we're giving you a peak into all of the ways this episode might've gone, how it came together in the end, and telling you why danielle was on the phone with an award-winning author who turned us down in the grocery store.

the full episode, with the audio issue in the first segment of the conversation is here: https://www.youtube.com/live/TrtcnA-boSw?si=E8S5OxAnlZ2dkXgh

it's the post show. with the jarrett hill, danielle decourcey, and jessica bell.