<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd"><channel><title><![CDATA[Symposium]]></title><description><![CDATA[Bringing people together to have conversations about the nature of liberalism and a free society.
 <br/><br/><a href="https://symposium.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast">symposium.substack.com</a>]]></description><link>https://symposium.substack.com/podcast</link><generator>Substack</generator><lastBuildDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2026 18:19:03 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/165912.rss" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><author><![CDATA[Robert Tracinski]]></author><copyright><![CDATA[Symposium]]></copyright><language><![CDATA[en]]></language><webMaster><![CDATA[symposium@substack.com]]></webMaster><itunes:new-feed-url>https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/165912.rss</itunes:new-feed-url><itunes:author>Robert Tracinski</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Strengthening the intellectual foundations of a free society.</itunes:subtitle><itunes:type>episodic</itunes:type><itunes:owner><itunes:name>Robert Tracinski</itunes:name><itunes:email>symposium@substack.com</itunes:email></itunes:owner><itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit><itunes:category text="News"><itunes:category text="Politics"/></itunes:category><itunes:category text="Society &amp; Culture"><itunes:category text="Philosophy"/></itunes:category><itunes:image href="https://substackcdn.com/feed/podcast/165912.jpg"/><item><title><![CDATA[The Theory and the Practice]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>I talk with University of Pennsylvania’s Damon Linker about teaching American government while our political system is rapidly being dismantled. We discuss the growing gap between the theory and the practice of American government, reasons for pessimism and optimism, and whether young people think the politics of the Trump era is just normal.</p><p>You can also watch the video <a target="_blank" href="https://youtu.be/FcrHbzGhBfg">here</a>.</p><p>In light of the flagrant abuse of the FCC to shut down Donald Trump’s critics, I also recommend going back to check out a <a target="_blank" href="https://symposium.substack.com/p/distorting-the-news">previous interview with Paul Matzko </a>about how the FCC’s powers have frequently been abused. We really saw this coming and explained it all months before it happened.</p><p>Speaking of explaining what’s happening, check out my new book, <a target="_blank" href="https://amzn.to/3KaCKyZ"><em>Dictator From Day One: How Donald Trump Is Overthrowing the Constitution and How to Fight Back</em></a>, described by Damon Linker as “journalism of a very high order” and by Steven Pinker as “the best short summary of how Trump is turning the US into a dictatorship.”Get it on Amazon <a target="_blank" href="https://amzn.to/3KaCKyZ">here</a>.</p> <br/><br/>Get full access to Symposium at <a href="https://symposium.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">symposium.substack.com/subscribe</a>]]></description><link>https://symposium.substack.com/p/the-theory-and-the-practice</link><guid isPermaLink="false">substack:post:174103597</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Tracinski and Damon Linker]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2025 16:39:22 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/174103597/94043836225b073949ffe7e5f0523760.mp3" length="56248714" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Robert Tracinski and Damon Linker</itunes:author><itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>3516</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://substackcdn.com/feed/podcast/165912/post/174103597/aad39b073a94594d020097d995e75088.jpg"/></item><item><title><![CDATA[Distorting the News]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>I talk to Paul Matzko who works on technology and abundance issues for the Institute for Human Studies. We examine the history of the FCC and its broad and vague power, the abuse of “news distortion” to distort the news, why the FCC wins even when it loses in court, how each side of our political debate keeps creating the precedents that are used against it—and the “original sin” on which the FCC was founded.</p><p>This is a really in-depth discussion and will open your eyes to how serious the problem is and how much of it precedes the current administration. See also the <a target="_blank" href="https://www.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/2020-05/samples-matzko-kfai-may-4-2020.pdf">study</a> Paul co-authored a few years ago with highlights from the long history of the political abuse of the FCC. What’s happening now is objectively worse than before—but boy, have we been asking for it. </p><p>You can also watch the interview <a target="_blank" href="https://youtu.be/CeEDUwnFogY">here</a>:</p><p>We spend some time addressing the FCC’s role in Donald Trump’s shakedown of CBS, which has since moved one step forward with the <a target="_blank" href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/19/business/media/cbs-60-minutes-trump-wendy-mcmahon.html">resignation of the head of CBS News</a>, following the resignation of the main producer at “60 Minutes.”</p><p>The president of CBS News, Wendy McMahon, was forced out of her post on Monday, the latest shock wave to hit the news division amid an ongoing showdown involving President Trump, “60 Minutes” and CBS’s parent company, Paramount….</p><p>Ms. McMahon’s critics also believed that the reporting at “60 Minutes” had become politically biased, exposing the company to unnecessary criticism. And it was clear that Mr. Trump was paying close attention.</p><p>The example of “political bias” given here is “60 Minutes” accurately reporting on the lawlessness of Trump’s attacks on law firms.</p><p>Yet Trump has now successfully used the power of the FCC—along with other regulatory agencies, particularly the Federal Trade Commission—to neutralize one of the most famous and influential bastions of investigative journalism. And you can see him following up on this by <a target="_blank" href="https://thehill.com/homenews/media/5307218-trump-threatens-abc-news-qatar-jet-coverage/">threatening ABC News</a> over its coverage of his giant $400 million bribe from the Emir of Qatar.</p><p>This is a power that needs to be taken away as soon as possible, to protect us from this president, but also so no future president from either party can use it.</p> <br/><br/>Get full access to Symposium at <a href="https://symposium.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">symposium.substack.com/subscribe</a>]]></description><link>https://symposium.substack.com/p/distorting-the-news</link><guid isPermaLink="false">substack:post:164110364</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Tracinski and Paul Matzko]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2025 03:55:41 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/164110364/17229b0b7d73e1979af6db76596de28b.mp3" length="55672322" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Robert Tracinski and Paul Matzko</itunes:author><itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>3479</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://substackcdn.com/feed/podcast/165912/post/164110364/a4a67f21e467578420c22907534c144d.jpg"/></item><item><title><![CDATA[The Autocratic Executive Theory]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>I talk to Peter Shane, distinguished scholar in residence at NYU. We examine the "unitary executive theory," the long Anglo-American tradition of dividing and limiting executive power, how to have government do big things without becoming tyrannical, and how he would recommend amending the Constitution.</p><p>See his article on Unitary Executive Theory <a target="_blank" href="https://www.theunpopulist.net/p/will-trump-convince-the-supreme-court">at The UnPopulist</a>.</p><p>Or watch the interview <a target="_blank" href="https://youtu.be/hxa6UB4Lrkc">here</a>:</p><p>I don’t know what’s going on with the lighting, but in this case, the orange man is good.</p><p>The Library of Who?</p><p>One of the issues we talk about here that is not in Peter Shane’s previous article is that <em>of course</em> executive power cannot be unitary because each of the other branches of government has executive functions that must be under its own control.</p><p>The judiciary needs to build and maintain courthouses and hire bailiffs and pay the salaries of judges—and if all that is totally dependent on the president, if the judiciary has no independent executive functions, then it will have no independence as a branch of government.</p><p>Just after I recorded this interview, we got the best example: Trump trying to <a target="_blank" href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/12/us/politics/trump-library-of-congress.html">take over the Library of Congress</a>. As I put it at <em>The UnPopulist,</em> “The question of who controls the Library of Congress would seem to be answered in the name itself: It is the Library <em>of Congress</em>.” And this is not a minor issue, because the Library of Congress also serves as the research arm for the legislature. This is another case in which an independent branch of government, the legislature, must be able to have independent executive functions, or it forfeits its ability to function.</p><p>I keep hammering this, because the unitary executive has a strangely devoted following among even the sane and reasonable classical liberals—but if this theory is taken to its logical conclusion, it results in a unitary government with only one branch and one man. It is a theory of autocracy.</p><p>A Note on the Future</p><p><em>Symposium</em> has not been very active lately, for a number of reasons. First, it has been a victim of its own success, which is to say that it yielded so many opportunities for me to do things at other publications that I had less time for this one. And <em>Symposium</em> was also designed to be nonpartisan and avoid electoral politics, which is not entirely compatible with the current political environment.</p><p>More deeply, my original idea for this publication was to draw people together for conversations across the political aisle. And in the Biden administration, or in the first term of a Kamala Harris administration, that would have been a productive and appropriate undertaking.</p><p>But for reasons I have <a target="_blank" href="https://www.theunpopulist.net/p/dictator-on-day-100">detailed elsewhere</a>, we are in a fundamental crisis, a constitutional collapse that is changing our basic system of government. In these circumstances, there aren’t two sides of the aisle. There are only pro-democracy publications—and everyone else.</p><p>So this will simply be a pro-democracy publication, and the interview above is the beginning of a series of podcasts on the threats to democracy, how to revive it, the basic cultural reforms that are needed to protect it, and how we can amend the system to make it stronger.</p> <br/><br/>Get full access to Symposium at <a href="https://symposium.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">symposium.substack.com/subscribe</a>]]></description><link>https://symposium.substack.com/p/the-autocratic-executive-theory</link><guid isPermaLink="false">substack:post:163718405</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Tracinski and Peter Shane]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2025 16:07:02 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/163718405/d336833667fec29bb62c256df6df8a39.mp3" length="63359847" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Robert Tracinski and Peter Shane</itunes:author><itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>3960</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://substackcdn.com/feed/podcast/165912/post/163718405/6453bec3349d50882683217671d4aec2.jpg"/></item><item><title><![CDATA[Centers of Progress]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>I talk with Chelsea Follett, managing editor of <a target="_blank" href="http://HumanProgress.org">HumanProgress.org</a> and author of <a target="_blank" href="https://amzn.to/3zKOByz"><em>Centers of Progress: 40 Cities That Changed the World</em></a>. We talk about why cities have been the centers of progress, the conditions that make bursts of innovation possible, and examples of open and dynamic societies from Amsterdam to Dubrovnik to Mohenjo-Daro.</p><p>You can view the video of this conversation <a target="_blank" href="https://youtu.be/qC8B79xOPHE">here</a>.</p> <br/><br/>Get full access to Symposium at <a href="https://symposium.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">symposium.substack.com/subscribe</a>]]></description><link>https://symposium.substack.com/p/centers-of-progress</link><guid isPermaLink="false">substack:post:146880161</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Tracinski]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 24 Jul 2024 12:36:00 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/146880161/067a310b7aae25cbc392176c6f499068.mp3" length="42699725" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Robert Tracinski</itunes:author><itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>2669</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://substackcdn.com/feed/podcast/165912/post/146880161/301dbcba4ce2b1819b5b1e5b7fb78418.jpg"/></item><item><title><![CDATA[Conservative Cancel Culture]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>I talk with <em>New York Times</em> columnist David French about how he got canceled by his own church—see his <a target="_blank" href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/09/opinion/presbyterian-church-evangelical-canceled.html"><em>Times</em></a><a target="_blank" href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/09/opinion/presbyterian-church-evangelical-canceled.html"> column</a> about that. We also talk about the growing problem of partisanship and intolerance in conservative institutions, the crisis of American Christianity, and the reasonable “center” that we need to hold together.</p><p>You can view the video of this conversation <a target="_blank" href="https://youtu.be/DTHgoOU4cDw">here</a>.</p><p>The Mote and the Beam</p><p>We spend part of this conversation talking about various sex scandals within the church, and referring to it as a crisis. Here’s what I mean by that.</p><p>If were a more bitter and militant atheist, I could run a whole blog cataloguing one horrific example after another. David mentions <a target="_blank" href="https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2021/february/ravi-zacharias-rzim-investigation-sexual-abuse-sexting-rape.html">Ravi Zacharias</a>, but I was thinking about <a target="_blank" href="https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2024/june/paul-pressler-dead-disgrace-sbc-conservative-resurgence.html">Paul Pressler</a>, the architect of a conservative takeover of the Southern Baptist Convention who it turns out was abusing his power to make homosexual advances on young men.</p><p>I also recently saw the news about one of the Trump’s so-called “spiritual advisors,” a megachurch pastor who confessed to having an affair and being forgiven for it by the church—but now it has been revealed that his victim <a target="_blank" href="https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-adviser-pastor-robert-morris-confesses-sexual-behavior-rcna157474">was 12 years old</a>.</p><p>Remember that the right has been spinning QAnon fantasies about left-wing politics being a cover for the sexual abuse of children—yet a steady drumbeat of these stories keeps coming out about conservative Christians. Another Southern Baptist Convention conservative was<a target="_blank" href="https://churchleaders.com/news/488534-14-new-charges-brought-against-sbc-pastor-jonathan-elwing.html"> just arrested</a> “after an investigation revealed that he allegedly used cryptocurrency to purchase child sex abuse material.”</p><p>As they’ve been saying online: Somehow, it’s never a drag queen.</p><p>Then there’s the Republican State Representative in Michigan <a target="_blank" href="https://heartlandsignal.com/2024/06/20/michigan-gop-state-rep-neil-friske-arrested-after-alleged-altercation-with-a-stripper-involving-a-firearm/">arrested</a> “after alleged altercation with a stripper involving a firearm.”</p><p>Meanwhile conservative Christian are very eager to protect themselves <a target="_blank" href="https://religionnews.com/2024/05/08/grace-college-professor-ousted-after-online-commentators-flag-woke-social-media-posts/">from this</a>:</p><p>With glowing performance reviews and above-average student evaluations, by most measures Matthew Warner’s first year as a communications professor at Grace College was a triumph.</p><p>But he spent most of that first year knowing it could be his last. After four months on the job, Warner was informed by the school’s president, Drew Flamm, that the board had “come to the conclusion that we don’t think it works out to move forward,” according to a recording obtained by Religion News Service.</p><p>Warner’s termination is the latest in a string of professor terminations at Christian colleges seemingly tied to clashes over narrowing and often unspoken political and theological criteria. While Flamm didn’t specify the reasons for Warner’s dismissal, it was preceded by an online termination campaign clear about its goals. Launched by conservative influencers and Grace College stakeholders, the campaign demanded Warner’s removal due to his social media posts about LGBTQ rights, Black Lives Matter, and critiques of the GOP.</p><p>This is exactly what I mean by “conservative cancel culture.” It’s the exact process conservatives have complained about when it comes from the left, but used in their own institutions to impose their own orthodoxy.</p><p>In our conversation above, we spend a little time trading Bible verses. I think perhaps conservative Christians ought to give more thought to <a target="_blank" href="https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Matthew-7-3/">Matthew 7:3</a>: “And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?”</p> <br/><br/>Get full access to Symposium at <a href="https://symposium.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">symposium.substack.com/subscribe</a>]]></description><link>https://symposium.substack.com/p/conservative-cancel-culture</link><guid isPermaLink="false">substack:post:146174447</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Tracinski and David French]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 01 Jul 2024 21:59:31 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/146174447/b7b5b1d1f5a024da80a825d0f8468066.mp3" length="44011277" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Robert Tracinski and David French</itunes:author><itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>3668</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://substackcdn.com/feed/podcast/165912/post/146174447/97b403c11167f0b04550a8dc3fe73e8e.jpg"/></item><item><title><![CDATA[A Culture of Truth]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>I talk with Renée DiResta, formerly of the Stanford Internet Observatory and author of <a target="_blank" href="https://amzn.to/3Vx9bKe"><em>Invisible Rulers: The People Who Turn Lies into Reality</em></a>.</p><p>We talk about the <a target="_blank" href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2024/06/14/stanford-internet-observatory-disinformation-research-lawsuits-politics/">canceling</a> of the Stanford Internet Observatory, why “misinformation” isn’t the right term for the Internet rumor mill, the power of “counterspeech” and why suspending social media accounts doesn’t work, how an “army of Davids” turned into an army of volunteer propagandists—and the curious imaginary life of “<a target="_blank" href="https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/06/cia-renee-censorship-conspiracy-twitter/678688/?gift=ymYfi5fGEGbizA5HTnXX5yT5tjsZFkOaox3Hmm1uXYw">CIA Renée</a>.”You can view the video of this conversation <a target="_blank" href="https://youtu.be/WIeNusUarhE">here</a>.</p><p>A Culture of Truth</p><p>In our conversation, we discuss an <a target="_blank" href="https://www.thefp.com/p/stanford-internet-observatory-closing">article</a> by an intern at <em>The Free Press</em> who used to be an intern at the Stanford Internet Observatory, which makes some dubious and highly inaccurate claims about what goes on there. (The intern did not work at the SIO until 2022 yet claims she was tasked with suppressing the 2020 story about Hunter Biden’s laptop—an issue outside the scope of the program’s focus.)</p><p><em>The Free Press</em> seems to exist for the primary purpose of giving semi-respectable cover to far-right talking points. But this incident (and other things I’ve read at <em>The Free Press</em>) remind me of my final days at <em>The Federalist</em>, when it was already taking on the character of what others have described as an “intern blog,” in which very young and inexperienced right-wing activists pen poorly thought-out hot takes—like <a target="_blank" href="https://www.savingcountrymusic.com/the-federalist-finds-out-its-never-smart-to-come-for-dolly-parton/">denouncing the universally beloved Dolly Parton</a> as a false prophet.</p><p>The main thing is that this is done without adult supervision, with minimal and uncritical editing. I see something of the same thing at <em>The Free Press </em>in publishing claims about the Stanford Internet Observatory that fit the preferred right-wing narrative but don’t stand up to fact checking or critical scrutiny.</p><p>This underscores a point I bring up at the end of the podcast above. We need a “culture of free speech” that values pluralism and vigorous debate. But the point of a culture of free speech is that it encourages the kind of wide-ranging discussion that allows us to get at the truth. It needs to be paired with a <em>culture of truth</em>—a culture that values factual accuracy and careful reasoning.</p><p>That is precisely what is missing from the Internet rumor mill DiResta describes.</p> <br/><br/>Get full access to Symposium at <a href="https://symposium.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">symposium.substack.com/subscribe</a>]]></description><link>https://symposium.substack.com/p/a-culture-of-truth</link><guid isPermaLink="false">substack:post:145842562</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Tracinski and Renee DiResta]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 21 Jun 2024 14:46:49 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/145842562/9c18376eee3d6c208ff06d2104db6698.mp3" length="51220597" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Robert Tracinski and Renee DiResta</itunes:author><itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>3201</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://substackcdn.com/feed/podcast/165912/post/145842562/f03ac53fa522e6616e07f74935a7ec71.jpg"/></item><item><title><![CDATA[The Omnicause]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>I talk with writer Alysia Ames about her coinage of the “Omnicause,” a tendency to absorb all left-of-center causes in one giant package deal.</p><p>We also talk about the challenges for advocates of liberalism in rural areas—a closely related issue, because if you’ve got to back <em>every</em> cause in order to promote <em>any</em> cause, you’re going to encounter a lot more resistance.But first we talk about how women’s work in the household has historically been unaccounted for—in the most literal sense—and how the necessity of recognizing its value explains a lot about our current culture wars over gender, as well as the decline in fertility in the developed world</p><p>You can view the video of this conversation <a target="_blank" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29hZyxr3vCQ&#38;t=9s">here</a>.</p><p>Identity and Dogma</p><p>On a related note, I just posted at my personal newsletter an <a target="_blank" href="https://www.tracinskiletter.com/p/trans-libertarians">examination</a> of the collapse of the Libertarian Party as it heads into a fractious convention that seems likely to wreck the whole party even more.</p><p>I lay the blame in part on the longstanding philosophical agnosticism of the libertarians, who in an effort to build a big tent ended up not having the intellectual guardrails to keep their movement from being co-opted by authoritarian nationalists. To be sure, the conservative movement arguably had more philosophical substance and still didn’t succeed in getting swept up in the mass hysteria of Trumpism. But at least they were trying.</p><p>It strikes me that this and the Omnicause are two sides of the same issue. Any cultural movement or political organization has to have some core of ideas and values—while also making accommodations for reasonable disagreement and heterodoxy. It has to have an identity without having a dogma.</p><p>The Libertarians and the Omnicause represent the two different ways a movement can fail at doing this.</p><p></p><p>.</p> <br/><br/>Get full access to Symposium at <a href="https://symposium.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">symposium.substack.com/subscribe</a>]]></description><link>https://symposium.substack.com/p/the-omnicause</link><guid isPermaLink="false">substack:post:144977818</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Tracinski]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 26 May 2024 14:38:00 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/144977818/df3ac75fe5f6d6b3ef6d437bb21b7852.mp3" length="44235705" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Robert Tracinski</itunes:author><itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>2765</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://substackcdn.com/feed/podcast/165912/post/144977818/07f7eb1c1ef18d79289d46b12651d498.jpg"/></item><item><title><![CDATA[The Maximum and the Minimum]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>I talk with <a target="_blank" href="https://substack.com/profile/12224429-ruy-teixeira">Ruy Teixeira</a> of <a target="_blank" href="https://open.substack.com/pub/theliberalpatriot">The Liberal Patriot</a> about how the left and Democrats lost rural voters, and how they can try to get them back.</p><p>We talk about the history of political realignments, the parallels to the fate of Republicans in the cities, why the left should spend less time appealing to college students with purple hair and more time on older black women, and how pursing a maximalist agenda can risk losing the bare minimum.</p><p>You can view the video of this conversation <a target="_blank" href="https://youtu.be/PfKQSBmgu04">here</a>.</p> <br/><br/>Get full access to Symposium at <a href="https://symposium.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">symposium.substack.com/subscribe</a>]]></description><link>https://symposium.substack.com/p/the-maximum-and-the-minimum</link><guid isPermaLink="false">substack:post:144238636</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Tracinski and Ruy Teixeira]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 02 May 2024 13:50:20 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/144238636/631abddf9d8a0522fe35a8a68837b6f2.mp3" length="48988330" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Robert Tracinski and Ruy Teixeira</itunes:author><itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>3062</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://substackcdn.com/feed/podcast/165912/post/144238636/7731a9225e5d6657bf67793a29e5f04a.jpg"/></item><item><title><![CDATA[The New Dividing Lines]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>I talk with Damon Linker of <a target="_blank" href="https://damonlinker.substack.com">Notes from the Middle Ground</a>.</p><p>We talk about the history of conservatism, the role of "liberalism" (in the broad sense) on the right, and whether race as a political dividing line is being eclipsed by education as the new dividing line, and why that might not be entirely a good thing.</p><p>Watch the video of our conversation <a target="_blank" href="https://youtu.be/TbWMXrrmMl4">here</a>.</p><p></p><p> </p> <br/><br/>Get full access to Symposium at <a href="https://symposium.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">symposium.substack.com/subscribe</a>]]></description><link>https://symposium.substack.com/p/the-new-dividing-lines</link><guid isPermaLink="false">substack:post:137274514</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Tracinski and Damon Linker]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2023 16:21:49 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/137274514/2d8a9049622629600b481ef67a8f44dc.mp3" length="57563163" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Robert Tracinski and Damon Linker</itunes:author><itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>3598</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://substackcdn.com/feed/podcast/165912/post/137274514/1b873d069f0aabe31c72e456127b06aa.jpg"/></item><item><title><![CDATA[Central Planning on the Local Level]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>I talk with Addison Del Mastro from <a target="_blank" href="https://thedeletedscenes.substack.com">The Deleted Scenes</a>.</p><p>We talk about the hidden regulations that make our cities and suburbs the way they are, the often distorting effects of central planning applies to land use, the <a target="_blank" href="https://worksinprogress.co/issue/the-housing-theory-of-everything">Housing Theory of Everything</a>, and the recent bipartisan awakening on housing issues.</p><p>Watch the video of our conversation <a target="_blank" href="https://youtu.be/zUTLep_zBls">here</a>.</p><p></p><p></p> <br/><br/>Get full access to Symposium at <a href="https://symposium.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">symposium.substack.com/subscribe</a>]]></description><link>https://symposium.substack.com/p/central-planning-on-the-local-level</link><guid isPermaLink="false">substack:post:127188338</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Tracinski and Addison Del Mastro]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 12 Jun 2023 15:05:01 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/127188338/beaacaab7f5501c7b5fe638884937b9f.mp3" length="31213574" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Robert Tracinski and Addison Del Mastro</itunes:author><itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>2601</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://substackcdn.com/feed/podcast/165912/post/127188338/80d1c3c357a0118067efe3288b833617.jpg"/></item><item><title><![CDATA[Why Not? And Says Who?]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>I have a conversation with Brent Orrell of the American Enterprise Institute, in a back and forth on the necessity of religion as the basis for a free society. He says it’s necessary, and I don’t, and we hash out the reasons for our positions—including the big moral questions of “Why not?” and “Says who?”</p><p>Watch the video of our conversation <a target="_blank" href="https://youtu.be/5WBNJT7_Jbc">here</a>.</p><p>Please consider making a tax-deductible donation to help support Symposium.</p> <br/><br/>Get full access to Symposium at <a href="https://symposium.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">symposium.substack.com/subscribe</a>]]></description><link>https://symposium.substack.com/p/why-not-and-says-who</link><guid isPermaLink="false">substack:post:125425677</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Tracinski and Brent Orrell]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 03 Jun 2023 14:27:31 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/125425677/d4288da3f0ee2bc07de273c5792a8cf4.mp3" length="34199996" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Robert Tracinski and Brent Orrell</itunes:author><itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>2850</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://substackcdn.com/feed/podcast/165912/post/125425677/58bd9152b539d8ddafbefe7f3ed7d414.jpg"/></item><item><title><![CDATA[Baby Ninth Amendments]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><p>I talk with Anthony Sanders of the Institute for Justice about his book <a target="_blank" href="https://amzn.to/44YHON0"><em>Baby Ninth Amendments: How Americans Embraced Unenumerated Rights and Why It Matters</em></a><em>.</em></p><p>We discuss the paradox of explicit constitutional protections for "unenumerated rights," how those protections were embraced not just on the federal level but in state constitutions, why those rights have often been ignored despite being popular, and the concept of "judicial engagement" as an alternative to "judicial activism" and "judicial restraint."</p><p>Buy the book <a target="_blank" href="https://amzn.to/44YHON0">here</a>, or get a <a target="_blank" href="https://ij.org/books/baby-ninth-amendments-how-americans-embraced-unenumerated-rights-and-why-it-matters/">free download</a>.</p><p>Watch the video of our conversation <a target="_blank" href="https://youtu.be/CohynMp8_Cs">here</a>.</p><p>For more on unenumerated rights, see my analysis elsewhere of the <em>Dobbs</em> decision.</p><p>And also check out a previous Symposium podcast on unenumerated rights.</p><p>Please consider making a tax-deductible donation to help support Symposium.</p> <br/><br/>Get full access to Symposium at <a href="https://symposium.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">symposium.substack.com/subscribe</a>]]></description><link>https://symposium.substack.com/p/baby-ninth-amendments</link><guid isPermaLink="false">substack:post:121572076</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Tracinski and Anthony Sanders]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 15 May 2023 15:49:26 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/121572076/3fa197240dc7db6224fd68c8eadbccbc.mp3" length="31093494" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Robert Tracinski and Anthony Sanders</itunes:author><itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>2591</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://substackcdn.com/feed/podcast/165912/post/121572076/7a3cb281ed3e014503f1fb42fd6aac96.jpg"/></item><item><title><![CDATA[Think Philosophically, Act Locally]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>I talk with Nathan Beacom of the <a target="_blank" href="https://www.lyceummovement.org">Lyceum Movement</a>, an attempt to organize local, in-person meetings to discuss important ideas. We talk about the history of the Lyceum Movement, the difference between in-person and online discussion, the rules for keeping discussions civil and productive, and about Zoom Fatigue (on Zoom).</p><p>Watch it <a target="_blank" href="https://youtu.be/vNm0dJywGoQ">here</a>.</p><p>Speaking of online discussion and its sometimes perverse incentives, see my <a target="_blank" href="https://tracinskiletter.substack.com/p/digital-town-squares">comments elsewhere</a> on the travails of Twitter and the potential for a better alternative at Substack.</p> <br/><br/>Get full access to Symposium at <a href="https://symposium.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">symposium.substack.com/subscribe</a>]]></description><link>https://symposium.substack.com/p/think-philosophically-act-locally</link><guid isPermaLink="false">substack:post:117952742</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Tracinski]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 28 Apr 2023 21:23:41 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/117952742/0994394e821852526c8b49fdf400e123.mp3" length="20468046" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Robert Tracinski</itunes:author><itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>1279</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://substackcdn.com/feed/podcast/165912/post/117952742/3f6cd09fb0d9df83197a70a102b6c68f.jpg"/></item><item><title><![CDATA[Kicking the Dog in Iran]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>I talk with Shay Khatiri, Senior Policy Analyst at the Jewish Institute for National Security of America, <a target="_blank" href="https://www.thedailybeast.com/author/shay-khatiri">columnist</a> for The Daily Beast, and author of <a target="_blank" href="https://shaykhatiri.substack.com">The Russia-Iran File</a> on Substack.</p><p>We discuss the precipitous decline of religious belief in Iran and its lessons for America—based on his recent article, “<a target="_blank" href="https://providencemag.com/2023/02/integralism-christian-and-islamic/">Integralism, Christian and Islamic</a>”—and how “kicking the dog” is not just a <a target="_blank" href="https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/KickTheDog">trope</a> but official regime policy.</p><p>Watch it <a target="_blank" href="https://youtu.be/nwakhJ2wxvk">here</a>.</p><p>The kind of religious hypocrisy that is killing the Iranian regime is a warning for religious zealots in America, and one of them just got caught in it. A Florida state representative drafted a law targeting drag queen shows, but it turns out to also target <a target="_blank" href="https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-politics-and-policy/wife-florida-drag-ban-sponsor-host-sultry-performance-benefit-kids-cha-rcna79524">his wife’s own “sultry” fundraiser</a>.</p><p>The thing about the rule of law is that the laws have to be general and apply to everyone—not just to the people you don’t like.</p> <br/><br/>Get full access to Symposium at <a href="https://symposium.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">symposium.substack.com/subscribe</a>]]></description><link>https://symposium.substack.com/p/kicking-the-dog-in-iran</link><guid isPermaLink="false">substack:post:114589837</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Shay Khatiri and Robert Tracinski]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2023 21:27:16 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/114589837/8f16821209d3b149b311b40b5b7a4807.mp3" length="34192780" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Shay Khatiri and Robert Tracinski</itunes:author><itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>2849</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://substackcdn.com/feed/podcast/165912/post/114589837/6b45cbc6a85c2970c8d335465a69f9f6.jpg"/></item><item><title><![CDATA[Should We Bring Back the Gatekeepers?]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>I talk with Shoshana Weissman of R Street Institute and Jess Miers of the Chamber of Progress about recent Supreme Court cases challenging Section 230—the law that created the user-driven Internet we know and (mostly) love. We discuss the moderator’s dilemma, how the Wolf of Wall Street inadvertently helped create the Internet, and how attitudes toward Section 230 cut across the usual partisan lines.</p><p>Watch it <a target="_blank" href="https://youtu.be/ecEp3KqETss">here</a>.</p><p>To support podcasts like this one, please subscribe, and also consider a donation to the Symposium Foundation for the Study of Liberalism.</p> <br/><br/>Get full access to Symposium at <a href="https://symposium.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">symposium.substack.com/subscribe</a>]]></description><link>https://symposium.substack.com/p/should-we-bring-back-the-gatekeepers</link><guid isPermaLink="false">substack:post:111454587</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Tracinski]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2023 20:03:29 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/111454587/19885d17aff6c91779b6d3f775dc90d1.mp3" length="34003757" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Robert Tracinski</itunes:author><itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>2834</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://substackcdn.com/feed/podcast/165912/post/111454587/814f936b1ff4258c2ea31ccc41529894.jpg"/></item><item><title><![CDATA["We Make Men Free"]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>I talk with <em>New York Times</em> columnist David French about attacks on academic freedom and freedom of speech, “the worst way to deal with educational controversies,” the culture war evolution on the right, and the world’s best and most effective political message.</p><p>Watch it <a target="_blank" href="https://youtu.be/MrWOEcEzp_0">here</a>.</p><p>Also check out an acerbic post by Ken White, the law blogger known as Popehat, who takes on the recent shouting down of a conservative judge at Stanford Law School and makes a convincing case for “<a target="_blank" href="https://popehat.substack.com/p/hating-everyone-everywhere-all-at">Hating Everyone Everywhere All At Once</a>.” The whole thing is full of great observations and great lines, but I particularly liked this one.</p><p>Law students also persist in imagining that they invented the world. They believe they <em>discovered</em> that free speech laws and norms protect awful speech and awful people. They believe they <em>discovered</em> the plea “yes, but what you don’t understand is that <em>this </em>speech is <em>really bad.</em>” They believe that they are so self-evidently right, good, trustworthy, and noble that it’s obvious that we should let them decide who talks and who doesn’t. And they are too hubris-swollen—not too stupid, but too drunk with self-righteousness—to see that exceptions to free speech have <em>always </em>been used most harmfully against the powerless, and always will be. They’re too full of themselves to see that “let a crowd decide who is allowed to speak” is a horrific norm to promote with grotesque historic resonance. Some of them will grow out of this.</p><p>White makes the case that the conservative judge in this case is also an obnoxious culture warrior and criticizes our tendency to embrace dubious “free speech heroes.” But he reminds all of us that “A-holes have a right to speak.”</p><p>I may have Bowdlerized that a bit, but I recommend that you go <a target="_blank" href="https://popehat.substack.com/p/hating-everyone-everywhere-all-at">read the whole thing</a>.</p><p>To support podcasts like this one, please subscribe, and also consider a donation to the Symposium Foundation for the Study of Liberalism.</p> <br/><br/>Get full access to Symposium at <a href="https://symposium.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">symposium.substack.com/subscribe</a>]]></description><link>https://symposium.substack.com/p/we-want-you-to-be-less-free</link><guid isPermaLink="false">substack:post:109410578</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Tracinski]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 20 Mar 2023 16:24:18 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/109410578/3d4b238e2cc79ec8f51168c1ed5ca94f.mp3" length="42696578" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Robert Tracinski</itunes:author><itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>3558</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://substackcdn.com/feed/podcast/165912/post/109410578/3a573da78e515ef32d046ef4f3977d88.jpg"/></item><item><title><![CDATA[The Orban Model]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>I talk with David Baer and Dalibor Rohac about Viktor Orban’s authoritarian system in Hungary, its use as a model for American conservatives, and how the system has actually worked out for Hungary.</p><p>Watch it <a target="_blank" href="https://youtu.be/kIahkVBRIx4">here</a>.</p><p>For more on how the American right has embraced Orban, see a <a target="_blank" href="https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/19/magazine/viktor-orban-rod-dreher.html">good overview</a> in the <em>New York Times</em>. See also a <a target="_blank" href="https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/08/viktor-orban-american-conservatism-admiration/671205/">history</a> of conservative support for illiberal regimes in <em>The Atlantic</em>. This second piece is a bit one-sided and superficial, but it hammers home its point. An occupational hazard of the political activist is the temptation to wish for the power to wipe away all opposition and impose one’s own vision of the ideal society.</p><p>This leads some people to seek out places where this has supposedly been done, to uphold them as models, to defend them as superior to our own society, and to attempt to imitate the new model. The left has had its unhealthy fascinations with tyranny, from Stalin’s Russia to Chavez’s Venezuela, and so has the right.</p><p>I’m working on a forthcoming article of my own that defines the version of the Orban model that has filtered through to the American right, as reflected in recent attempts to put that model into practice. The discussion above was part of my research for that article. But one of the themes that emerges from it is the extent to which events elsewhere in the world tend to be distorted to fit into our own domestic political obsessions.</p><p>The Orban model as practiced by Orban is somewhat different from the version being promoted in America—and fortunately, it will be much harder to put in practice here in a larger, better informed, and more diverse nation.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p> <br/><br/>Get full access to Symposium at <a href="https://symposium.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">symposium.substack.com/subscribe</a>]]></description><link>https://symposium.substack.com/p/the-orban-model</link><guid isPermaLink="false">substack:post:107431454</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Tracinski]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2023 14:09:00 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/107431454/7b473c20dd443c41ae5709afe6f5cee2.mp3" length="40246780" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Robert Tracinski</itunes:author><itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>3354</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://substackcdn.com/feed/podcast/165912/post/107431454/f11c51169ffda43856ccbd7471906492.jpg"/></item><item><title><![CDATA[Private Initiative and State Capacity]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>I talk with Jaroslav Romanchuk about the Russian invasion of Ukraine, the causes of corruption, why Ukraine is going to need limited government, and the bad economic advice Ukraine keeps getting from the West.</p><p>Watch it <a target="_blank" href="https://youtu.be/NNftx5v0PLw">here</a>.</p><p>This is a follow-up on our <a target="_blank" href="https://symposium.substack.com/p/playing-hockey-with-vladimir-putin#details">previous conversation</a> just prior to the Russian invasion, but this time we focus more on the prospective question of how Ukraine’s wartime economy will work and how it will rebuild after the war.</p><p>The issue I think is most important for people outside Ukraine to grasp is the under-appreciated connection between Big Government and corruption—the way that corruption is fueled by money and economic activity having to move through state institutions, especially state institutions warped by the Soviet legacy and decades of Russian influence. This led to a discussion of the problem of “state capacity,” i.e., the ability of a government to effectively implement its policies. Small-government types like us tend not to talk about “state capacity” because we don’t want the state to do very much. But this is another reason why Western aid and advice often goes wrong, because it assumes “state capacity”—a functioning and honest bureaucracy—that doesn’t exist.</p><p>For more coverage on Ukraine and its future, see my conversation last year with <a target="_blank" href="https://symposium.substack.com/p/is-ukraine-another-america#details">Ukrainian philosopher Volodymyr Yermolenko</a>.</p><p>To support discussions like this one, please consider a donation to the Symposium Foundation for the Study of Liberalism.</p> <br/><br/>Get full access to Symposium at <a href="https://symposium.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">symposium.substack.com/subscribe</a>]]></description><link>https://symposium.substack.com/p/romanchuk-on-ukraine</link><guid isPermaLink="false">substack:post:106813716</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Tracinski]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 07 Mar 2023 14:05:12 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/106813716/5dcce0e9aac248d58131383716d081cf.mp3" length="38244639" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Robert Tracinski</itunes:author><itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>3187</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://substackcdn.com/feed/podcast/165912/post/106813716/937293c53614410cb756a243e243780f.jpg"/></item><item><title><![CDATA[The Death Toll of Authoritarianism]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><p>I talk with Claire Berlinski of <a target="_blank" href="https://claireberlinski.substack.com/about">The Cosmopolitan Globalist</a> about the earthquakes in Turkey and Syria, why the press should not cover this as a mere natural disaster, and the worst thing that Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has ever done.</p><p>Watch it <a target="_blank" href="https://youtu.be/82ERuL8D8tU">here</a>:</p><p>The earthquakes are a lesson in the hollow promise of a strongman who will end the “deep state,” drain the swamp of corruption, and fight against the “fake news” of the press—and what he actually does once he gets all that power. We are used to hearing about the death tolls of totalitarian regimes. But does this earthquake show us the death toll of authoritarianism?</p><p>Claire also passed along some essential reading, especially her <a target="_blank" href="https://www.berlinski.com/2016/09/14/turkey-must-act-to-avert-an-earthquake-tragedy/">prescient warning</a> about Turkish building practices and one about the correlation between earthquake deaths and corruption and the prospect of <a target="_blank" href="https://www.city-journal.org/html/1-million-dead-30-seconds-13396.html">one million dead in 30 seconds</a>.</p><p>Also, see <a target="_blank" href="https://claireberlinski.substack.com/p/why-cant-we-learn#&#167;the-freight-train">here</a> for a written version of a lot of the material we cover in our conversation. In chatting after the interview, Claire also made me aware of <a target="_blank" href="https://twitter.com/LiselHintz/status/1624370863335256065">this story</a> of an honest man who saved a lot of lives.</p><p>Finally, here is the <a target="_blank" href="https://crowdfunding.copalana.org/mycampaign/1092/esin-efe/temporary-shelters-in-sheikh-bahar-and-gaziantep">link</a> she mentioned for those who want to support relief efforts in Syria that will actually reach the people they’re intended to help.</p><p></p> <br/><br/>Get full access to Symposium at <a href="https://symposium.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">symposium.substack.com/subscribe</a>]]></description><link>https://symposium.substack.com/p/the-death-toll-of-authoritarianism</link><guid isPermaLink="false">substack:post:102869108</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Tracinski]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2023 19:52:23 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/102869108/bf49f5108bcd5430f6b36ea4f2c70674.mp3" length="25436314" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Robert Tracinski</itunes:author><itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>2120</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://substackcdn.com/feed/podcast/165912/post/102869108/cf5b1f529451d840fd6050f256823106.jpg"/></item><item><title><![CDATA[The Lost World]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Rob Tracinski talks to Tim Sandefur, author of the new book, <a target="_blank" href="https://amzn.to/3JRDPth"><em>Freedom’s Furies: How Isabel Paterson, Rose Wilder Lane, and Ayn Rand Found Liberty in an Age of Darkness</em></a>.</p><p>We discuss the long friendship between these three women in the years leading up to the Depression, the New Deal, and World War II, and how they all published books in 1943 that led them to be hailed as the “three furies” of the modern liberty movement. Most of all, we talk about the surprisingly “countercultural” aspect of their advocacy of freedom as a rebellion against conformity, contrasted against the small-town conformism and authoritarianism of many of their era’s “progressives.”</p><p>I refer to this as a “lost world” that Tim has uncovered in his book: a cultural context in which the prevailing political coalitions and their cultural affiliations are intriguingly different from what we expect today. </p><p>Watch the video <a target="_blank" href="https://youtu.be/cJP863h0hvg">here</a>.</p> <br/><br/>Get full access to Symposium at <a href="https://symposium.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">symposium.substack.com/subscribe</a>]]></description><link>https://symposium.substack.com/p/the-lost-world</link><guid isPermaLink="false">substack:post:101665357</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Tracinski]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2023 19:46:10 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/101665357/f34eef7695617ae33476bdd933797faf.mp3" length="29496698" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Robert Tracinski</itunes:author><itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>2458</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://substackcdn.com/feed/podcast/165912/post/101665357/118a5bd9dda5a17071de1062b34d02e0.jpg"/></item><item><title><![CDATA[The View from the Top of the Pyramid]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Rob Tracinski talks to Marian Tupy of the Cato Institute and <a target="_blank" href="http://humanprogress.org/">HumanProgress.org</a>, and coauthor of the new book <a target="_blank" href="https://amzn.to/3r22VLo"><em>Superabundance</em></a>.</p><p>We discuss the reality of progress, why people refuse to accept it, the curious correlation of improvements to human life accompanied by increasingly apocalyptic films, Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs as an explanation for our pessimism, and the effect that recognition of progress would have on our public debate.</p><p>Watch the video <a target="_blank" href="https://youtu.be/vS9ItPiYslI">here</a>.</p> <br/><br/>Get full access to Symposium at <a href="https://symposium.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">symposium.substack.com/subscribe</a>]]></description><link>https://symposium.substack.com/p/the-view-from-the-top-of-the-pyramid</link><guid isPermaLink="false">substack:post:74527264</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Tracinski]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2022 05:58:14 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/74527264/e6d95e0fb1c0793cfb39e22fad095c02.mp3" length="68399775" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Robert Tracinski</itunes:author><itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>2850</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://substackcdn.com/feed/podcast/165912/post/74527264/1d72d68da8bed34284dde1f41626ab8d.jpg"/></item><item><title><![CDATA[Fighting into Each Others' Coats]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Rob Tracinski talks to Tim Sandefur of the Goldwater Institute about the legal doctrine of “substantive due process,” its rejection by Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, and how conservatives adopted an anti-rights constitutional interpretation pioneered by progressives.</p><p>Read Sandefur's <a target="_blank" href="https://theunpopulist.substack.com/p/clarence-thomas-would-jettison-part">recent article</a> about this at The Unpopulist, and see also his book <a target="_blank" href="https://amzn.to/3S2GCB1"><em>The Conscience of the Constitution</em></a>.</p><p>Watch the video <a target="_blank" href="https://youtu.be/HSd22w4D1ZI">here</a>.</p> <br/><br/>Get full access to Symposium at <a href="https://symposium.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">symposium.substack.com/subscribe</a>]]></description><link>https://symposium.substack.com/p/fighting-into-each-others-coats</link><guid isPermaLink="false">substack:post:73097020</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Tracinski]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2022 15:02:15 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/73097020/054c582142820ae17f571bc59f1bf196.mp3" length="50277488" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Robert Tracinski</itunes:author><itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>2095</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://substackcdn.com/feed/podcast/165912/post/73097020/5990be2d0b890a52275fdfcec08c7147.jpg"/></item><item><title><![CDATA[21st Century Samizdat]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Rob Tracinski talks to Yevgeny Simkin of Samizdat Online, <a target="_blank" href="https://samizdatonline.org">https://samizdatonline.org</a>, an attempt to help readers evade Internet controls in dictatorships. Our conversation includes the history of “samizdat” underground publication, how the flow of contraband information has changed in the 21st Century, and why dictators are so afraid of it.</p><p>Watch the video <a target="_blank" href="https://youtu.be/Xyr3sNvcrZQ">here</a>.</p> <br/><br/>Get full access to Symposium at <a href="https://symposium.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">symposium.substack.com/subscribe</a>]]></description><link>https://symposium.substack.com/p/21st-century-samizdat</link><guid isPermaLink="false">substack:post:72110974</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Tracinski]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2022 13:55:30 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/72110974/aa64bcee116c27edfb786cec508fcb05.mp3" length="47868792" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Robert Tracinski</itunes:author><itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>1995</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://substackcdn.com/feed/podcast/165912/post/72110974/9741008c42413602cff1885540a48748.jpg"/></item><item><title><![CDATA[The Decline and Fall of the Libertarian Party]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Rob Tracinski talks to the Cato Institute's Andy Craig about the alt-right takeover of the Libertarian Party, the hole left by the absence of a third political alternative, and how the Electoral Count Reform Act could save us from another crisis and vindicate the effectiveness of <a target="_blank" href="https://www.slowboring.com/p/the-rise-and-importance-of-secret">Secret Congress</a>. But for God’s sake, don’t tell anyone.</p><p>Watch the video <a target="_blank" href="https://youtu.be/-ZiGMHEs_OI">here</a>.</p> <br/><br/>Get full access to Symposium at <a href="https://symposium.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">symposium.substack.com/subscribe</a>]]></description><link>https://symposium.substack.com/p/the-decline-and-fall-of-the-libertarian</link><guid isPermaLink="false">substack:post:71206215</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Tracinski]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2022 22:22:17 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/71206215/6c9b9291fe452c6950eb35d9d741d800.mp3" length="51302530" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Robert Tracinski</itunes:author><itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>2138</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://substackcdn.com/feed/podcast/165912/post/71206215/01dc50b3d852c1fb75cb0b5fd9a3029f.jpg"/></item><item><title><![CDATA[Luddite Populism]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Rob Tracinski talks to Louis Anslow, creator and curator of the <a target="_blank" href="https://pessimistsarchive.substack.com">Pessimists Archive</a>, which chronicles the long history of techno-pessimism, about the “science folklore” of the “Black Mirror fallacy” and the scarcity bias that induces a false nostalgia for the past.</p><p>We also talk about how this feeds illiberalism by encouraging “Luddite populism” on both the left and the right.</p><p>Watch the video <a target="_blank" href="https://youtu.be/bV-9g5aHO7w">here</a>.</p> <br/><br/>Get full access to Symposium at <a href="https://symposium.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">symposium.substack.com/subscribe</a>]]></description><link>https://symposium.substack.com/p/luddite-populism</link><guid isPermaLink="false">substack:post:70074445</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Tracinski]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2022 14:36:03 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/70074445/feb9ff08b1733ebd237e1c6356bffccc.mp3" length="52912523" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Robert Tracinski</itunes:author><itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>2205</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://substackcdn.com/feed/podcast/165912/post/70074445/b70e2ce35dc55e58449a72e2a53ffd76.jpg"/></item><item><title><![CDATA[Schrödinger's Immigrant]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Rob Tracinski talks to Alex Nowrasteh, immigration expert and director of economic and social policy studies at the Cato Institute.</p><p>We talk about the real facts about immigration, the phenomenon of “Schrödinger's Immigrant” (who is and isn’t at the same time), and why ethno-nationalism is a foreign import. </p><p>Watch the video <a target="_blank" href="https://youtu.be/I8J4douYjM0">here</a>.</p><p>This last observation is particularly relevant given Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán’s <a target="_blank" href="https://www.thebulwark.com/do-american-national-conservatives-condone-orbans-white-nationalism/">recent comments</a> about “race mixing,” which cast a clearer and colder light on his anti-immigration policies and show us the dark side of the current “national conservative” embrace of ethno-nationalism.</p><p>Orbán, it should be noted, still seems welcome among American conservatives, and he has received an <a target="_blank" href="https://www.theamericanconservative.com/race-nation-and-modern-times/">enlightening defense</a> from his chief American booster, Rod Dreher. The central argument is that rural Hungarians (and rural Americans) have a right to demand a country in which there is no change ever to any significant aspect of life. And I guess that includes change such as the presence of immigrants, particularly those with different skin tones.</p><p>This raises an interesting question: Does conservatism have a racism problem?</p><p>Many conservatives would deny it, and I have frequently defended friends on the right from lazy and opportunistic accusations of bigotry, which for a long time have been a favorite way to appear to win an argument without all the bother of coming up with evidence or new ideas.</p><p>And yet. Conservatism, not just as an ideology but as a mindset—conservatism in the temperamental sense of resistance to change—seems to have a certain temptation toward racism built into it. And if you then build the movement’s ideology, not on the basis of liberty and liberalism, but on the basis of standing athwart history yelling “stop," then you have drawn that element into the foundation of your thinking.</p><p>This is worth exploring in more depth at a future time. In this discussion, Alex and I end by going the other direction: celebrating change by discussing all of the growth and vitality that immigrants bring to American society and have always brought, and how we are unnecessarily passing up all these benefits when we restrict them.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p> <br/><br/>Get full access to Symposium at <a href="https://symposium.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">symposium.substack.com/subscribe</a>]]></description><link>https://symposium.substack.com/p/schrodingers-immigrant</link><guid isPermaLink="false">substack:post:67176512</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Tracinski]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2022 21:14:06 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/67176512/21334753bf2e9c3902c82bd94a9cde90.mp3" length="73602108" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Robert Tracinski</itunes:author><itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>3067</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://substackcdn.com/feed/podcast/165912/post/67176512/ea7909199460a22ca1a2d25d62c0382f.jpg"/></item><item><title><![CDATA[Paleo and Neo]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>The Libertarian Party—the formally organized party, rather than libertarianism as an intellectual movement—has long been somewhat befuddled and ineffectual.</p><p>It is very hard to get a third party off the ground in the American system, and after trying for decades, the Libertarian Party suffered the fate of many small movements. The best, most serious, most talented advocates of limited government and classical liberalism tend to set their sights on breaking into the mainstream, leaving the small party to be taken over by cranks and weirdos. If you think I’m being unkind, you should look up some <a target="_blank" href="https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/libertarian-party-chairman-hopeful-strips-stage-c-span-n582501">footage</a> from old Libertarian Party conventions.</p><p>This year, however, the Libertarian Party suffered a worse fate. A party of harmless oddballs was taken over by malevolent oddballs: the “alt-right” racists and authoritarians of the so-called Mises Caucus. (I say “so-called” because they have unjustly appropriated the name of a serious intellectual, the Austrian School economist Ludwig von Mises.)</p><p>Here’s the <a target="_blank" href="https://reason.com/2022/05/29/mises-caucus-takes-control-of-libertarian-party/">report</a> on this in <em>Reason</em>, the flagship libertarian magazine.</p><p>A four-year battle for <a target="_blank" href="https://reason.com/2018/07/04/libertarian-party-rebuffs-mises-uprising/">control</a> of the Libertarian Party ended Saturday in Reno with a victory for the Mises Caucus at the party's national convention. The faction's chosen candidate for chair of the party's national committee, <a target="_blank" href="https://angelamcardle.com/">Angela McArdle</a>, won on the first round of balloting with 692 votes—more than 69 percent of the voting delegates….</p><p>The caucus's <a target="_blank" href="https://lpmisescaucus.com/platform/?fbclid=IwAR0EDSzPn8lltUKWPYO4sUf8sx8AenBPcIdl6QvHyd9T-5BoNLvXufMV9u0">official platform</a> is plumb-line libertarian, but its foes say that too many Mises Caucus members and fans downplay libertarian positions that might offend the right, are intentionally obnoxious and bullying, and are often racist….</p><p>Two former significant donors to the LP, Kyle Varner and Michael Chastain, both with decadeslong history in the party, did say in phone interviews that the Mises turn, which they see as importing a level of racist edgelording they have no taste for, has made them stop funding LP candidates…. Varner and Chastain see a distinctly right-wing culture and policy bent from the Mises faction. The caucus…wants to eliminate from the LP's platform a statement that "we condemn bigotry as irrational and repugnant."…</p><p>The Mises-run party will continue to try to run local candidates especially, he said, with a preferred strategy of straight-up localist nullification of federal laws. "Decentralization" is a mantra of Heise's, and the caucus's Twitter feed has <a target="_blank" href="https://twitter.com/LPMisesCaucus/status/1522339642212769798">openly been against</a> the long-held legal principle that the 14th Amendment means that states and localities also have to obey the federal Bill of Rights.</p><p>Removing a disavowal of bigotry and opposing the 14th Amendment are the milder symptoms. The Southern Poverty Law Center has <a target="_blank" href="https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2022/05/25/mises-caucus-could-it-sway-libertarian-party-hard-right">the goods</a> on the connections between the Mises Caucus’s expected Libertarian Party candidate for president, comedian Dave Smith, and a who’s who of white nationalism: Nick Fuentes, Chris Cantwell, Richard Spencer, and Michelle Malkin.</p><p>This is a return to the old “paleolibertarian” strategy once advocated by Murray Rothbard and Lew Rockwell (and accepted for a while by former Libertarian Party presidential candidate Ron Paul) of forming an alliance between libertarians and Pat Buchanan-style “paleoconservatives.” Now that Buchanan’s paleoconservatism has come roaring back under Donald Trump, the paleolibertarians are also taking over.</p><p>In response to that, Jeremiah Johnson, one of the organizers of a resurgent “neoliberal” movement, published a <a target="_blank" href="https://www.liberalcurrents.com/to-reject-bigotry-libertarians-should-become-neoliberals/">sales pitch</a> to disaffected libertarians to join his left-of center movement.</p><p>Libertarians and neoliberals agree on some of the most <a target="_blank" href="https://exponents.substack.com/p/what-neoliberals-believe?s=r">important issues</a> facing the world today. You’ll find no greater defenders of the value of <a target="_blank" href="https://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog.php?isbn=9780674919334">free trade</a> and <a target="_blank" href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/636499/one-billion-americans-by-matthew-yglesias/">immigration</a> than neoliberals. Neoliberals are intensely <a target="_blank" href="https://www.rstreet.org/issue/occupational-licensing/">skeptical of occupational licensing</a> regimes that hamper poor people’s ability to make a living. Neoliberals are strident YIMBYs who want more development and <a target="_blank" href="https://www.brookings.edu/book/fixer-upper/">more housing</a> free from local regulations. Neoliberals are <a target="_blank" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_Defense_of_Global_Capitalism">proud capitalists</a> who believe in the power of (mostly) free markets. Neoliberals want to end the drug war and reform America’s overly punitive criminal justice system. </p><p>And neoliberals are invested in the <a target="_blank" href="https://exponents.substack.com/p/what-neoliberals-believe-part-2?s=r">core philosophical ideals</a> of liberalism. They stand for liberal democracy and the classical liberal values like equality before the law, freedom of speech, freedom of religion, etc. They reject all forms of racism, sexism, and bigotry, and notably there’s no internal struggle required for neoliberals to proudly and publicly declare that. The modern neoliberal movement is explicitly against the rising tide of illiberalism that characterizes so much of today’s politics. If you’re a principled libertarian, there is a huge amount to like about neoliberalism….</p><p>Libertarians who care about rejecting the Mises Caucus’s blatant bigotry, who want to stay true to the classical liberal values, and who want to advance liberty in practical and meaningful ways—come join the neoliberals.</p><p>This is similar in some ways to the kind of “neo-classical liberalism” Symposium has been exploring, so of course I had to ask Johnson to come onto the podcast. We had a wide-ranging discussion talking about the differences and potential areas of cooperation between classical liberals and explaining why you might have seen the Neoliberalism symbol 🌐 so often these days.</p><p>See the video <a target="_blank" href="https://youtu.be/hp76Csw3ScM">here</a>.</p><p>No, I’m not personally going to start calling myself a “neoliberal” or start putting 🌐 into my Twitter profile. But I am very open to the idea of seeking out neoliberals as allies and working with them on the big issues where we agree.</p> <br/><br/>Get full access to Symposium at <a href="https://symposium.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">symposium.substack.com/subscribe</a>]]></description><link>https://symposium.substack.com/p/paleo-and-neo</link><guid isPermaLink="false">substack:post:58955820</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Tracinski]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2022 14:14:00 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/58955820/4332333914499008bbe97bacc6e44b64.mp3" length="33333333" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Robert Tracinski</itunes:author><itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>3014</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://substackcdn.com/feed/podcast/165912/post/58955820/f488a12ad8277725a9a1e03422e72b78.jpg"/></item><item><title><![CDATA[Cossacks and Cowboys]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Rob Tracinski talks to Volodymyr Yermolenko, philosopher and chief editor of <a target="_blank" href="https://ukraineworld.org/">UkraineWorld</a>, about the war in Ukraine, but also about the values for which Ukraine is fighting and the deep historical roots of liberalism in Ukraine.</p><p>We talk about the parallels between America and Ukraine, which sees itself as “another America” or a “European America”—a “Wild East” settled by “free warriors of the steppe,” to match our Wild West. Think of it as Cossacks and cowboys.</p><p>The deepest philosophical parallel is the history of the Cossacks and their “contractual idea of politics,” in which power is defined by an agreement between the ruler and the ruled—as opposed to Russia’s long history of imperialist absolutism.</p><p>Watch the video <a target="_blank" href="https://youtu.be/v7BwXmB1744">here</a>.</p> <br/><br/>Get full access to Symposium at <a href="https://symposium.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">symposium.substack.com/subscribe</a>]]></description><link>https://symposium.substack.com/p/is-ukraine-another-america</link><guid isPermaLink="false">substack:post:58945984</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Tracinski]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2022 14:12:00 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/58945984/3a4041ac4daa4244d023adfdc478c86e.mp3" length="33333333" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Robert Tracinski</itunes:author><itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>2527</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://substackcdn.com/feed/podcast/165912/post/58945984/a8fb4ec55a3a10e97c8f3069abc9343a.jpg"/></item><item><title><![CDATA[18th-Century Infallibility Theory]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>The leaked draft of a forthcoming Supreme Court ruling in the abortion case <em>Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization</em> raises questions about the “unenumerated rights” protected in the Ninth Amendment.</p><p>I discussed this recently with David French and Ilya Shapiro, talking about why the Constitution protects unenumerated rights and how we would tell what those rights are. How do we avoid having such determinations be a purely subjective projection of current ideological fads—versus what David calls “18th Century Infallibility Theory,” in which whatever laws existed when the Constitution was ratified are considered the final word?</p><p>And does the <em>Dobbs</em> opinion represent an overly restrictive view of unenumerated rights?</p><p>See the video <a target="_blank" href="https://youtu.be/IY3vFX07diA">here</a>.</p><p>The Wit of the Staircase</p><p>There is a reference in this podcast to the “wit of the staircase,” that moment when you suddenly think of the perfect thing to say, just as you have left the party and are on your way down the stairs. Well, it was just after we recorded this discussion that I came across a <a target="_blank" href="https://balkin.blogspot.com/2022/06/rewriting-rule-for-rights.html">blog post</a> from Joseph Blass, a law professor at Northwestern and quite possibly the very last person still using Blogger. Blass perfectly captures my central concern about the <em>Dobbs</em> opinion’s approach to unenumerated rights. Blass notices a substitution of “and” for “or” in Justice Alito’s test for unenumerated rights.</p><p>Justice Ginsburg writes that a right is protected under the Constitution’s Due Process Clause “if it is fundamental to our scheme of ordered liberty, <strong>or</strong> deeply rooted in this Nation’s history and tradition” (internal quotations omitted). But Justice Alito now writes: “Justice Ginsburg’s opinion for the Court in <em>Timbs </em>[concluded] that the Eighth Amendment’s protection against excessive fines is ‘fundamental to our scheme of ordered liberty’ <strong>and</strong> ‘deeply rooted in this Nation’s history and tradition.’” See the difference? Justice Alito slices Justice Ginsburg’s statement of the test in <em>Timbs </em>in half around the word “or,” sandwiching her quoted statements of the branches around a new “and”. The opinion states the test four separate times, each time using “and” to connect the two branches. But up until this draft opinion the test has been disjunctive: in <em>McDonald</em>, Justice Alito states the test much as Justice Ginsburg did in <em>Timbs</em>, using “or.” And so does Chief Justice Rehnquist in <em>Glucksberg</em>, the case that originated the test by drawing together its branches from prior Due Process precedents. </p><p>In effect, under the original standard described in <em>Glucksberg</em>, there are two tests for an unenumerated right: one is that it be “deeply rooted in history and tradition”; the other is that it be “implicit in the concept of ordered liberty.” <em>Either</em> test would be enough, which is to say that a right does not have to be recognized in tradition in order to be considered implicit in the concept of liberty. That’s a good thing, in my view, because there are many aspects of liberty that have not always been recognized in tradition, and this is part of the reason those rights end up being litigated later on at the Supreme Court.</p><p>What Blass is arguing—and what I think the <em>Dobbs</em> opinion clearly implies—is that Alito has collapsed those two tests into one test. A right will only be recognized as implicit in liberty if it is <em>also</em> recognized in tradition. It replaces liberty as a standard with tradition as a standard, as I have argued <a target="_blank" href="https://tracinskiletter.substack.com/p/the-originalism-bait-and-switch?s=w">elsewhere</a>.</p><p>Contrary to what David and Ilya are saying here, that would greatly constrict the Supreme Court’s future protection of unenumerated rights. No, I don’t think the Supreme Court is going to overturn other similar cases immediately. As they point out, Justice Alito explicitly forecloses a challenged to <em>Lawrence v. Texas</em> or <em>Loving v. Virginia</em>. But then again, the current opinion cites a ruling from 30 years ago, so precedents matter. And who knows what new case will arise that we don’t even know about yet, in which the justices will be called upon to protect a right that is clearly implicit in the concept of liberty but not sufficiently grounded in tradition?</p><p>We ended this podcast with David French saying that a ban an abortion expands rights by recognizing the right to life of the unborn. But this implies an affirmation that a fetus at the very earliest stages of pregnancy is a separate being with rights. Ilya Shapiro thinks this is a question that can’t be answered by the courts and therefore should be left to the states. But I think for precisely the reason David raises, it <em>has</em> to be answered by the courts.</p><p>That just goes to show the kind of tough question that the Constitution’s protection of unenumerated rights requires us to face.</p> <br/><br/>Get full access to Symposium at <a href="https://symposium.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">symposium.substack.com/subscribe</a>]]></description><link>https://symposium.substack.com/p/18th-century-infallibility-theory</link><guid isPermaLink="false">substack:post:58743337</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Tracinski]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2022 19:42:00 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/58743337/50c371242b7c0d6288ce59f2d8d2cc2c.mp3" length="33333333" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Robert Tracinski</itunes:author><itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>3211</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://substackcdn.com/feed/podcast/165912/post/58743337/1a8132b9545745a7c078dfc7f31b00e7.jpg"/></item><item><title><![CDATA[The Progress Mindset]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Rob Tracinski talks to Caleb Watney of the <a target="_blank" href="https://progress.institute">Institute for Progress</a>. We talk about how our political debate would be different if we recognized the reality of progress, the rise of the “inventing mindset,” the “veto points” that prevent growth and progress, the importance of <a target="_blank" href="https://www.slowboring.com/p/the-rise-and-importance-of-secret?s=r">Secret Congress,</a> and the possibility of new political alignments.</p><p>You can also watch this on <a target="_blank" href="https://youtu.be/QtqaKv1sdLg">video</a>.</p> <br/><br/>Get full access to Symposium at <a href="https://symposium.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">symposium.substack.com/subscribe</a>]]></description><link>https://symposium.substack.com/p/the-progress-mindset</link><guid isPermaLink="false">substack:post:52543393</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Tracinski]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2022 17:25:45 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/52543393/7867b8200b9a5796bcffa658d18f628a.mp3" length="33333333" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Robert Tracinski</itunes:author><itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>3176</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://substackcdn.com/feed/podcast/165912/post/52543393/e82d1af33479ecb1e7c4add164bd8f56.jpg"/></item><item><title><![CDATA[Flying on Instruments]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Rob Tracinski talks to Steven Pinker about his new book, <a target="_blank" href="https://www.amazon.com/Rationality-What-Seems-Scarce-Matters-ebook/dp/B08WK3JNLT/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3CDB6BQNX7RMT&#38;amp;keywords=rationality+steven+pinker&#38;amp;qid=1648831159&#38;amp;sprefix=rationality%252Caps%252C212&#38;amp;sr=8-1&#38;_encoding=UTF8&#38;tag=tracinskilett-20&#38;linkCode=ur2&#38;linkId=7df907c602ed69a5fd267546de8336ef&#38;camp=1789&#38;creative=9325"><em>Rationality: What It Is, Why It Seems Scarce, Why It Matters</em></a>. We talk about how using reason is like flying on instruments, why reason comes more naturally than it might seem, and why we can’t blame all our problems on the cavemen.</p><p>You can also watch this on video <a target="_blank" href="https://youtu.be/pCwu6OuLMWI">here</a>.</p> <br/><br/>Get full access to Symposium at <a href="https://symposium.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">symposium.substack.com/subscribe</a>]]></description><link>https://symposium.substack.com/p/flying-on-instruments</link><guid isPermaLink="false">substack:post:51444385</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Tracinski]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 02 Apr 2022 22:01:42 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/51444385/d6c4757d3517f447296327f5832bb725.mp3" length="33333333" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Robert Tracinski</itunes:author><itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>2898</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://substackcdn.com/feed/podcast/165912/post/51444385/b8e73e027b1e93a240572c1b105314ee.jpg"/></item><item><title><![CDATA[The Paradox of the "Liberal Leviathan"]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Rob Tracinski talks to Shay Khatiri, a policy associate at the Renew Democracy Initiative, about the need for America to be a “Liberal Leviathan,” particularly in the context of Russia’s threats against Ukraine.</p><p>See Shay's article in Symposium <a target="_blank" href="https://symposium.substack.com/p/the-case-for-the-liberal-leviathan?utm_source=url">here</a>.</p><p>You can also watch this on video <a target="_blank" href="https://youtu.be/YEnnwTMkl8U">here</a>.</p> <br/><br/>Get full access to Symposium at <a href="https://symposium.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">symposium.substack.com/subscribe</a>]]></description><link>https://symposium.substack.com/p/the-paradox-of-the-liberal-leviathan</link><guid isPermaLink="false">substack:post:49116749</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Tracinski]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 21 Feb 2022 15:06:14 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/49116749/3cd444661eff065f25fe77060e341ec4.mp3" length="33333333" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Robert Tracinski</itunes:author><itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>3305</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://substackcdn.com/feed/podcast/165912/post/49116749/ef9601aba5640adb03bc3931634f4b22.jpg"/></item><item><title><![CDATA[Playing Hockey with Vladimir Putin]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>I talk with Jaroslav Romanchuk, a Belarusian dissident now in Kyiv, about the threat of a Russian invasion of Ukraine.</p><p>You can also watch it on video here:</p><p>I found Jaroslav’s perspective interesting because he blames US officials for overstating the risk of a Russian invasion in order to panic Ukraine into signing a bad diplomatic deal giving away its Eastern provinces. This seems to be the view held by Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky as well. Romanchuk also spells out the long-term Ukrainian strategy, which is to pursue an economic growth and dynamism that will eventually make it clearly a better alternative to the Putin regime. </p><p>Their assumption is that Putin doesn’t really have enough troops to take and hold Ukraine, not without disastrous casualties, so he is staging a giant military bluff intended either to panic Ukraine into a deal or to keep it mired in a “frozen conflict” that prevents the stability, investment, and growth that would make Ukraine a threat to Russia.</p><p>Thinking about this, I remembered a recent story about a <a target="_blank" href="https://www.businessinsider.com/putin-lukashenko-play-hockey-after-russia-belarus-diplomatic-talks-2021-12">hockey game</a> with Vladimir Putin and Belarusian dictator Alexander Lukashenko, in which Putin scored an astounding seven goals and Lukashenko two—against famous Russian professional players. This is, of course, a ridiculous PR stunt meant to create a flattering image of Putin.</p><p>You could interpret that story in two ways. On the one hand, you could view it as evidence that Putin is a blustering coward who won’t take on any contest that isn’t already rigged in his favor—making an actual invasion of Ukraine too big of a gamble. Or you could wonder whether Putin has spent so long surrounded with sycophants and yes-men who assure him that he will always be a winner that he will actually believe there is no risk and he can get away with anything.</p><p>In the next few weeks, we ought to know which of these is the correct interpretation.</p><p><strong>[Update:</strong> Yeah, well, we found out.]</p> <br/><br/>Get full access to Symposium at <a href="https://symposium.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">symposium.substack.com/subscribe</a>]]></description><link>https://symposium.substack.com/p/playing-hockey-with-vladimir-putin</link><guid isPermaLink="false">substack:post:48756384</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Tracinski]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 14 Feb 2022 20:54:09 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/48756384/b89b0cbc4e3093ceeb98706ea46aa7d1.mp3" length="33333333" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Robert Tracinski</itunes:author><itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>2972</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://substackcdn.com/feed/podcast/165912/post/48756384/eb7c948393305fb1a567b7575932ed56.jpg"/></item><item><title><![CDATA[How Archie Bunker Explains the World]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Rob Tracinski talks to Tom Nichols, professor at the US Naval War College and author of <a target="_blank" href="https://amzn.to/3A2s5fi"><em>Our Own Worst Enemy: The Assault from within on Modern Democracy</em></a>, about authoritarianism, Italian villages, enlightened self-interest, and how Archie Bunker explains the world.</p><p>You can also watch it on video here:</p> <br/><br/>Get full access to Symposium at <a href="https://symposium.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">symposium.substack.com/subscribe</a>]]></description><link>https://symposium.substack.com/p/how-archie-bunker-explains-the-world</link><guid isPermaLink="false">substack:post:42013229</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Tracinski]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 01 Oct 2021 17:16:21 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/42013229/ec040f9c67fb82cb21bd666ce878d857.mp3" length="33333333" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Robert Tracinski</itunes:author><itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>4084</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://substackcdn.com/feed/podcast/165912/post/42013229/b6e926555803bd1aa8ef5231a15bda78.jpg"/></item><item><title><![CDATA[The Authoritarian "Demonstration Effect"]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Rob Tracinski talks to Shikha Dalmia, visiting fellow with the Mercatus Center’s Program on Pluralism and Civil Exchange and editor of <a target="_blank" href="https://theunpopulist.substack.com">The Unpopulist</a>, about the development of authoritarian “best practices” and the process by which they are being imported to the US.</p> <br/><br/>Get full access to Symposium at <a href="https://symposium.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">symposium.substack.com/subscribe</a>]]></description><link>https://symposium.substack.com/p/the-authoritarian-demonstration-effect</link><guid isPermaLink="false">substack:post:41629325</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Tracinski]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 23 Sep 2021 13:13:07 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/41629325/ac4ac0e52fc73e4dfa388b5d62cbbfdb.mp3" length="33333333" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Robert Tracinski</itunes:author><itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>3920</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://substackcdn.com/feed/podcast/165912/post/41629325/9bf2ee3cb516fef9fdaae093fd8409e5.jpg"/></item><item><title><![CDATA[The Truth About Hungary]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Rob Tracinski talks to Dalibor Rohac, Senior Fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, about Hungary’s “new hybrid system” of authoritarianism—and American conservatives’ infatuation with it.</p><p>You can also watch it on video here:</p> <br/><br/>Get full access to Symposium at <a href="https://symposium.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">symposium.substack.com/subscribe</a>]]></description><link>https://symposium.substack.com/p/the-truth-about-hungary</link><guid isPermaLink="false">substack:post:41263329</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Tracinski]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 14 Sep 2021 13:46:32 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/41263329/2795a4c2d93a637c15e01a662d21ca48.mp3" length="33333333" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Robert Tracinski</itunes:author><itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>3269</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://substackcdn.com/feed/podcast/165912/post/41263329/1852c9e392865d079bde850177545255.jpg"/></item><item><title><![CDATA[Erec Smith on "Free Black Thought"]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Rob Tracinski talks to Erec Smith, co-founder of the <a target="_blank" href="https://freeblackthought.substack.com">Journal of Free Black Thought</a>, about the diversity of ideas among black intellectuals and the need for a classical liberal vision on race.</p><p>You can also watch it on video here:</p> <br/><br/>Get full access to Symposium at <a href="https://symposium.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">symposium.substack.com/subscribe</a>]]></description><link>https://symposium.substack.com/p/erec-smith-on-free-black-thought</link><guid isPermaLink="false">substack:post:40892171</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Tracinski]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2021 15:00:47 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/40892171/0968d95e8b61da7d17d1a18c2b9c11be.mp3" length="33333333" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Robert Tracinski</itunes:author><itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>2343</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://substackcdn.com/feed/podcast/165912/post/40892171/22e3906675d7892714284a6ebf84a194.jpg"/></item><item><title><![CDATA[The Paradox of Authoritarian Populism]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Rob Tracinski talks to Tobias Cremer, a research fellow at Oxford University, about his investigations of authoritarian populism in Europe and the United States.</p><p>You can also watch it on video here:</p> <br/><br/>Get full access to Symposium at <a href="https://symposium.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">symposium.substack.com/subscribe</a>]]></description><link>https://symposium.substack.com/p/the-paradox-of-authoritarian-populism</link><guid isPermaLink="false">substack:post:39560309</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Tracinski]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2021 19:17:31 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/39560309/34c9de6158c5cbc69759f7448867e1d5.mp3" length="33333333" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Robert Tracinski</itunes:author><itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>3532</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://substackcdn.com/feed/podcast/165912/post/39560309/cae33f954499a45e70e394117f3bb49f.jpg"/></item><item><title><![CDATA[Jonathan Rauch on the Constitution of Knowledge]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Rob Tracinski talks to Jonathan Rauch of the Brookings Institution about his new book <a target="_blank" href="https://www.amazon.com/Constitution-Knowledge-Jonathan-Rauch/dp/0815738862"><em>The Constitution of Knowledge</em></a> and the principles of “epistemological Madisonianism.”</p><p>You can also watch it on video here:</p> <br/><br/>Get full access to Symposium at <a href="https://symposium.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">symposium.substack.com/subscribe</a>]]></description><link>https://symposium.substack.com/p/jonathan-rauch-on-the-constitution</link><guid isPermaLink="false">substack:post:37371305</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Tracinski]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2021 13:55:40 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/37371305/62aea3208b1cbd3bd98dd912052e06f5.mp3" length="33333333" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Robert Tracinski</itunes:author><itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>2596</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://substackcdn.com/feed/podcast/165912/post/37371305/58f1a32bb74ce84421084b60007c89af.jpg"/></item><item><title><![CDATA[What Is the "Culture of Free Speech"?]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>This is the first Symposium podcast where we get a group of our contributors together to talk out a big important issue—the first of many in this format.</p><p>To keep getting access to these discussions and to help make sure we can keep hosting more of them, please subscribe to Symposium.</p><p>In this podcast, I host a conversation with Symposium contributors <a target="_blank" href="https://symposium.substack.com/p/we-need-liberal-social-justice-not">Helen Pluckrose</a>, <a target="_blank" href="https://symposium.substack.com/p/does-liberalism-need-identity-politics">Cathy Young</a>, and <a target="_blank" href="https://symposium.substack.com/p/where-did-liberalism-go-wrong">Robert Garmong</a> on that elusive concept, the “culture of free speech”: the need for toleration and open debate, not just as a political or legal protection, but as a cultural norm. But what is the “culture of free speech,” how do we draw the line between ideas that are open for discussion and those that are beyond the pale, and why do we need this concept in the first place? Listen in as I talk these questions out with our contributors.</p><p>Oh, and I should mention that one of the benefits of subscribing is that you can add your own contribution to the discussion in the comments.</p><p>You can also watch it on video here:</p><p>And please share this with your friends.</p> <br/><br/>Get full access to Symposium at <a href="https://symposium.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">symposium.substack.com/subscribe</a>]]></description><link>https://symposium.substack.com/p/what-is-the-culture-of-free-speech</link><guid isPermaLink="false">substack:post:37054477</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Tracinski]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2021 14:19:54 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/37054477/0e912d3cbe915a18d47c65761fb9dd45.mp3" length="33333333" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Robert Tracinski</itunes:author><itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>3857</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://substackcdn.com/feed/podcast/165912/post/37054477/d26e42d9321f4e8fcd43bdd4c9ed31ff.jpg"/></item><item><title><![CDATA[Should We Be "Getting to Denmark"?]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Rob Tracinski talks to Samuel Hammond of the Niskanen Center about his case for a "free-market welfare state" and whether that is a contradiction in terms.</p><p>See his article on the free-market welfare state <a target="_blank" href="https://symposium.substack.com/p/the-case-for-a-free-market-welfare">here</a>, which includes some of the graphs we refer to in the podcast.</p><p>You can also watch it on video here:</p> <br/><br/>Get full access to Symposium at <a href="https://symposium.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">symposium.substack.com/subscribe</a>]]></description><link>https://symposium.substack.com/p/should-we-be-getting-to-denmark</link><guid isPermaLink="false">substack:post:36291043</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Tracinski]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2021 14:09:50 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/36291043/88da149b05fc5845ed00eee67fa6bfce.mp3" length="33333333" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Robert Tracinski</itunes:author><itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>3153</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://substackcdn.com/feed/podcast/165912/post/36291043/521f4f102d694f9fd337d53930dcb223.jpg"/></item><item><title><![CDATA[Learning from History on Free Speech]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Rob Tracinski talks to Paul Matzko of the Cato Institute about the history of the Fairness Doctrine, the lessons to be learned for debates over free speech and the Internet today, and how we always seem to be having the same debates over and over again.</p><p>You can also watch it on video here: </p> <br/><br/>Get full access to Symposium at <a href="https://symposium.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">symposium.substack.com/subscribe</a>]]></description><link>https://symposium.substack.com/p/learning-from-history-on-free-speech</link><guid isPermaLink="false">substack:post:35817744</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Tracinski]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2021 17:08:41 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/35817744/8d1a4baacd4a85f7f61876318042874b.mp3" length="33333333" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Robert Tracinski</itunes:author><itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>2851</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://substackcdn.com/feed/podcast/165912/post/35817744/51cc2f93f79079bac314e5e34fe39894.jpg"/></item><item><title><![CDATA[Why We Need Cosmopolitan Globalists]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Rob Tracinski talks to Claire Berlinski and Vivek Kelkar of <a target="_blank" href="https://claireberlinski.substack.com">The Cosmopolitan Globalist</a> about why American needs cosmopolitan globalists, the worldwide challenge of authoritarian nationalism, and the creation of new institutions to defend “liberal democracy.”</p> <br/><br/>Get full access to Symposium at <a href="https://symposium.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">symposium.substack.com/subscribe</a>]]></description><link>https://symposium.substack.com/p/why-we-need-cosmopolitan-globalists</link><guid isPermaLink="false">substack:post:35381662</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Tracinski]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2021 14:39:28 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/35381662/f202064b7fe8ddf49b652b3649231068.mp3" length="33333333" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Robert Tracinski</itunes:author><itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>2874</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://substackcdn.com/feed/podcast/165912/post/35381662/880035721da36c6080d1f00d1c5137d8.jpg"/></item><item><title><![CDATA[George Will and Steven Pinker on Liberalism]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Rob Tracinski brings together George Will and Steven Pinker for a conversation about the nature and foundations of political liberalism.</p><p>You can also watch it on video here:</p> <br/><br/>Get full access to Symposium at <a href="https://symposium.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">symposium.substack.com/subscribe</a>]]></description><link>https://symposium.substack.com/p/pinker-will</link><guid isPermaLink="false">substack:post:35118754</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Tracinski]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2021 20:38:11 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/35118754/e4b63a800620be8fff938c073ecc80f1.mp3" length="33333333" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Robert Tracinski</itunes:author><itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>2310</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://substackcdn.com/feed/podcast/165912/post/35118754/5bc9b88f27f61b971a364f721229de9b.jpg"/></item></channel></rss>