode by acknowledging the deeply troubling and illegal actions taken by the Trump administration in Venezuela. Whatever one thinks of Nicolás Maduro as a leader, unilateral military action without congressional approval sets a dangerous precedent—one that undermines international law, weakens democratic norms, and erodes any moral authority the U.S. claims on the world stage. We reference Heather Cox Richardson and her recent video that highlights these concerns. That reality is sobering, and it makes the need for civic engagement feel even more urgent.

From there, we walk through how we’re thinking about political action quarter by quarter:

* January–March: calling members of Congress, demanding accountability, reinforcing our identity as voters, and responding quickly to unfolding events

* April–June: protest season, voter registration, canvassing, and finding ways to get involved that stretch us just enough

* July–September: shifting into pre-election mode, supporting turnout efforts, and helping where the margins are tight

* October–December: election protection, ballot curing, and—hopefully—celebration and repair after months of sustained effort

A big theme of A Couple Thinks has been and continues to be: doing something is better than doing nothing. Not everyone needs to do the same thing. Some people will make phone calls. Others will canvas. Some will travel. Some will help behind the scenes. The point isn’t perfection, it’s participation and progress.

Here are some of the resources to use to help you participate:

* 5Calls.org for scripts and phone numbers to call your electeds.

* Postcards to Voters for content and addresses to mail to voters around the country

We also talk about how to frame these conversations with elected officials in a way that transcends party labels. This isn’t about Democrat versus Republican. It’s about the Constitution, the rule of law, and the basic guardrails of democracy.

And because this is A Couple Thinks, we close, as always, with joyful moments—including our anniversary getaway to Santa Cruz, a reminder that rest, connection, and beauty aren’t distractions from the work. They’re what make the long haul possible.

🎧 Listen to the full episode for a practical, honest, and hopeful conversation about how to plan your political action for the year ahead—and how to stay engaged without burning out.

If you want to share how you’re planning to show up this year, or if you’re looking for ideas that fit your comfort level and capacity, we’d love to hear from you. You can email us at hello@acouplethinks.com or take our listener survey at survey.acouplethinks.com.

We’re in this together. Let’s plan accordingly.

In this week’s episode of A Couple Thinks, we unpack an essay, posted in August, by John Pavlovitz, that caught our attention: the idea of a F*ck It List! It’s a rethinking of the classic bucket list for a moment when waiting for things to “settle down” no longer makes sense.

The core idea is simple but unsettling: pretending that normal is just around the corner is keeping many of us quiet, cautious, and stuck. Instead of waiting to speak up, live fully, or pursue what brings us joy, Pavlovitz argues it may be time to stop sacrificing our integrity, voice, and energy to preserve systems and relationships that are actively harming people.

In the episode, we explore three big areas where “f*ck it” might apply:

* Relationships – What do we do with people in our lives who repeatedly supported Trump and the ensuing harm caused by him? Is disengaging a moral failure—or an act of self-preservation?

* Voice & authenticity – How much have we edited ourselves to avoid conflict, and what has that silence actually cost us?

* Joy & deferred dreams – Trips not taken, projects postponed, passions shelved “until things get better”—what if that time never comes?

We wrestle honestly with the tension between compassion and boundaries, strategic patience and moral clarity, and the reality that our time and energy are finite. As always, we also share concrete actions you can take right now—and end with our joyful moments, because joy itself is a form of resistance.

🎧 Listen to the full episode to hear the full conversation, our disagreements, our laughter, and where we ultimately land.

The episode was titled “Keeping Your Peace”, and we were reminding listeners – and each other – how important it was to not let the news overwhelm us, and that a calm and organized mind is so much more powerful than a frightened and paralyzed one.

Before we reprise that episode, we give a quick update of the recommendations that we gave for keeping your peace and how we have fared with them. Spoiler (it’s been mostly successful!)

Take a listen!

For our “golden episode,” we wanted to share 50 good things from 2025… and while we didn’t quite get to 50, we do have a clear reminder that momentum is real, people are showing up, and good news exists—even when the headlines try to convince you otherwise.

We decided to group our bright spots into a few themes:

1) Resistance and protest that keeps building

One of the most heartening things this year has been watching protest movements stack—each action building on the last.

We also highlight something that matters a lot right now: state-level pushback—coalitions and policies that preserve public health and protect communities even when federal leadership is doing the opposite.

And one of the standout moments: Indiana’s Republican State Senate voting “no” on gerrymandering—despite pressure from Trump-world. When we see principled resistance (even from people we often disagree with), it reminds us what a functioning democracy could look like.

2) Election wins (and signs of a shifting Democratic future)

We’re not pretending elections solve everything. But this year gave us a lot of reasons to stay engaged.

\Democrats flipped a meaningful share of GOP-held state legislative seats—and several high-profile races suggest voters want something different.

We also talk about Zohran Mamdani’s win in NYC and what it might signal—not just as a personality or a single city result, but as a kind of “template” for a newer coalition and a clearer break from politics-as-usual.

3) GOP weirdness (and why we’re cautiously enjoying it)

Is it complicated to feel a little joy when chaos is hurting real people? Yes. We talk about that tension.

But we also name what we’re seeing: dysfunction and infighting can be a sign that the grip is slipping.

We get into the details of why Trump’s power is looking weaker earlier than many expected

4) A few “good news” reminders you might’ve missed

We share a quick “good science / good world” punch list—because a lot of progress doesn’t make the front page.

We talk about encouraging trends like:

* The ozone layer healing faster than expected

* Extreme poverty declining dramatically over the past few decades

* Big leaps in gene therapy

* Renewables getting cheaper and expanding—even in red states

* Child mortality falling since 1990

None of this erases what’s hard. But it does matter. It’s evidence that collective action, policy, science, and persistence can move the needle.

5) What we’re doing this week (and how you can join us)

If you’ve been asking yourself, “Okay, but what do I do with all this?” — we’ve got you.

This week’s actions:

* Postcards to voters: There’s an Iowa State Legislature special election on December 30, and Lisa’s writing postcards to help protect a key seat.

* Shop small & local when you can (especially during the holidays)

* Call your senators: Indivisible is encouraging calls pushing for new Senate leadership (re: Schumer)

* And: tell us what’s on your mind—email us at hello@acouplethinks.com or take the listener survey at survey.acouplethinks.com

Joyful Moments: birthdays, Hanukkah, and crunchy latkes

We close with joy (as always).

This week’s highlights:

* Celebrating Aaron’s mom’s 88th birthday with a family dinner

* Hanukkah begins—latkes are happening (crispy ones… not the soft pancake kind)

* And Aaron’s ongoing project: decluttering the office/studio to make space for more creative work (and yes, it sends a lot of junk downstairs in the process)

Because as we head toward the solstice—the season of bringing light into darkness—we’re trying to do that in small ways that actually count.

🎧 Listen to Episode 50

If you need a little hope-with-receipts (plus a woo woo, plus a latke description), go listen to the full episode now—and then hit reply and tell us: what’s one “good thing” you’re holding onto from this year?

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See you next Tuesday for episode 51. ❤️

In this week’s episode of A Couple Thinks, we dig into the Tennessee Congressional District 7 special election and why we’re calling it “when a loss is a win.”

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When a 21-point loss becomes a 9-point “win”

In the 2024 election, the Republican in Tennessee’s 7th District won by 21 points.

This time? The Republican still won, but the margin was cut to just 9 points.

On paper, it’s still a loss. But in a heavily gerrymandered district where Nashville voters have been sliced and diced to dilute their power, narrowing the gap that much is a big deal.

That 12-point swing translates into:

* National attention and new money flowing into these types of races

* Volunteers sharpening their “postcard muscles” and canvassing chops

* Republicans getting just nervous enough to alter their behavior—both on the campaign trail and hopefully, even in how they govern as Trump’s power declines.

As budget deadlines loom, health insurance costs spike, and primaries creep closer, even “safe” Republicans may start behaving a little differently if they feel the ground shifting under their feet.

Special elections as smoke signals

We also take a look back at 2017, the year after Trump’s first election to see if there are patterns from that round. There were six House special elections that year. Every one of them was held by the party that already had the seat, but the margins tightened in ways that foreshadowed the 2018 blue wave, when Democrats gained 40 seats and ended up with a 235–199 majority.

The pattern feels familiar:

* Weird off-year specials

* “Safe” seats that suddenly don’t look quite as safe

* Margins shrinking in ways that don’t make headlines but absolutely shape strategy

Gerrymanders, independents, and the post-Trump era

We also talk about how gerrymandering can backfire.

Every time a map is redrawn to cram more voters of one party into a “super safe” district, it necessarily weakens another district somewhere else. There’s some evidence that in places like Texas, Republicans may have overreached—moving voters around in ways that actually create new pickup opportunities, especially as some Latino and independent voters drift away from Trump.

At the same time:

* More Americans now identify as independents than as Democrats or Republicans.

* Trump’s second term has turned dissatisfaction into something closer to a revolt for many voters—over his policies, his cabinet choices, and his disregard for the Constitution.

* Candidates in both parties now have more space to say what they’re for, not just whether they’re “for” or “against” Trump.

We talk about Zohran Mamdani’s win in New York City as a good example of a candidate running clearly for a set of policies: affordability, free buses, and more, while acknowledging that what plays in Queens won’t necessarily work in rural Tennessee. But the template of “I am for…” is portable.

Primaries and staying in our lane

We also spend time on primaries and strategy. Short version of my advice:

* In closed or semi-closed primaries, let the local electorate choose the candidate who fits their district. They know their own political terrain and what can actually win there.

Meanwhile, here in California, our gubernatorial race is already crowded—multiple Democrats with statewide or congressional experience, plus Republicans looking to take advantage of a split field. We don’t have a clear “anointed one,” and there’s some nervousness about votes fracturing. But I’m cautiously optimistic there will be some pragmatic coalescing before we hit the top-two cutoff.

So… what can we do this week?

We always try to bring it back to concrete actions. For this week, we suggest:

* Check out Swing Left’s new Ground Truth initiative.They’re launching a program on Tuesday, December 9th(!) focused on early, deep canvassing—knocking on doors, talking to voters now, and feeding that intel back to candidates after the primaries so they’re not flying blind.

* Shop small and local during the holidays.Every dollar you spend at a local business strengthens the community ecosystem we’ll rely on in the years ahead.

* Call your senators.If you share our frustration with Chuck Schumer’s leadership as Senate minority leader, you can let your senators know it’s time for a change.

And as always, we’d love to hear from you:📧 hello@acouplethinks.com📝 Survey: survey.acouplethinks.com

Joyful moments: Napa, Rotary, and “the podcast people”

We close the episode, as we always do, with our joyful moments—because staying in the fight means making space for joy.

This week’s joys included:

* A low-key Thanksgiving weekend trip to Napa with our now-adult kids—Boone Fly Café, wandering downtown, and remembering that being together is its own kind of abundance.

* Aaron’s Rotary Club holiday party, where someone introduced us as “the podcast people” (we’ll take it!) and where Aaron brought the house down singing Blue Christmas.

* The slightly surreal feeling of approaching Episode 50—a mix of pride, gratitude, and “oh wow, now we have to do something special, don’t we?”

If you need a little political context, a little strategy, and a little joy, this one’s for you.

👉 Hit play on “When a Loss Is a Win” wherever you listen to podcasts!

And if it resonates, forward this post to a friend who’s trying to stay engaged and sane in Trump Two.

In this episode, we look back at what it’s meant to create a space where we can process the chaos without letting it take over our lives. Lisa talks about how the podcast has become a “container” that keeps her from getting as ragey or stressed each night, and how grounding it feels to approach Trump Two differently than Trump One. We also reflect on the surprisingly creative, joyful, and strategic resistance we’ve seen this year—from frog-costumed protest dancers in Portland, to Home Depot “buy-and-return” ice scraper actions, to Disney boycotts, to the dedicated voters who are showing up to make a difference.

We also dig into the political shifts happening inside Congress and among GOP voters. We talk about reporting on Republican house members considering early resignations, the eye-popping number of House members who aren’t running for re-election next year, and the massive swings we saw in November—some over 15 or 20 points in districts Trump previously won. And we unpack the messy, faction-vs-faction GOP infighting that has opened the door to things like bipartisan discharge petitions—something so rare that Speaker Johnson has already seen more of them than the previous 30 years combined.

We even get into the more subtle things: the anecdotal stories from Thanksgiving gatherings where once-staunch MAGA relatives quietly admitted they’re done. The slow but steady erosion of Trump’s credibility as everything he promised—cheaper food, housing, healthcare—has gotten more expensive. And the difference between flashy, overnight victories and the long, cumulative “wave” created by lawsuits, protests, marches, postcards, and turnout.

As usual, we shift into action mode: current postcard campaigns, the Tennessee special election, the push from Indivisible to call senators about leadership changes, and a reminder to support small and local businesses during the holidays. And of course, we close with our joyful moments—from a big, warm Thanksgiving filled with family, singing, and leftovers, to painting the home office and clearing surfaces before Tucci the cat claims them for herself.

If you’ve been feeling the exhaustion, the slow burn of anxiety, or the impatience for things to turn faster—this episode offers a breath, a reset, and a reminder that change often builds quietly… until it doesn’t.

👉 Listen to the full episode and join us as we look back on a wild year, celebrate the progress, and think ahead to what the next twelve months might bring.

We organized our gratitude into four buckets: politics, family, lifestyle, and community. (Yes, we categorized our gratitude. No surprise to those who know us!)

Here are the highlights — and you can hear the full conversation in this episode!

Political gratitude (surprisingly, yes)

A few things we’re genuinely thankful for:

* More sunlight on Trump’s Epstein ties and on the victims, which is pushing some of his supporters away from him.

* People resisting ICE and showing up in their communities to protect neighbors.

* Independents and Latino voters peeling off from Trump as affordability, ICE, and healthcare failures come into focus.

* Judges holding the line despite threats.

* Protests and voter turnout — from No Kings Days to November elections with big democratic wins.

It’s not “everything’s fine”; it’s “thank god for the people fighting to keep things from getting worse.”

Family & health

We’re grateful for:

* A healthy family (never taken for granted).

* Time with our adult daughters when everyone’s home.

* Tucci, our new cat, who has taken over the house and our hearts.

* And 30 years of marriage on the 30th! A golden-ish anniversary.

Everyday joys

We talked about:

* Loving our work and the clients we get to help.

* Living in walkable, beautiful Berkeley.

* Lisa’s bullet journal reminded her of the fun we had at several local street festivals, short getaways, and our longer fall road trip.

Community, online and off

Aaron shared how meaningful his internet radio community is, especially after this year’s gathering in Denver. Lisa talked about her July ’97 moms group — 29 years of connection across platforms, life stages, and states.

The internet isn’t always kind, but when it works, it works.

The podcast & a few random gratitudes

We’re thankful for this podcast and for all of you who listen and send feedback. It helps us process this political moment without drowning in it.

And yes, we’re grateful for:

* Vaccines (political or not, they matter).

* Trader Joe’s holiday items, which spark disproportionate joy.

This week’s actions

* Write postcards for ongoing special elections in Florida and Georgia.

* Shop small and local as holiday season ramps up.

* Carry Know Your Rights cards and share them with neighbors.

* Call your reps about the issues weighing on you most.

Joyful moments

We closed the episode, as always, with what brought us joy this week:

* Celebrating Aaron’s and Jolie’s birthdays.

* Jolie’s upcoming visit home.

* Aaron’s safe (and relatively drama-free) trip to Denver.

* A spontaneous Friday night IKEA run that turned into an oddly delightful date night.

* Aaron’s new audio gear that lets him punch buttons and up his late-night radio show hosting game.

* Progress on turning his office into a proper studio (with those IKEA run purchases).

None of this cancels out the fear, anger, or grief so many of us feel. But noticing these moments helps keep us from becoming too stuck.

Want the full conversation?

This was one of our most wide-ranging episodes of the year.🎧 Listen to the full Thanksgiving episode!

And if you’re willing, reply with one thing you’re grateful for — political, personal, or just wonderfully trivial.

We’re grateful for you being here. Happy Thanksgiving. 🧡

We don’t usually do episodes that sit close to the political news cycle, but last week’s frustration with Chuck Schumer and Democratic leadership felt too big to ignore.

After months of being told Democrats had one piece of leverage — the shutdown — the moment they used it, leadership shifted to “Well, actually, we never had leverage.” The whiplash is real, especially when real people’s health care hangs in the balance.

“I don’t want a gentleman. I want a fighter.”

A Politico piece quoting Senator Dick Durbin kicked off our conversation. Durbin praised Schumer for being a “gentleman” when told in advance that Durbin would vote for the deal. That’s… not what this era calls for.

The deeper question:Are Democratic leaders still trying to navigate Trump + Project 2025 with pre-Trump instincts?

Durbin even said in January that resisting Project 2025 was “brand new” and they needed time to figure it out — despite over a year of warning signs. It raises the concern that the old guard doesn’t grasp how much the rules have changed.

Where optimism shows up: the grassroots

We do have some optimistic thoughts after our grousing session!

Groups like Indivisible and 50/51 aren’t shrugging. They’re angry — and they’re gearing up to primary Democratic incumbents who are out of step with the moment. We’ve worked with Indivisible since 2016, and seeing them embrace a Tea Party–style strategy from the left feels like a meaningful shift.

More than 7 million people turned out for No Kings Day. That’s the raw material of political change. Replacing Schumer or other leaders isn’t “divisive” — it’s healthy democracy. It signals that voters want brawlers, strategists, and people who understand that this is not a normal political cycle.

A quick note on format

We recorded this episode on November 12th, and by the time you read this, Schumer’s situation may have already changed. Usually we avoid super-timely episodes for this reason, they can expire fast.

This Week’s Actions

* Write postcards for December special elections.One is in Tennessee for a House seat — another chance to add a Democrat to Congress.

* Shop small and local as you prep for the holidays.Live your values with your dollars.

* Carry “know your rights” cards to share with those who may need them.

* Call your senators and representatives (the 5 Calls app makes it easy).You can even tell your senator it’s time for new leadership if that’s where you are.

* Stay connected:Email hello@acouplethinks.comListener survey: survey.acouplethinks.com

Joyful Moments

Lisa’s joy this week is mostly relief: Aaron’s travel and Jolie’s Thanksgiving plans now look unlikely to be disrupted by the shutdown. And of course, Tucci the rapidly growing kitten continues to be a little chaos machine of joy and distraction.

Aaron’s joy: heading to Denver to see friends, and the reassuring Southwest email confirming his flight is unaffected. Also: deciding just how many masks to pack.

We’ll be back in your feed next Tuesday, right on schedule. Thanks for listening, caring, and staying engaged even in the messy weeks.

If you’ve felt pummeled since 2024, this was a night where many of us finally exhaled.

Two big numbers worth sitting with:

* New Jersey: Nearly 3.6 million people voted—higher turnout than any non-presidential race in the state this century.

* Virginia: More than 3.3 million Virginians cast ballots—the highest non-presidential turnout in the Commonwealth’s history.

This wasn’t a sleepy off-year bump. This was voters—across factions—showing up (data geeks can check out the CNN Exit Polls for all the details)

So…was this a “Blue Wave”?

Short answer: yes, but let’s be precise about what kind of wave.

What we saw:

* Voters choosing competent, grounded candidates who talked about:

* Affordability

* Cost of living

* Social safety nets

* Protecting basic rights

* Less oxygen for performative culture-war nonsense.

* Local electorates picking the right fit for their communities:

* A democratic socialist in New York City.

* Center-left governors in Virginia and New Jersey.

That mix matters. It’s a reminder that there is no one “correct” flavor of candidate—as long as they’re serious about making life more livable for real people.

What this doesn’t mean (sorry, pundits)

We’re all tempted to fling arrows from “Off-Year 2025” straight into “Midterms 2026” and call it data.

Careful.

Off-year electorates tend to be:

* More engaged

* More attentive

* Less easily manipulated by vibes and headlines

That said, the size of these margins and the turnout levels suggest something real:People are paying attention. People are tired of chaos. People are not buying what Trumpism is selling when Trump isn’t literally on their ballot—and his “I wasn’t on it, that’s why we lost” spin is…not reassuring for Republicans who’d like to govern.

If GOP candidates can’t rely on Trump as turnout jet fuel and his endorsements keep underperforming, they either:

* Double down on the cult.

* Or start re-orienting around actually serving their constituents.

We’re rooting—not for one-party rule—but for two functional parties again. Opposition is healthy. Nihilism is not.

The template that’s emerging

Across races, one throughline stood out:

* Talk about cost of living like it’s real (because it is).

* Protect social safety nets without shaming people who need help.

* Refuse to let every conversation be hijacked by culture-war bait.

* Center human dignity—including trans people, immigrants, Jews, Muslims, families on SNAP—without letting bad-faith actors dictate the script.

Candidates who did this well won big in very different places. That’s not magic; that’s messaging plus values plus organizing.

Okay, so what do we do with this energy?

Victories are not a permission slip to coast. They’re proof that work works.

This week’s actions:

* Feed people.The shutdown is over (though it wasn’t when we recorded this episode). Nevertheless, SNAP benefits and shutdown fallout may still be a factor in too many households. If you can, donate to:

* Your local food bank or pantry

* Mutual aid groups in your area

* Stand between vulnerable neighbors and harm.If it resonates and is safe for you:

* Connect with local groups doing accompaniment or patrols where day laborers and immigrants gather.

* Learn how they vet volunteers and keep everyone safe.

* Write where it counts.

* Postcards to Voters and similar groups already have live campaigns for upcoming specials (including congressional). Jump in for a handful of cards!

* Stay in your reps’ inboxes.

* Call or email your senators and House member and tell them:

* You noticed.

* You expect them to protect democracy, voting rights, and safety nets.

* Email us at hello@acouplethinks.com or complete our survey at survey.acouplethinks.com

Joyful Moments (because we refuse to live in despair)

We close the episode, as always, with joy on purpose:

* That election night rush when the calls came in early.

* Connecting with folks through a book club or through activism!

* Anticipation of gathering with online friends in real life, even with storm clouds and airport chaos in the mix.

This is the balance we’re trying to model: eyes open, shoulders squared, hearts soft. Wins don’t erase the work ahead, but they absolutely count as fuel.

If you haven’t listened yet, this Substack goes with this week’s episode of A Couple Thinks—our post-election debrief (in briefs?). Pop in your earbuds, then tell us what you’re seeing where you live and how you’re choosing to stay engaged without burning out.

What stuck with us

* Democracy needs citizens. Vance reminded us that “hopelessness is where autocrats try to push you.” If we disengage, they win by default.

* Institutions vs. people. She argues our core institutions are sound; the threat is people willing to undermine them. Lisa’s take: if the house is strong but built to 1775 codes, it still needs an earthquake retrofit for 2025. Guardrails shouldn’t depend on gentlemen’s agreements.

* Norms aren’t laws. The last decade taught us how quickly norms can be bulldozed. If it matters, codify it. If a norm has been demolished, stop pretending it protects us.

* We are the cavalry. Government “of, by, and for” only works when we act like owners, not spectators.

“What we choose to emphasize in this complex history will determine our lives. If we see only the worst, it destroys our capacity to do something.” —Howard Zinn

That Zinn line helped us. Yes, things are rough. Emphasize only the worst and you freeze. Notice the worst and act, and the story changes.

Retrofit the Republic

We both buy the separation-of-powers blueprint. But blueprints aren’t enough; maintenance matters. Think pragmatic upgrades:

* Clarify what must be law, not culture.

* Modernize the machinery (elections, ethics, transparency) for the world we actually live in.

None of this happens if we cede the field. Small acts compound. That’s the whole premise of this project: Do something, then another thing.

Doable actions this week

Pick one and go do it! (We’d love to hear how it went too!)

* Feed the gap. With SNAP funding in flux and delays hitting real families, donate to your local food bank or mutual-aid pantry. They know how to stretch a dollar more effectively, so money is the best bet for them.

* Write five postcards. Postcards to Voters has two December special elections on deck. Request addresses, hand-write five by next week’s show!

* Adopt the identity: say out loud (and in your bio): “I am a voter.” Identities drive behavior; you’ll be more likely to vote in every election, big and small.

* Leave one voicemail for Congress. Ask your House member to get back to work on governance basics (funding, ethics, safeguarding elections). Polite, firm, 30 seconds.

* Protect your neighbors. If your community organizes legal-observer or “know your rights” patrols, connect and learn how to plug in safely and constructively.

* Recruit one friend. Share this post with a buddy and invite them to do one action with you. Accountability = follow-through.

Got a better action? Hit reply or email hello@acouplethinks.com. You can also drop ideas in our short listener survey: survey.acouplethinks.com.

Joyful moments (because batteries need recharging)

Lisa: Holiday hosting season is my joy generator—menus, lists, and the built-in deadline to finish our home office reset. Also: dressing up for a city evening and hearing Joyce Vance live. Aaron: Turning my office from a boxes-and-cables cave into a simple video studio, and finally parting with old hard drives and mystery cords. And our night in the City.

We’ll keep taking action and making joy as both are necessary and both are contagious. If you went to a book talk, made calls, wrote postcards, or just fed yourself well enough to keep going—tell us. We are, in Joyce’s words, part of the cavalry.

Take a Listen to this week’s episode!

P.S. If Joyce Vance comes through your town, go. And if you’ve read the book, what resonated (or didn’t)?

Aaron started us off by talking about the “bootstrap” stories we grew up with — those tidy promises that hard work automatically leads to success. It’s an appealing mindset, but one that skips over systemic realities like generational wealth, redlining, and unequal access to opportunity. When our worldview is built on incomplete stories, it’s harder to understand why others see things differently.

This week, Lisa came across an Instagram post by Elad Nehorai that inspired our tackling of models and frameworks for today’s episode. He described two models of safety: the hierarchical model — where power is finite and one group’s safety comes at another’s expense — and the solidarity model, where safety and power expand when shared.

That post became a bit of an aha moment for me. Not only because the framework made sense, but because it revealed how both “sides” of a conflict can contain people with either mindset. It’s not strictly left vs. right, it’s about how people see the nature of power and safety itself.

Aaron drew parallels to scarcity vs. abundance thinking and that old pie metaphor we love. In the scarcity mindset, there’s only so much pie to go around; if you get a bigger slice, mine must shrink. In the abundance mindset, we just bake a bigger pie. It’s a simple shift, but it changes everything about how we see possibility, progress, and even peace.

We also revisited George Lakoff’s classic frames: the Strict Father model (authoritarian, rule-based) and the Nurturant Parent model (empathetic, growth-oriented). These lenses shape not only our politics but how we relate to each other. Understanding them doesn’t mean agreeing with them, but it helps us grasp what motivates others so we can find better language for the conversation.

The Frameworks Institute (IG @frameworksinstitute) takes this even further, exploring how deeply these mental models influence our society and how shifting the frame is key to lasting social change. It’s worth a visit if you’re curious about how language shapes thinking.

In a week when local activism met national headlines, with thousands of Bay Area residents mobilizing to defend immigrant rights, it was heartening to see solidarity in action. Safety, shared. Power, expanded.

We can all use a reminder that the stories we tell ourselves shape what we think is possible — and what we believe is worth fighting for. Sometimes the most radical act is simply to turn the cube and see the whole picture.

As always, we like to bring the big ideas down to the level of what we can do — because understanding frameworks is only useful if it leads to better choices and more connection.

This week’s clearest action: vote. If you’re in California, Proposition 50 is on your ballot — a redistricting measure that could influence fair representation for years to come. Ballots are already out, and turnout is strong, but every vote adds momentum. If you’re not yet registered, you can still register and vote in person through Election Day.

For those who want to stay active beyond the ballot box, Postcards to Voters has four campaigns underway, from Georgia to Virginia. Small actions like these build the infrastructure of empathy and representation we’ve been talking about, one handwritten card, one conversation, one mindset shift at a time. And if you want to plug in more directly, Mobilize.us lists dozens of local opportunities every week.

Meanwhile, this week brought a striking local example of solidarity in action: when Trump announced plans to send federal agents, likely ICE, into the Bay Area, thousands of people immediately signed up for resistance training. The sheer speed and scale of that response reminded us that people power is alive and ready. Whether or not that specific action was rolled back because of public outcry or political calculation, it was heartening to see so many neighbors move instantly from fear to courage.

😊 Joyful Moments

We always like to end with joy, because without it, action burns out.

For Lisa, joy this week came from a simple evening in Sausalito, walking by the water with family, breathing in the salt air, and remembering that proximity, whether to people or the ocean, can be healing.

For Aaron, joy continues to arrive in the form of our new kitten, or maybe in the way she’s forced us to clear off our surfaces. It turns out that cats can be tiny, fuzzy Marie Kondos, nudging us toward a tidier home and a fresh perspective. He also reminisced about a favorite childhood book: The King, the Mice and the Cheese, linked as promised, though I couldn’t find it on Bookshop.org so this is an Amazon Affiliate link.

And maybe that’s the metaphor for this week’s conversation: sometimes a small disruption, like a kitten, a community response, a new way of seeing, can shift the whole framework.

Oakland’s No Kings Day ( Indivisible ) felt bigger than June: packed BART cars (yes, we were sardined, and yes, it was the good kind), sun-splashed streets, inflatable costumes everywhere, and that brassy mini-marching band that turned walking into dancing. Joyful and nonviolent. Loud and peaceful. (Here’s the link to watch the video highlighting lots of locations around the country! NoKings.org)

On our way to the staging area, an older Black gentleman turned to us and said he’d been protesting since the ’60s—back when people threw bottles. He came alone. No sign, no shirt, just presence. We were humbled. We talked about how far backward our country has slid—and how we refuse to be still about it.

From Oakland to small towns across the country, clips rolled in all day. Estimates will keep shifting, but the point is clear: many millions showed up. And for some, it was their first time. That matters. Movements grow when new people have good first experiences and come back with friends.

A quick word on “parade vs protest.” We’ve heard the critique. Our take: there isn’t one right way. Saturday events are accessible. Well-organized, family-friendly actions build numbers, skills, and confidence. And nonviolent action is not “weak”—it’s effective. Music helps. Chants help. Radical joy helps. So do safety teams in bright vests, and routes that keep people protected.

We saw neighbors, clients, and folks we haven’t bumped into for years.

The work continues between big events. If you were there—thank you. If you weren’t—there are a dozen ways to plug in this week:

Do This Next

* Californians: Vote YES on Prop 50 (redistricting). Fill out your ballot and turn it in early.

* Donate or volunteer: ActBlue for Prop 50; phone banks and canvassing are happening now.

* Write voters: Postcards to Voters has active campaigns (GA PSC, PA judicial retention, NJ governor).

* Call Congress: Tell your reps what matters to you—brief and consistent beats perfect.

* Spread the word: Share why you showed up (or why you support) and invite one friend to the next action.

We’ll keep collecting your topic ideas—drop them at survey.acouplethinks.com or email hello@acouplethinks.com.

Joyful Moments

We just wrapped an 11-day road trip: family and friends in LA and San Diego, a spontaneous three-hour deep dive on the USS Midway, La Jolla’s art & wine fest, and the sweet relief of coming home. (Bonus drama: a late-night tornado warning in Pismo Beach. Everyone OK. Adrenaline: also OK.)

Momentum feels like this. See you at the next one.

Listen in to the podcast on Substack or Apple/Spotify podcasts for the whole story!

Why we’re going back out

The chaos and cruelty haven’t slowed. Courts and Congress matter, but again and again we’re reminded: it’s up to us. Research shows that when about 3.5% of a nation engages in sustained, visible resistance, authoritarian projects usually can’t hold. June’s estimates ranged from 5–12 million. Let’s meet—and beat—that higher number.

What to do this week (just one thing)

Go to your local No Kings Day on Saturday, Oct 18.Find and register for a NO KINGS DAY event on Mobilize.us

Protest 101 (and 102—no exam, just the practicum)

* Bring friends. Joy is a force multiplier. Make it lunch + rally or rally + lake walk.

* Make/bring a sign. Snarky or serious both work. A few faves:

* “No Faux King Way”

* “It’s giving small dick-tator energy.”

* “Defend the Constitution.” (Perfect if you want strong + civil.)Here’s some sign inspiration!

* Safety common sense. Stay aware of surroundings. If it doesn’t feel right, shift your spot or sit one out and support from the edges (materials, rides, comms).

* Phone tip. Consider turning off Face ID/face recognition during the event; turn it back on later.

* Dad-mode basics. Hydrate, hat, sunscreen, hand sanitizer, comfy shoes. Pocket Constitution optional but on brand.

Chant cheat-sheet (keep it short, punchy, and fun)

* “Hey hey, ho ho, Donald Trump has got to go.”

* “When I say ‘We want,’ you say ‘Justice!’—We want / Justice!”

* Swap in what fits: democracy, healthcare, “No Kings,” etc.Here’s the chant + song link.

Spirit Week energy

If you’re organizing with friends, pick a color or theme. Silly hats totally count. The point is to be seen, heard, and counted—and to make participation welcoming for first-timers. Many people told us June was their first protest ever. Expect more first-timers this weekend—say hi.

Big fish, bigger school

There’s that image of a big fish bearing down on tiny fish—until the small ones move together and form a bigger fish. That’s the assignment. We still have assembly and speech protections—use them so we don’t lose them.

Joyful Moments (because we need those, too)

We’re projecting forward that our road trip left us smiling—and equally happy to be home. Travel is great; coming home to a place you love is its own kind of fuel. Fingers crossed we’re still married after all those miles (for the sake of the podcast, obviously 😉).

See you in the streets and town centers on October 18. Let’s save our democracy together.

Take a listen and don’t forget to register for your local No Kings Day event on Mobilize.US

p.s. Did I jinx us regarding earthquakes when I mentioned not having had an earthquake over 4.3 back in June? The temblor we had a few weeks ago was initially reported as a 4.6, but then downgraded to 4.3.

We wanted to start with a moment of celebration: Jimmy Kimmel is back on ABC, and Sinclair and Nexstar have resumed airing his show. For once, a boycott delivered fast, visible results. We think that’s worth a little dance, a little cheer, and a reminder that wins—especially these days—are worth savoring.

So why did this boycott succeed when others fizzle? We see three main reasons:

* Disney’s reach is massive. Parks, cruises, streaming services, movies, merchandise, ESPN—consumers had countless ways to apply pressure. Revenue dropped immediately and market value followed.

* The outrage was bipartisan. It wasn’t just liberals pushing back on the attack on free speech; conservatives joined in. That gave Disney cover to reverse course.

* Disney didn’t need anything from the administration. Unlike Nexstar and Sinclair, which rely on government approvals for mergers, Disney wasn’t vulnerable to short-term federal leverage. That gave them more freedom to prioritize their customers over political pressure.

The immediacy of consumer action also mattered. People canceled or paused Hulu and Disney+, cut trips to the parks, and shared screenshots of their cancellations online. The speed and visibility amplified the impact.

And here’s an important lesson: once Disney reinstated Kimmel, many of us restarted our subscriptions. Rewarding companies when they do the right thing is as powerful as punishing them when they don’t. It keeps the leverage alive.

Boycotts aren’t always quick fixes. Target and Starbucks, for example, continue to feel the drag of ongoing consumer pushback but haven’t shifted course. Sometimes it takes months or years. But this Disney case reminds us that collective, coordinated action can work—and can work fast.

As always, we close with a few actions for this week:

* Keep talking about Proposition 50 (redistricting) in California, and if you can, donate or sign up for canvassing and phone calling.

* Join a No Kings Day event near you on October 18.

* Write postcards to voters in Pennsylvania, where judicial elections are critical for protecting voting rights.

And on a personal note, we shared some joyful moments too: celebrating Rosh Hashanah with family, reconnecting with neighbors at our block party, and looking forward to our upcoming road trip to Southern California.

Thanks for reading, and thanks for being part of a community that reminds us we do have power when we act together.

The spark was the sudden suspension of Jimmy Kimmel Live! after pressure campaigns, regulatory saber-rattling, and stations dropping the show. Disturbing, yes—and also clarifying. What gave us hope was the swift pushback from across the spectrum: not just Democrats and left-leaning folks, but big conservative voices too.

We heard some commentary about ‘cancel culture’ that resonated: when the “left cancels,” it’s usually market action (wallets and feet—boycotts and turning away). When the “right cancels,” it can look like the state wielding government power. Those are not the same thing. The First Amendment protects us from the government—full stop. That difference matters.

Historian Heather Cox Richardson captured the moment well: the divide isn’t simply left vs. right; it’s “we the people” vs. creeping authoritarianism. That framing helped us name what felt off. It also helped us see why so many “quiet middle” folks woke up quickly to defend a basic guardrail. (Here’s her Substack post that Aaron mentioned).

We also wrestled with the usefulness of left/right labels. They can describe ideas, but they can also reduce people into caricatures. Most of us share a core set of values—safety, fairness, dignity, the freedom to speak. Labels make it too easy to project the worst onto “the other side” and miss where we actually agree.

Do crises catalyze shared values? Often, yes. Towns rally after fires and floods. Maybe this free-speech moment is a civic version of that—one that reminds us we’re neighbors first, partisans second.

What we’re doing (and what you can do)

* Prop 50 (CA redistricting): donate, phonebank, canvass, or simply talk it up with friends. We’re sharing posts as we see good ones and joining Swing Left phone banks.

* Oct 18: No Kings Day protests: showing up matters—especially a few weeks before the election.

* Postcards to Voters: there are at least three active campaigns—grab a stack and write a few.

* Budget & health subsidies: keep calling your reps; steady pressure still counts.

* Share your ideas: email us at hello@acouplethinks.com and take our quick listener survey at survey.acouplethinks.com.

Joyful (and grateful) moments

Lisa: Flu + COVID shots this week (and got Mom in for her flu shot). Grateful for smooth coverage and long lines of people protecting each other. Also: kitten Tucci Aaron: Concurs with kitten Tucci though notes that she’s 50% purr, 50% tiny tiger. He also met up in person with friends made through radio—proof that community can start online and blossom IRL.

If free speech brought you here, welcome. If you’re a longtime listener, thank you for staying in the conversation. We’ll keep centering shared values—and pairing reflection with action.

Lisa found herself struck by how quickly misinformation, disinformation, and conspiracy theories spread. Even reputable outlets and political figures got key details wrong, and social media was filled with wild theories. As she scrolled, she was reminded of how easily our human brains lean into confirmation bias, seeking out information that matches what we already believe and ignoring the rest. Aaron pointed out how doomscrolling feeds that same cycle, keeping us locked in the swirl of uncertainty and fear.

We spent time talking about how to push back on those tendencies:

* Separate news from opinion. Old-school papers used to fence them off. Your feed mashes them together. Notice whether you’re reading verified reporting or commentary reacting to it. (Local outlets near the event can be especially useful for early factual updates.)

* Vet the byline and the source. Is it the real outlet or a look-alike page/account?

* Expect corrections. Early details are often wrong; responsible outlets correct as facts firm up. Build that into your mindset so updates feel like progress, not betrayal.

* Timebox your exposure. Especially at night. Close the apps; don’t go to bed with your brain spinning.

* Name the feeling; pick the action. If you’re anxious or angry, decide what constructive thing you’ll do next (walk, text a friend, donate, volunteer, or learn).

We also reflected on how (and when) to engage on social media. Aaron suggested starting with respect and common ground if you do respond, while Lisa added that sometimes the purpose isn’t just about convincing the original poster—it’s about giving others in the conversation a chance to see a different perspective. But honestly, a lot of the time, the wiser choice is simply to move on.

As always, we closed with some action steps. Lisa shared ways to support California’s Prop 50, opportunities to canvass and phone bank, Signs of Solidarity events, the upcoming No Kings Day on October 18th, postcard writing, and calling elected officials. These are the kinds of tangible, constructive things that help us channel energy away from the noise and toward something positive.

And, of course, we ended with our joyful moments. Our daughter Jolie came home—really to meet our new kitten Tucci—and we spent a wonderful day together at the de Young Museum and a long lunch out. In the midst of such a dark week, that time together was exactly the light we needed.

The episode was originally titled “From Bystander to Upstander,” and we’ve added a short intro tying in some recent events. Here’s the link to the original accompanying Substack post.

The original episode was also before we added the Joyful Moments segment so here’s another pic of Tucci the kitten to keep you going until next week!

Lisa leans toward inviting the not-yet-active folks onto the boats in our River of Justice metaphor. Aaron, on the other hand, feels drawn to talking with people who see the world differently, sometimes very differently, because even small shifts matter.

We don’t totally agree here, and that’s part of the point.

Why “why” doesn’t work

One thing we do agree on: facts and finger-wagging don’t change minds. Lisa shared a framework she picked up from Dan Harris interview with Alison Wood Brooks, PhD who uses TALK:

* Topics

* Ask questions

* Levity

* Kindness

The ask questions part really resonated. In particular, avoiding “why” questions that sound accusatory and instead using “what” questions that invite nuance. Asking “what were the pros and cons you considered?” leaves space for doubt and reflection in a way “why did you vote for him?” never will.

Fear vs. empowerment

Aaron framed it this way: there are two powerful motivators. Fear can push people to act quickly, but usually only to protect themselves. Empowerment invites people to act in line with their values, which tends to stick. It’s a reminder that persuasion isn’t just about arguments, it’s about what kind of action lasts beyond the moment.

Telling your own story

Our daughter Emma added another angle at the dinner table: just calmly share your own beliefs and the journey that led you there. No debate, no demand for the other person to defend themselves. It’s vulnerable, authentic, and sometimes the most disarming approach.

Making it irresistible

We also celebrated a joyful example of irresistible civic engagement: Zohran Mamdani’s New York City scavenger hunt. Over 4,000 people turned out, learned some history, and had fun together. It was politics—but joyful, magnetic politics. Watch it here!

That’s the kind of energy we want more of: not just resisting, but building boats people can’t wait to climb into.

This week’s actions

* California Prop 50 (redistricting): donate if you can; tell three friends; hop on a phone bank with groups organizing now.

* Five Calls: pick an issue and make two calls—scripts lower the barrier.

* hello@acouplethinkscom

* Survey

Joyful moments

* Lisa: scrolling through “when it happens” playlists on Bluesky and Threads…and of course, Tucci the kitten with her laser pointer.

* Aaron: watching Tucci’s personality emerge (while resisting the urge to turn her into a tiny wrestler). Bonus joy: she sleeps through the night!

Tucci’s Instagram

If you try the TALK framework (or host something irresistibly joyful), tell us how it goes: hello@acouplethinks.com. And if you want the weekly action links, subscribe and share!

Lisa came across a TikTok from Elizabeth H, which opened with an introduction to a video of activist and author Glennon Doyle. Doyle starts with a parable:

An anti-war activist stood outside the White House with a candle, night after night. A reporter asked, “Do you really think you’ll change this country by standing here alone?” The activist replied, “Oh, I don’t do this to change the country. I do this so the country won’t change me.”

The reminder that our actions not only aim to create change, but also keep us aligned with our own values, set the tone for our conversation.

We also explored Doyle’s metaphor of the river of justice, which draws on Michelle Alexander’s insight that progress itself is the river, and those who try to stop it are the true “resistors.” The river keeps moving, but it needs boats—boats filled with people who care about reproductive rights, LGBTQ+ equality, the environment, racial justice, democracy, and more.

Our job, as Doyle frames it, is to:

* Find the boat that matters most to us.

* Support the leaders who are already steering.

* Welcome new people aboard with encouragement, not criticism.

* Resist the urge to tear down other boats rowing toward the same horizon.

* And perhaps most importantly, dance, sing, and find joy on the boat, making it irresistible for others to join.

This vision deeply resonates with us. It’s about resisting despair as much as resisting injustice. It’s about channeling skills, passions, and creativity into action—and remembering that joy is not frivolous but essential fuel for progress.

We close the episode, as always, with our “Joyful Moments.” This week’s was extra special: we welcomed a new kitten, Tucci, into our family. Listen in to get the scoop on how we picked her and gave her her name!

Here are some of the resources we mentioned for taking action:

Mobilize.us for September 1st actions

California Redistricting Donation

5calls.org

Postcards to Voters

👉 Tune in to hear the full conversation and join us as we light candles, climb into boats, and keep the river of justice moving.

The trainings lay out three levels of non-cooperation:

* Individual and small group actions

* Collective actions at the community level

* Mass actions like general strikes

It’s a framework that shows how even small steps, like changing your shopping habits or hosting a neighborhood gathering, can ripple outward into something much bigger.

One theme that stood out for us was the focus on gatherings. The trainings encourage people to bring others together, talk about the threats of authoritarianism, and commit to taking nonviolent action. Think of it as building “sleeper cells” of democracy—neighbors and friends practicing small-scale cooperation so we’re ready for larger collective action when the moment comes.

We also found it helpful to hear examples of how the “pillars” of society: business, labor, faith groups, media, education, and others—can be persuaded to resist authoritarian pressure. From Harvard alumni pushing their university to stand firm, to consumers boycotting companies like Target or Tesla, to California standing up against federal overreach, these are the levers of power that matter.

One of the sharpest examples came from the fight over Avelo Airlines, which profited from deportation contracts. If deportation flights become a successful business model, other airlines may follow. The call to action is clear: make Avelo a cautionary tale, not a trend.

And then there’s redistricting. As Democratic Texas legislator Gene Wu reminded participants, the erosion of democracy is happening slowly, piece by piece, and gerrymandering is one of the sharpest tools authoritarian-leaning leaders have. Here in California, Governor Newsom has put forward a measure to counteract Texas’s moves. From our perspective, the message is simple: we need massive turnout to show authoritarians we’re paying attention.

Finally, as always, the trainings encourage us to anchor our work in respect and empathy, even when we disagree politically. Resistance isn’t about uniformity—it’s about standing together in defense of democracy.

We’d love to hear what you think: have you tried watching the trainings? Do you see ways to bring your neighbors or friends into this work? Drop us a note and let us know.

And of course, stick around to the end of the episode for our Joyful Moments—because joy, like resistance, spreads when we share it.

Here are the Resource links we mentioned:

One Million Rising Landing page

Training Videos

Small Business Sign Campaign

State-by-state details about Redistricting

Ground Avelo Airlines Campaign

5 calls (for calling your congresspeople)

Postcards to Voters

A Couple Thinks Survey

Next up, we’ve been away for several days and decided to reprise an earlier episode for your listening pleasure. Take a listen to Echo Chambers and Empathy, for the first time or the second! You can also check our back catalog for any others that you missed.

We weren’t yet doing Joyful Moments in this episode, but we’ll be bringing you two weeks worth of those next week!

Aaron kicks things off by reflecting on the MAGA movement and how sunk costs may be keeping many supporters from reconsidering their choices, even in the face of contradictory evidence. From emotional investment to fear of regret and social pressure, we unpack the psychological weights that keep people from changing direction.

Lisa adds insight from behavioral economics and consumer psychology, drawing on her past experience teaching business students how to make smarter, future-focused decisions. Together, we explore how ideas like loyalty and consistency—often seen as virtues—can sometimes trap us in harmful cycles. We also discuss why identity, language, and social media algorithms can make change even harder, and what kinds of messaging and messengers might help people shift perspective.

If you've ever struggled to let go of something because of how much you’ve already given to it, you're not alone. We hope this conversation helps frame those choices with more compassion and clarity—and reminds you that changing your mind isn’t weakness. It’s wisdom.

Plus, we share a joyful celebration from Lisa’s birthday, highlight some actions you can take this week (including handwritten postcards and upcoming trainings), and leave you with hope for the future.

👉 Take our listener survey👉 Watch the One Million Rising training: Session One and Session Two👉 Voter Research from Sister District

P.S. Next week we’ll be replaying our episode Echo Chambers and Empathy—a timely listen for anyone wrestling with communication across divides.

In this week’s episode, we take a breath and reflect:

* What has surprised us about this podcasting adventure?

* What’s been harder (or easier) than expected?

* What keeps us going?

* What have we learned about ourselves, about each other, and about podcasting itself?

We talk about some favorite episodes (including geeky democracy math and upstander moments), share behind-the-scenes tidbits (yes, we record in separate rooms because of our “animal magnetism”), and celebrate the real MVPs: you, our listeners.

Your feedback, comments, downloads, and shares, has kept our little engine running. And now we’re asking for more.

👉 Take our (very short, anonymous) listener survey:

survey.acouplethinks.comHelp us shape the next 30 episodes by telling us what you want more (or less) of.

And as always, we end the show with our joyful moments—this week, it’s all about summer fruit, DIY compote, and the delight of birthday anticipation.

Here are the links for taking action as well:

One Million Rising Training from Indivisible

Postcards to Voters

5 Calls

Thank you for being part of this journey. We’re so grateful. Here’s to the next chapter.

From speculative health diagnoses about Donald Trump’s swollen legs to breathless predictions about NPR’s demise, we’re surrounded by voices who seem to know what's going to happen next. But as we explore in this episode, those predictions can lead us on a roller coaster of emotion and distraction.

We talk about how it feels when an argument from a podcast makes plenty of sense, only to find reality veer in a completely different direction. We question what happens when we invest in imagined outcomes and then get thrown by what actually unfolds.

And then we ask: what can we do with our attention, our time, and our energy?

Enter the concept of non-cooperation—a term we’re beginning to embrace over “resistance” or “disruption.” Inspired by the One Million Rising training (you can watch it here and sign up for upcoming sessions here), we discuss how ordinary people can make an extraordinary impact by opting out of authoritarian systems, connecting with others, and building the kind of coalitions that create real change.

We also reflect on the networks we already have: our neighbors, our Rotary club, our Indivisible group, and how those could become the foundation for deeper conversations and action. Maybe your action is a postcard-writing group. Maybe it’s a block party. Maybe it's just showing up and saying, “Hey, I’ve got your back.”

And yes, we still find joy from watching Bob Dylan biopics and cat videos that reset our algorithms and our moods.

So here’s the invitation:

* Take in the news, but don’t get swallowed by it.

* Find one thing this week you can do—whether that’s calling your rep, watching a training, or talking to a neighbor.

* And let joy have a seat next to your activism. You’ll need both.

As always, thank you for thinking and acting with us.

With hope and hot takes (but not too hot)!

This week on A Couple Thinks, we’re revisiting a topic from one of our earliest episodes: the relationship between protest, resistance, and disruption—and how that dynamic is shifting in this very urgent moment.

It started with a conversation between us about whether calling our elected officials is still effective. The recent passage of the so-called “Big Beautiful Bill” (or, as we’ve taken to calling it, the large lousy legislation) raised doubts. Many of us called, emailed, protested, pleaded—and still watched it get signed into law.

So what now?

We reflect on how, in moments like this, protest often morphs into resistance. Inspired by a video from historian Tad Stoermer and a recent Indivisible email calling for “1 Million Rising,” we dig into what it means to stand in the way, not just ask for change.

We talk about historical examples—from Thoreau to Mario Savio—and modern ones, like blocking ICE vehicles. We also share our own anxieties and hopes as we sign up for resistance training, explore local opportunities for solidarity, and remind ourselves that even small acts—like calling a rep, sending a postcard, or showing up for a neighbor—can matter.

As always, we round things out with our joyful moments. This time: a trip to the Temescal Street Fair and a deep appreciation for community creativity (and a hot tub soak).

Links we mentioned:

* Tad Stormer video on protest vs. resistance

* Indivisible's 1 Million Rising training from Indivisible Project

* Five Calls app

* Postcards to Voters

Here’s the promised picture of Aaron and the Box of Unknown Power Cords! at the East Bay Depot for Creative Reuse.

Call to Action:Join a protest on Good Trouble Day, July 17. And if you can’t be in the streets, consider resistance in other forms: taking a training, making a call, offering support to immigrant families in your community. Let’s each do something. And together, that can become everything.

In this week’s episode of A Couple Thinks, we take on a provocative hypothesis: Democracy might not work at the scale of 340 million people spread across a huge country.

Lisa walks us through her research into the world’s top-performing democracies, and what they all seem to have in common—smaller populations, higher trust in institutions, and often, more geographic proximity. Think Scandinavia, not superpowers.

{resource: The Economist Democracy Index}

We unpack why scale might matter more than we realize when it comes to empathy, trust, and functional governance. If most people are willing to help someone in their own community but disengage from the struggles of strangers thousands of miles away, what does that mean for national unity?

Aaron expands the conversation by exploring how state identities, geographic hazards, and shared experiences (or lack thereof) can shape our sense of connection—or distance—from one another.

Along the way, we ask:

* What makes a democracy successful—and can it scale?

* Are we living in the United States or just a collection of semi-connected regions?

* Could a looser federation—like a European Union of American countries—work better?

It’s a big conversation about big things: size, empathy, identity, and the real limits of governance.

Plus, in our joyful moments segment, we share road trip dreams and the simple joy of laughter at home.

👉 Listen in and let us know: Is democracy just too big to work at this scale? Would you join the hypothetical “Union of American Countries”? And what would you name your region?

And here are a regular action item recommendations:

Good Trouble Live On events, July 17th. Find info at mobilize.us. Sponsors include: the Transformative Justice Coalition, The Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights, Indivisible. The 50501 Movement, and more!

Postcards to Voters

5calls

📬 Write us at hello@acouplethinks.com—we really do want to know.

In this episode of A Couple Thinks, we reflect on our childhood memories of the 4th of July—bicycle parades, sticky nights, firework shows, and explore how those feelings of civic pride have evolved as we’ve learned more about America’s history and reckoned with its present.

We talk about:

* Growing up near America’s founding landmarks (Aaron in Philly, Lisa in DC)

* Why our kids don’t feel as connected to July 4th traditions

* The co-opting of patriotic symbols and language by the political right

* The tension between rugged individualism and community care

* Why we still believe in showing up, for our country, and for one another

We also share some of our favorite quotes from Mark Twain, Teddy Roosevelt, and James Baldwin that help us define a kind of patriotism that is grounded in love and accountability.

In the end, we agree: loving your country doesn't mean denying its flaws. It means rolling up your sleeves, building community, and insisting on something better, for all of us.

💥 Plus, we share our joyful moments from the week, including a surprise appearance by Joan Baez and a delightful Rotary Club tradition.

👉 Actions This Week:

* Mark your calendar for Good Trouble Day – July 17th: A national protest day in honor of John Lewis. Sponsors include Indivisible, The 50501 Movement and more

* Write postcards to voters and call your senators, especially about that “big, beautiful bill” (or as Aaron calls it, large, lousy legislation).

* And if you're curious about community and service, reach out to learn more about Rotary!

* Jess Craven’s NOTES tab has up to the minute actions you can take. If you’re reading this before the large, lousy legislation vote, please check on her suggested actions!

As always, we’d love to hear from you. Drop us a note at hello@acouplethinks.com with thoughts, questions, or your own July 4th reflections.

In this week’s episode of A Couple Thinks, we dove into a topic that caught both of us off guard in the best way: what if Trump voters can be kind, but only inside a narrow circle?

The episode was sparked by a TikTok from Sara J. McCord (and her business substack Sara McCord) who broke down why some MAGA supporters feel confused when they're treated with suspicion by people outside their political camp. Her framing helped us see how differently people can understand compassion—some zoom in to their familiar circles, others zoom out to humanity at large.

That led us into a broader conversation about tribalism, how our brains evolved to protect our group, and what it takes to shift perspectives without immediately shutting people down. We also discuss psychologist Sam Darling’s instagram reel, who offers her take on how easy it is to be included in MAGA-world, along with a bit of hope on how to build an off-ramp for people leaving toxic communities, without judgment, but with accountability.

And yes, we touch on our own personal growth too: from learning about white privilege, to resisting the urge to clap back online, to raising kids who think globally. Spoiler: travel, Jewish history, and a great Mark Twain quote all make an appearance.

We’re not pretending to have it all figured out. But we do believe in making space for conversation, for growth, and shared humanity.

🎧 [Listen to the episode]📌 Watch the TikTok and Instagram we referenced (linked below and in the post)📝 Drop a comment: What helped you zoom out?

TIKTOK BY SARA J MCCORD re: MAGA voters kindness individually but not globally.

INSTAGRAM REEL BY DARLING.SAM.DARLING re: humans hardwired for groups/tribes etc.

Take Action:

5 Calls (for scripts to call your electeds)

Postcards to Voters

Mobilize.us (look for upcoming actions near you)

No Kings Day was everything we hoped for, and so much more. In over 2,000 locations across the U.S., people showed up with energy, with purpose, and with love for democracy. We were part of the massive Oakland march and rally, and we’re not exaggerating when we say it was one of the most moving civic moments of our lives.

From the speakers (Barbara Lee! Latifah Simon! Buffy Wicks!) to the vibe (joyful, peaceful, purposeful), to the sheer number of people filling the streets, it was a vivid contrast to the posturing coming out of D.C. that same day and the authoritarian actions of ICE, the National Guard and Marine deployment and the treatment of Senator Padilla.

While Trump was busy trying to orchestrate a clumsy military parade, Americans were out in force, demanding dignity, freedom, and accountability. We even saw folks at the march who had never protested before. If you're one of them: thank you. You're our kind of patriot.

In this episode, we reflect on:

* What it was like to be in Oakland on No Kings Day

* How the day contrasted with the authoritarian theatrics in Washington

* Why marches matter — especially now

* What comes next (hint: keep building the muscle)

* And our usual joyful moments, including some gorgeous weather

Whether you were out marching or cheering from home, we hope this conversation keeps your energy high. As we say in the episode, this is a long game. But we’ve got momentum now, and we intend to use it.

🎧 Listen in, and let us know in the comments — did you attend a No Kings Day event? What stood out to you? What do you want to see next?

Resources:

Mobilize.us

Postcards to Voters

Article about Virginia elections (gift)

Part of this one was recorded way back on January 1st, when we were riding a wave of hope (and maybe a little mischief) after noticing some early cracks in the Trump–Musk alliance. We were trying to get a few episodes under our belt before we launched so kept it slightly generic but we never found a good moment to release it and in fact, thought it might stay shelved forever. But then, last week’s very public Trump–Musk breakup changed everything.

So we’re back with that shelved conversation, wrapped in fresh commentary and context.

In this episode, we ask: Is it okay to take glee in MAGA’s dysfunction? Can we savor those moments when the authoritarian juggernaut lurches and sputters, without losing focus or inadvertently hardening the opposition? And more importantly: how do we decide when to share the schadenfreude and when to keep it in the group chat?

We also touch on:

* The disturbing response to LA's peaceful anti-ICE protests

* Trump’s attempted use of the National Guard in defiance of Governor Newsom

* The upcoming No Kings Day protests on June 14th — and why we’ll be in Oakland with signs in hand

* How to be strategic with your social media shares

* A helpful frame: “talk to think” vs. “think to talk” and why it matters in political discourse and relationships

🎧 Whether you’re a cautious optimist, a gleeful resistor, or just someone trying to process all the chaos, we think you’ll find something valuable in this one.

👉 Listen now! We’ll also be sharing a mini-post with sign ideas for No Kings Day — feel free to borrow or remix.

See you in the streets (or the comments).

Visit Mobilize.us to find the No Kings Day events near you. Sponsors include: Indivisible, The 50501 Movement, and many more.

Here’s a link to our Posters/Signs Substack post.

You can find training events for No Kings Day on the No Kings Day website

Aaron kicks things off with a challenge: If you’re someone with the privilege and comfort to be politically visible, get out there. Join a protest. Write to your representatives. But if politics feels too risky or heavy right now … there are still so many ways to “do something.”

We talk about volunteering at food banks, helping out at local events, supporting small businesses, and even joining community organizations like Rotary or your local Chamber of Commerce. These non-political acts of service build community resilience and personal connection.

Lisa shares a few ways to dig deeper into community support systems, from Mutual Aid networks to city-led volunteer opportunities.

In the second half of the episode, we talk about finding balance. Lisa shares some of her favorite places for positive news—from “Under the Desk News” to the Good News Network—and her commitment to a media diet that includes plenty to celebrate, not just outrage.

In our Joyful Moments segment, we celebrate the small wins—from window screen repairs to backyard s’mores. We both rhapsodize about the power of the s’more to bring joy (even the extra-gooey, messy kind). Aaron shares the power of crossword puzzles and finding satisfaction in something as tactile as a sharp pencil and a clever clue.

Links mentioned in this episode:

* Under the Desk News on Instagram Under the Desk News (on Substack)

* Good News Network

* Heather Cox Richardson Letters from an American (on Substack)

* Joyce Vance Civil Discourse (on Substack)

* Preet Bharara: Stay Tuned Podcast and Stay Tuned with Preet (on Substack)

* Tim Miller: The Bulwark Podcast and Tim Miller (on Substack)

* Democracy Docket Democracy Docket (on Substack)

* Mobilize for No Kings Day - June 14

* Postcards to Voters

* Five Calls App

🎧 Listen now—and let us know what you're doing in your own community.

Lisa remembers canvassing with her aunt and being involved in student government. Aaron recounts tagging along with his mom, a judge of elections, to the firehouse polling place in Pennsylvania—learning early on that democracy is both serious and communal (and occasionally involves fire trucks). From student council campaigns to family commitments, our early experiences planted the seeds for a lifetime of engagement.

We also explore how our political lives intersected as young adults—volunteering, organizing, and even lobbying Congress together through Jewish leadership programs. Over time, our activism evolved: from the hopeful energy of Obama’s 2008 campaign to the gut-punch of 2016 and the organizing energy that followed. We also talk about what we’ve learned from our (now adult) kids, how activism looks different in different life stages, and why we’re still writing postcards and showing up when it matters.

If you’re feeling burnt out, nostalgic, or just curious about what shaped us into the people behind the podcast, this episode offers a reflective, and hopefully fun, look at the personal side of civic action. Plus, stay tuned at the end for our joyful moments, which this time involve one long-neglected hot tub.

Resources:

Find your local No Kings Day, June 14th, event at: Mobilize.us

Email us at: hello@acouplethinks.com

In this week’s conversation, we take a breath and take stock. What’s worse than we expected at this point in Trump’s second term? (Spoiler: quite a bit.) What’s better than we expected? (Not quite so much, but still some things made the cut.) And what’s keeping us from going full despair mode this time around?

We talk about the slow pace of the courts, the dangerous erosion of due process, the baffling inaction from Democratic leadership, and the too-familiar media malpractice. But we also share what’s giving us hope: grassroots momentum, emerging voices in Congress, more strategic activism, and even our own ability to stay more grounded than we were eight years ago.

Plus, we spotlight the June 14th No Kings Day protests — a critical moment to show up, speak out, and remind this regime that we do not do monarchs in America.

RESOURCE:Find your local No Kings Day protest/rally/march on Mobilize.us

And of course, we wrap with our Joyful Moments — from delicious Greek pastries to people-watching at local festivals, and even a surprise Lyft ride full of Social Security advice.

This episode is a little bit reflective, a little bit ranty, and (we hope) a lot encouraging. Give it a listen — and if it resonates, share it with a friend who’s trying to stay sane and engaged too.

🎧 Listen now!

In this week’s episode of A Couple Thinks, we dive into the famous Tip O’Neill quote: “All politics are local.” We explore what that really means—and how we’ve seen it play out right here in our own community. From a seemingly innocuous county sheriff running unopposed for years to a militarized police expo called Urban Shield operating under the radar, we share what happened when we learned the truth and decided to get involved.

We also touch on a recent event in Worcester, Massachusetts, where ICE arrests collided with local oversight or the lack of it. And we discuss what went down in Newark, New Jersey, where their local mayor was arrested while visiting a detention center.

But here’s the good news: you can influence what happens in your town and hold back Federal overreach. You can run for office. You can join a city commission. You can write postcards to voters. You can show up to council meetings. Your voice is louder locally than almost anywhere else.

We also highlight resources like Postcards to Voters and Bolts Magazine both of which help connect people to these vital but often-overlooked local efforts. We’ve seen how small actions,like a postcard or a protest, can ripple out into big change.

Postcards to Voters

Bolts Magazine Election Info

As always, we end with our Joyful Moments segment, where we share what’s bringing light into our lives right now from blooming artichokes to our encouraging podcast milestones. Because joy isn’t a distraction—it's fuel for the fight.

We hope this episode inspires you to dig into what’s happening in your own town—and maybe even take that first step to get involved. Change doesn’t only come from the top down. It often starts from the sidewalk up.

🎧 Listen now to our latest episode, All Politics Are Local

We talk about what’s within our control (our values, our actions) and what’s not (other people’s behavior, the slow pace of institutional change). And we ask tough questions—like, are some of our elected leaders misapplying “acceptance” when they actually have the power to act? We name names, we talk wins, and we celebrate the people and movements standing up instead of sitting back.

This episode isn’t just philosophical musing—it’s a call to action. Whether you’re drawn to snail-mail protests, street rallies, calling your senator, or simply showing up in your community, we make the case for doing what you can do—and rejecting the idea that there’s only one right way to care or to act.

Plus, we close with our favorite segment: Joyful Moments. Spoiler alert—there’s a neighborhood fair, a sweet TV date, and some Cherry Festival nostalgia.

🎧 Give it a listen and then go do your one thing. That’s enough.

What’s Next?

We welcome your thoughts — feel free to leave comments below. Let's continue the conversation, and join us next week as we explore the next wave of developments in this ever-evolving landscape.

We've seen a lot of chatter, both online and off, about how protests should look, who should show up, and whether nonviolent protests actually work. Some folks criticize protests for being too tame, too broad, too white, too much fun (yes, really). Others argue they're not disruptive enough to grab media attention or make real change.

In this episode, we push back on that framing. We talk about why building protest muscles by showing up, especially when it's joyful, imperfect, and nonviolent, is a crucial part of creating momentum. We also look at how protests, even when they don't dominate headlines, quietly build networks, shift public conversations, and prepare us for moments when rapid, large-scale action is needed.

We revisit ideas from one of our earlier episodes, Resist, Protest, Disrupt, and share some fresh real-world examples, including:

* Why small-town protests matter more than you might think

* How the Overton Window can shift

* How peaceful resistance protects protestors and highlights injustice

* Ways to spread protest energy beyond traditional media bubbles

And, of course, we wrap up with a joyful moment from our week — because finding and creating joy matters, too.

🎧 Tune in to the full conversation above or wherever you listen to podcasts!(And if you're fired up after listening, we'd love it if you shared the episode with a friend.)

Thanks for thinking — and acting — with us.

Visit Mobilize.us for May 1st actions.

Mentioned in this episode: Aaron’s Radio Show, every Tuesday, live on Stationhead.com.

Lisa starts us off with a reflection on the Golden Rule ("Do unto others as you would have them do unto you") and the more empathetic Platinum Rule ("Do unto others as they would have done unto themselves"). We talk about what it means to truly put yourself in someone else's shoes and how that act of imagination is essential for protecting justice.

Aaron adds some historical context and personal perspective, including the importance of seeing these issues not as abstract or distant, but as deeply possible in our own lives. If you've ever thought “that could never happen here,” this is the episode for you.

But we don’t stop with outrage—we share actions you can take, from joining May 1st protests to sending hand-written snail mail to government offices as a form of civil resistance. And because many of you told us how much you appreciated the joy in last week's episode, we’re starting a new segment: Joyful Moments.

This week’s joyful moments include a protest dance party on a sunny Berkeley street, a surprisingly satisfying Popeye’s pickle-themed meal, and the beauty of a walk in perfect spring weather. Because joy is resistance too—and we need it now more than ever.

📬 Want to try the snail mail protest? Here are the addresses to use:

White House: 1600 Pennsylvania Ave, NW; Washington, DC 20500

DOGE: 1650 Pennsylvania Ave, NW; Washington, DC 20504

Department of Homeland Security (DHS): 245 Murray Lane SW; Washington, DC 20528

Supreme Court: 1 First Street, NE; Washington, DC 20543

You can also look up your local ICE offices.

🗓️ Looking for a May 1st action? Try mobilize.us

Let us know what you think—and tell us: what’s your joyful moment this week?

So we started with Passover.

Last weekend, we hosted our annual Passover Seder. Thirteen of us gathered around the table, telling stories, laughing at the same old dad jokes, and singing preschool songs that haven’t left our repertoire—even though the youngest guest was 18. It was a joyful evening. And that joy, we realized, was something we’d intentionally created.

That’s where today’s episode begins: with the idea that joy isn’t just something you stumble upon. It’s something you can make—even when the world feels like too much.

We talk about how authoritarian forces (and just modern life, frankly) can make us feel isolated and helpless. But joy is a kind of resistance. Connection is power. And there are lots of ways to find it.

In this episode, we cover:

* The silliness and sweetness of our Seder traditions

* Why dad jokes still work (sometimes)

* What it means to be news-avoidant and why that’s okay

* The philosophy of imagination, and how to use your mind to write a new story

* The beauty of flower photos, shadow-and-light walks, and impromptu neighborhood art

* Why it’s not selfish to enjoy your life—and how joy can make you stronger for the fights ahead

* A spontaneous product pitch for “shower karaoke” (Ronco, call us)

As always, we’re grateful you’re here. We’re 15 episodes in (!) and still learning, experimenting, and figuring out how to show up with humanity and humor. We hope this episode brings you a moment of lightness—and maybe inspires you to make a little joy of your own this week.

What’s Next?

We welcome your thoughts — feel free to leave comments below. Let's continue the conversation, and join us next week as we explore the next wave of developments in this ever-evolving landscape.

From the pointed (and sometimes hilarious) protest signs to the surprising sense of celebration and solidarity, the vibe in Oakland was undeniable. There were families, first-timers, old-school activists, stroller-pushers, drum circles, dogs, and even a Black Panther museum detour that reminded us of Oakland’s deep roots in community-based action. It felt good to be there—and even better to realize we were part of something massive.

But the protest wasn’t just about one moment. It was about building momentum. In the episode, we talk about what might come next, why turnout matters (especially in so-called red towns), and how this could be the beginning of a broader movement—one that pushes both parties to respond, act, and lead.

We also talk about:

* Why joy and celebration are essential to resistance

* What history can teach us about the power of collective action

* How events like these challenge right-wing narratives

* And why we all need to show up again—and bring a friend

🎧 Listen to the episode now and let us know what you think. And if you went to a protest on April 5, we’d love to hear about your experience—either in the comments below or email us at hello@acouplethinks.com.

In this podcast episode, we talk about what’s already happened — and what’s at risk if we don’t push back now. Aaron shares some particularly disturbing updates from historian Heather Cox Richardson’s recent essays, including how 60 million Americans could be impacted by rushed, chaotic changes to Social Security systems. We also discuss the broader pattern of destruction — and how it's not about fixing inefficiencies, it's about shifting power and wealth away from everyday people.

RESOURCES:

Mobilize.us (click on the Map tab to be inspired!)

💥 Spoiler: We’re not just here to be outraged. We’re here to do something.

That’s where April 5th comes in. There’s a nationwide Day of Action happening that Saturday — with more than 600 events (since we recorded this number has gone up to more than 900) planned around the country (and even internationally). The message? Hands off our Social Security. Hands off our parks. Hands off our elections. Hands off our future.

We know that protests can raise questions — especially about safety, effectiveness, and logistics. So in this episode, we share what we’ve learned from decades of participating in actions together, and offer practical tips to help you feel confident and prepared.

🎧 Here’s what you’ll hear in the episode:

* What the administration has already done — and why it matters

* How changes to Social Security could affect millions

* Our take on the real reason public institutions are being dismantled

* Why April 5th matters so much — and how to find an event near you

* Protest safety 101 (including the cardboard sign pro tip!)

* The joy and power of showing up together

🎧 [Listen to the full episode above

✊ Ready to Take Action?

Head to Mobilize.us and type in your zip code to find a Hands Off event near you. You can also check with your local chapter of Indivisible, Women's March, or 50501 — many are co-sponsoring events and offering training or prep calls in the lead-up to April 5th.

If you’re in the Bay Area and want to meet up with us for an event, send us a note at hello@acouplethinks.com — we’d love to connect.

This is the moment to be seen. To be counted. To be part of the resistance — not just online, but in the streets.

Together, we can make some serious noise.Hands off. We’re watching. We’re here. And we’re not backing down.

Let us know in the comments if you’re going (or have gone) to an April 5th event!

RESOURCES MENTIONED: Find an action near you (for April 5 or beyond) at Mobilize.us

Aaron opens up about his early exposure to Holocaust education and how the poem first took root in his thinking. Since 2015, it’s become a touchstone—a flashing red warning light—as we've watched scapegoating, cruelty, and extrajudicial action unfold in real-time. From the Muslim ban to secretive deportations, and the current administration's growing disregard for the rule of law, we explore the chilling parallels that are easy to dismiss—until they're not.

We also dive into two recent stories: the deportation of hundreds of men to a supermax prison in El Salvador and the targeting of a Palestinian student who exercised his right to protest in the U.S. Both stories echo the warning in Niemöller’s poem: If we don’t speak up when others are targeted, we may find no one left to speak up for us.

This episode is a reminder that what seems unthinkable can happen quickly—and that being “alarmed” may actually be the most reasonable response right now. We end with a look at upcoming opportunities for collective action, and a call to show up however you can.

We hope you’ll take the time to listen to this one all the way through. It’s not always easy, but it is necessary. Let’s stay awake—and let’s stay loud.

The Rhetoric Reality

From slippery slopes to exaggerated edge cases, topics like abortion dominate over discussions about the economy and healthcare. This week's podcast episode delves into these distractions and why they're designed to lead the narrative astray.

Finding the Middle Ground

As we navigate polarized dialogues, it's crucial to understand the louder voices often stem from the extremes. We discuss the challenges Democrats face in maintaining their principles while staying electable and the consequences of focusing on viral soundbites.

Engage and Shift Focus

How can we bring more essential issues to the forefront? We propose starting meaningful conversations that recognize nuance and redirect attention to topics impacting our daily lives. Please tune in to hear our take on these dilemmas and more.

Conclusion

Eager to explore these ideas further? Listen to our full podcast episode, where we tackle these challenges. Join us in the comments with your thoughts and suggestions too—let’s navigate these waters together!

The reality is, in high-pressure situations—whether it’s witnessing an act of public harassment or facing institutional pressure to compromise values—our ability to respond effectively often comes down to one thing: preparation.

Resources Mentioned:

Right To Be (info on Upstanding, including training)

Engaging Bystanders information from the National Sexual Violence Resource Center

The Power of Planning Ahead

There are two main areas where planning your response makes a difference:

* In-the-Moment Situations – When you're physically present and witnessing something happening right in front of you.

* Organizational Challenges – When a business, nonprofit, or institution is forced to navigate new policies or restrictions that may challenge its core values.

Both require clarity about your boundaries, confidence in your decisions, and a willingness to act.

What Would You Do in the Moment?

Recently, a disturbing incident in Coeur d’Alene, Idaho, put this question into focus. A woman at a town hall was physically removed by security personnel who had no legal authority to do so. The video of the event circulated widely, with many people asking, Why didn’t anyone do anything?

It’s a fair question. But the truth is, when we don’t plan for moments like this, we often freeze. That’s why understanding how to be an upstander—someone who takes action rather than standing by—is so critical.

Here are a few strategies:

* Support the person being harassed. Instead of focusing on the aggressor, check in with the person being targeted. A simple, “Are you okay? Do you need help?” can be powerful.

* Use your presence. Standing with someone, making eye contact, or engaging them in conversation can shift the dynamic and de-escalate the situation.

* Document what’s happening. If safe to do so, record the event. Videos have been crucial in holding people accountable and ensuring that justice is served.

* Speak up as a group. There’s power in numbers. If multiple people in the crowd had verbally challenged what was happening—saying, “This is not how we do things here”—the situation could have unfolded differently.

The more you think through these possibilities in advance, the easier it becomes to act when it counts.

Planning Your Organizational Response

It’s not just individuals who need to be prepared. Organizations, especially nonprofits and businesses, are facing increasing pressures to comply with shifting government policies.

A recent example? Changes in National Endowment for the Arts (NEA) grant applications that prohibit references to diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI). Some organizations can work around this by subtly adjusting their language. But for others, DEI is at the core of their mission, making this restriction a direct threat to their values.

So what should organizations do?

* Decide your red line ahead of time. What are you willing to adjust, and what will you absolutely not compromise?

* Anticipate escalation. If you comply now, will more restrictions follow? How far will you go before saying no?

* Consider alternative funding. If grants or contracts come with unacceptable conditions, is there another way to sustain your work?

Just as individuals need to prepare for how they will respond in difficult moments, organizations must think strategically about their long-term integrity.

A Call to Action

Being an upstander isn’t always easy. It can feel uncomfortable, risky, or even overwhelming. But when more people step up, it shifts the balance of power.

If you take nothing else away from this conversation, let it be this:

* Think about your response before you find yourself in a tough situation.

* Learn about upstander strategies and how to support people in crisis.

* If you’re part of an organization, define your boundaries now—not when you’re in the middle of a difficult decision.

When enough people are willing to stand up, speak out, and push back, we create a culture where silence is no longer the default.

What do you think? Have you ever been in a moment where you wished you had done more—or one where you stepped up? Let’s continue the conversation in the comments.

The Dilemma: Frustration vs. Empathy

Let’s be real: It’s hard to feel patient and welcoming when faced with people who either sat out the last election or actively supported harmful policies. The instinctive reaction is often frustration, anger, or even resentment. After all, how could they not see what was happening? How could they ignore the warnings and vote against their own interests—or worse, against the well-being of others?

But if our ultimate goal is to stop the harm and move toward real progress, we need more people on board. And that means finding a way to help them step onto the right path—without making them feel unwelcome.

Creating On-Ramps, Not Just Off-Ramps

A big part of this conversation centers on off-ramps and on-ramps—how people can leave harmful ideologies behind and, just as importantly, how they can find a way to engage with a better alternative.

Some voters may not be ready for a full ideological transformation, but they are looking for ways to take action on the issues that impact them—whether it’s job security, voting rights, healthcare, or the economy. That’s where we have an opportunity: instead of trying to change everything about their worldview overnight, we can meet them where they are and help them take the next step.

Finding Common Ground Through Action

One of the most effective ways to grow the coalition isn’t through abstract political debates, but through issue-based engagement. Instead of framing every conversation as a battle between left and right, we can ask:

* Do you care about your right to vote? Here’s how proposed legislation could take that away—and what you can do about it.

* Do you want public lands and national parks to stay protected? Here’s why defunding these programs hurts your community.

* Are you frustrated that your job was cut or that your healthcare costs have skyrocketed? Let’s talk about who’s making those decisions—and how to push back.

When people start engaging politically over an issue that directly affects them, they often start seeing the bigger picture. That’s how movements grow—not just by changing minds in one big moment, but by giving people meaningful ways to participate in change.

The Work Ahead

Growing the coalition doesn’t mean we have to excuse harmful past decisions, and it doesn’t mean we have to personally befriend everyone we hope to persuade. But it does mean that if we want real progress, we have to be strategic about bringing people in rather than pushing them away.

This isn’t about forgetting or forgiving—it’s about winning. And that starts with showing people where they fit in the fight for a better future.

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What are your thoughts? How do you balance frustration with the need to bring more people into the movement? Drop your comments below or reply—we’d love to hear from you.

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Understanding "On Tyranny" by Timothy Snyder:

1. Do Not Obey in Advance:

Aaron highlighted the importance of resisting the urge to comply preemptively with authoritative demands.

2. Defend Institutions:

The decay of institutions is a recurring theme. There's a pressing need for citizens and Congress alike to stand up for the structures that uphold democracy, preventing them from becoming mere shells of their former selves.

3. Make Eye Contact and Small Talk:

This point emphasizes the power of human connection. Engaging with others in simple ways can foster understanding and break down barriers, highlighting our shared humanity.

4. Be Calm When the Unthinkable Arrives:

Staying grounded in chaos can lead to better decision-making. Historical references, like those post-9/11, show how fear can lead to irrational actions, underscoring the need for calm amidst turmoil.

5. Be a Patriot:

Lisa and Aaron discuss the distinction between nationalism and true patriotism. A genuine patriot champions the nation's ideals, seeking improvements and holding universal values dear.

6. Be as Courageous as You Can:

Courage is essential in defending freedom. Although the idea of dying for freedom might seem dramatic, collective action can lead to significant change without resorting to violence.

Delving into "Why Civil Resistance Works":

Strategic Logic of Nonviolent Conflict:

Lisa and Aaron explored the strategic benefits of nonviolent campaigns, backed by extensive research. Key findings reveal that nonviolent efforts often succeed more than violent ones, emphasizing the necessity of mass participation.

Mass Participation:

Having a wide range of participants, including women, children, and people from various political backgrounds, strengthens nonviolent movements. It's about showcasing unity without using extreme force.

Nonviolence Encourages Defections and Stability:

Nonviolent actions often lead to more stable post-conflict environments, encouraging defections from authoritarian supporters. They offer a smoother transition back to civil life compared to violent upheavals.

Action Steps and Final Thoughts:

Lisa shared that using tools like ChatGPT to summarize books is a practical way to grasp complex ideas swiftly. It's important to ask deeper questions, making the information actionable. For those interested in further reading, sharing book recommendations in the Substack comments could foster rich discussions and insights.

As Aaron points out, engaging with history, even through summaries, can bridge knowledge gaps, enriching our understanding of past events and lessons.

Reflecting on these books opens up avenues for thought and action. By learning from history and engaging with proactive resistance, we can cultivate a society that values democracy, unity, and resilience. Stay informed, stay active, and let history guide our collective efforts for a better future.

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Sorting Through the Chaos

🔹 Noise & Distractions – The idea of renaming the Gulf of Mexico to "Gulf of America" is nothing more than a political stunt designed to provoke outrage. Much like the “freedom fries” fiasco, it’s an attempt to shift focus from real issues by sparking a culture war debate. While it may dominate headlines for a few days, it holds no real consequences. Instead, let’s keep our energy on what truly matters.

🔹 Wait and See – The proposed plan to turn Gaza into a resort while displacing over a million residents is deeply concerning but currently unrealistic. While it may serve as a talking point for certain political factions, its chances of happening in the near future remain low. That said, we should remain vigilant and ready to act if this moves beyond rhetoric. For now, watch closely but don’t let it consume all your attention.

🔹 Take Action – The corruption case surrounding NY Mayor Eric Adams isn’t just about one politician—it highlights how political leverage can be used to manipulate power structures. There are serious concerns about how federal agencies are being weaponized to apply pressure in ways that benefit certain political agendas. For New Yorkers, now is the time to engage Governor Hochul and other local politicians and demand accountability. For those outside the city, spreading awareness and understanding the broader implications is key. Corruption cases like these set dangerous precedents that affect democracy as a whole.

🔹 Legal Battles & Executive Overreach – In the midst of political chaos, one of the bright spots is the judiciary standing firm against executive overreach. Judges refusing to bow to political pressure are maintaining critical legal safeguards that protect democratic institutions. However, these legal battles require resources, and supporting organizations that fund these challenges is crucial. Donating to legal defense funds can help ensure that these cases continue to be fought in court. A well-functioning legal system is one of the strongest tools against unchecked power.

🔹 Privacy Threats – Government data collection practices, especially those tied to Elon Musk, pose an increasing threat to personal privacy. The so-called “Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE)” is making moves that could compromise individual security, and these concerns shouldn't be ignored. One immediate step you can take is freezing your credit to prevent identity theft and unauthorized access to financial data. Additionally, supporting legislative efforts to impose stricter privacy protections is crucial. The more attention this issue gets, the harder it becomes for lawmakers to ignore.

🔹 Media Manipulation – Recent Oval Office meetings featuring Elon Musk’s child may seem like a minor anecdote, but they hint at deeper power plays at work. Musk’s proximity to Trump suggests an evolving relationship that could influence policy decisions in even more ways that benefit his personal empire.

Clarity in Action

Staying informed isn’t just about consuming news—it’s about choosing how to respond. Some issues demand immediate action, while others require patience and strategic observation. The key is knowing where to direct your energy so that it leads to meaningful change. Whether it’s engaging in local discussions, speaking out online, or taking direct action, your voice matters.

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Why Taking Action Matters

Recent events have highlighted the need for multiple strategies in activism. While protests can show collective strength, it's also essential to engage in resistance and disruption to challenge the issues we face. This multi-level approach allows people to participate in ways that suit their abilities and circumstances.

Understanding the Actions

* Protest is about visibly standing up against issues by gathering with others to raise awareness.

* Resistance involves taking concrete steps, like contacting representatives or supporting local initiatives, to oppose harmful policies.

* Disruption is more assertive, interrupting harmful systems to draw attention and force change.

Each approach is important, and the right choice for each person might be different depending on their unique circumstances. There is almost always a way to engage though!

Get Involved

Reflecting on past movements reminds us that everyone can play a part, whether directly or indirectly. Consider joining groups like Indivisible or other community organizations that align with your values. Check our our Resources List for more options as well.

Making It Work for You

Disruption involves risks, but it's essential in bringing about change when systems fail. Evaluate your capacity to engage, and if direct action isn't feasible, consider supporting those who can through donations or logistical help.

Find Your Path

Knowing what you’re comfortable doing helps maximize your impact. Whether it’s organizing rallies, writing to elected officials, or supporting disruptive actions, every effort counts.

Helpful Resources

Connect with groups that fit your interests:

* For Protesting: Look for organizations that organize public demonstrations.

* For Resisting: Join your local Indivisible group or others that are effectively resisting.

* For Disrupting: Align with groups focused on issues you care about.

These connections will provide the support and guidance needed for effective action.

Final Thoughts

Engaging in protest, resistance, and disruption is about taking steps towards a better future. Every small action adds up, contributing to a larger movement for change. Let's keep the conversation going and share our actions and resources to strengthen our efforts together. Thanks for being part of this important journey!

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Finding Empowerment Through Action

Lisa emphasizes, "Anger into action." By transforming frustration into empowerment, we gain a sense of control. Focusing on what can be done is the key to overcoming feelings of helplessness that authoritarianism can inspire.

Taking Concrete Steps

There are numerous ways to exert influence and make a difference. We provide a useful list of resources with links in our companion substack post and encourage you to share your own in the comments on this episode or in that post.

We hope this episode highlights the importance of personal engagement in shaping the future. By transforming emotion into effort, and supporting one another, we can safeguard the values we cherish. While challenges remain, we believe our practical advice provides a roadmap to action for anyone looking to make a difference in these trying times.

Remember, finding joy in between these actions can fuel your journey. Dance, sing, or share a laugh, because joy is a powerful tool in the fight for a better world.

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Understanding the Impact of January 6th Pardons

Aaron opens up the discussion by highlighting the disturbing nature of the pardons issued for those involved in the January 6th riot. Comparing it to a contagion, he emphasizes the implications of releasing individuals who pose a threat to societal safety and justice. For many, it conjures fears of retribution among those who testified against violent participants. Although it seems irreversible, Aaron encourages monitoring the reactions of public servants, utilizing these moments as a litmus test for their commitment to the rule of law.

Lisa agrees with the sentiment and stresses the importance of not being consumed by outrage. While she acknowledges the legitimate fears surrounding the pardons, Lisa suggests that individuals should focus on what can be influenced and not get mired in the outrage cycle.

Birthright Citizenship Executive Order: A Call to Action

Turning to Trump's executive orders, particularly the one aimed at birthright citizenship, Lisa outlines the proactive steps citizens can undertake. Citing its constitutional basis in the 14th Amendment, she emphasizes the necessity of public opinion in challenging this executive overreach. Engaging in discussions, connecting with elected officials, and leveraging organizations like the ACLU are pivotal actions. Aaron reinforces the message, urging listeners to understand the constitutional depth of the matter and to vocally oppose any attempts to undermine it.

Reflecting on Elon Musk's Controversial Act

Both hosts express their horror over Elon Musk's controversial Nazi salute. Despite the initial shock and outrage, Lisa advises against letting such events steal one's peace. She encourages noting the event but urges listeners to prevent it from diverting attention away from pressing issues, such as the defense of constitutional rights. Aaron agrees, advocating for a focus on meaningful actions rather than distractions.

Managing the Onslaught of Information

In concluding their conversation, Aaron and Lisa reiterate the importance of categorizing and processing information effectively. They discuss the need for balance — recognizing what can be changed and accepting what cannot — while channeling energy into actionable areas. With new challenges emerging constantly, focus and collective effort hold the potential for change.

If you've felt lost amidst the constant stream of troubling news, we hope this structured approach offers clarity. By selectively engaging with key issues like birthright citizenship, and standing firm on constitutional principles, individual actions can contribute to broader societal change.

Remember, the power lies with informed and passionate citizens. With thoughtful categorization and action, we can navigate the chaos together.

What’s Next?

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Note from Lisa: We recorded this episode before Ann Telnaes, the Editorial Cartoonist at the Washington Post, resigned over the killing of a cartoon she had drawn of billionaire tech and media chief executives bending their knees to Trump. Since then, additional journalists and editorial writers have resigned and many of the staff have been laid off. I am not sure we would so easily renew our subscription today.

The Evolution of News Consumption

Reflecting on past experiences, Lisa and Aaron discuss how news consumption has evolved from traditional newspapers to today's overwhelming digital outlets. Aaron recalls growing up with multiple newspapers and contrasts it with the current landscape dominated by online media, where clickbait headlines are rampant.

Lisa shares an assignment from her high school years that opened her eyes to the use of charged language in news reporting. This exercise instilled a lifelong ability to discern biased language in media, highlighting the importance of being critical consumers of information.

Clickbait headline AND Authentic Journalism

The duo explores the use of attention-grabbing headlines even in credible journalism. They discuss how traditional media outlets, under pressure to maintain readership in the digital era, might lean towards sensationalism to draw clicks. Aaron offers skepticism about the practice of placing corrections deep within a publication, reducing their visibility despite their importance.

Lisa emphasizes the responsibility of discernment. She discusses how understanding the role of opinion pieces versus journalistic articles can help readers navigate the information maze. Aaron adds that recognizing the dichotomy between opinion and fact-based reporting is crucial for informed media consumption.

Following Journalists Over Publications

One practical tip Lisa suggests is following individual journalists on social media platforms rather than only the publications they write for. She argues that direct engagement with journalists offers a less sensationalistic perspective and provides more context than a catchy headline might. Aaron agrees, emphasizing the benefits of getting news from diverse, reputable sources rather than falling into the echo chambers of personally curated content.

Enhancing Media Literacy

To further arm themselves against clickbait, both Lisa and Aaron advocate for media literacy as an invaluable skill. They propose actively questioning the motivations behind headlines, understanding the intent to influence public perception, and considering how different platforms and writers present information.

Action Steps for Informed Consumption

Aaron and Lisa offer some actionable steps for readers:

* Practice Critical Listening and Reading: Engage with media by questioning the neutrality of the language used. Determine if words in headlines and stories are neutral, overly positive, or overly negative.

* Follow Journalists: Beyond publications, follow journalists on various social media outlets to gain direct insights into their reporting, bypassing potentially misleading editorial spins.

* Understand the Context: During conversations about media, seek alternative viewpoints to challenge and broaden personal understanding of topics.

* Be Aware of Psychological Biases: Acknowledge and manage emotional responses to provocative media.

* Consider Multiple Sources: Explore a range of news sources to view issues from different perspectives, ensuring a more balanced understanding of events.

Lisa and Aaron hope to help readers better understand and navigate today's media. They aim to encourage a balanced approach—staying critical while keeping an open mind—to the vast amount of information we encounter daily.

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Introduction

We discuss our experiences with echo chambers—those spaces where we're exposed only to ideas that reinforce our existing beliefs. Aaron shares that he finds empathy and curiosity to be essential in breaking out of these bubbles. However, we both agree that it can be challenging, especially when encountering extreme viewpoints.

Challenges of Empathy

Lisa points out that empathy becomes difficult when people express harmful or intolerant views, especially when those views threaten personal rights. She emphasizes that empathy has its limits when it comes to those who actively harm others or advocate for injustice.

Personal Boundaries with Empathy

We both feel that while empathy is important, there are moments when it’s necessary to draw a line, especially when engaging with extreme opinions. For example, Lisa mentions that she finds it hard to empathize with figures like Nick Fuentes, as their views are just too repulsive for her to engage with. It’s clear that some views simply don’t deserve our empathy.

Broadening Perspectives

Aaron says he makes a conscious effort to read from sources that may not align with his own beliefs—like conservative op-eds—because it helps him understand where others are coming from. Lisa agrees, adding that it’s crucial to question and fact-check information, even within our own echo chambers, to avoid spreading misinformation and deepening divides.

Empathetic Listening

We also talk about the value of empathetic listening, which means really hearing someone else’s perspective without immediately jumping to counterarguments. It’s a great way to make people feel understood and to have more productive conversations, even with those who hold opposing views.

Practical Steps for Action

In terms of actionable steps, we suggest acknowledging the echo chamber we’re in and making an effort to listen to diverse perspectives—even if it’s uncomfortable. For Aaron, reading different viewpoints is key, while Lisa suggests fact-checking the information in our own bubble to avoid spreading misinformation. We both agree that it’s better to filter extreme sources and focus on more moderate perspectives to minimize conflict or distress.

The Importance of Moderation

Finally, we talk about the importance of moderation. We can push ourselves to test our limits by reading opposing opinions without getting upset or rejecting them right away. It’s a way to grow and develop more empathy.

Avoiding Toxic Online Spaces

We ended the episode with a bit of humor, discussing how we avoid the toxic environment of online comment sections, which can feel like extreme echo chambers on steroids. It’s a reminder that sometimes, the best thing to do is simply not engage with that kind of negativity.

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